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Terrorism in Wichita
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/2/9 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 06/02/2009 8:01:29 AM PDT by SmithL

If law enforcement officials believe they can prove that Scott Roeder is guilty of Sunday's shooting death of abortion doctor George Tiller at the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, Kan., then they should work to put him away for life. Roeder is being held on first-degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault.

In killing Tiller, the gunman did more than commit one violent act that ended a man's life. The slaying also served to intimidate abortion providers - and perhaps chase some professionals out of the practice altogether. Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.

Boulder, Colo., abortion doctor Warren Hern called the killing "a political assassination in a historic pattern of anti-abortion political violence. It was terrorism," according to the Associated Press.

Unfortunately, the National Right to Life Committee issued a statement that lacked Hern's clarity and outrage. The statement extended sympathy to Tiller's family, then condemned "any such acts of violence regardless of motivation. The pro-life movement works to protect the right to life and increase respect for human life. The unlawful use of violence is directly contrary to that goal."

I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places.

And it doesn't help when Randall Terry, an anti-abortion activist, tells reporters, "George Tiller was a mass murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama administration will use Tiller's killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: murder; tiller; wichita
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Debra is exactly right.
1 posted on 06/02/2009 8:01:29 AM PDT by SmithL
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The timing could not be worse for the anti-abortion movement. Just last month, the Gallup Poll reported that 51 percent of Americans now call themselves pro-life rather than pro-choice on the issue of abortion.
People who are really Pro-Life do not commit or condone murder. Worse still, is that this murder will hurt the Pro-Life movement.
2 posted on 06/02/2009 8:03:07 AM PDT by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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Terrorism?

I guess this means we can say at least one act of terrorism happened in the USA under 0bama's watch.

3 posted on 06/02/2009 8:03:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SmithL

When the abortionist was alive, he should have been given the death penalty for participating in the killing of the 50 million unborn that this country has condoned. And that death sentence, should have been carried out by the “state” (not individuals) in having laws that outlaw the killing of the unborn.

And in addition, the guy who did the shooting, should also be given the death penalty, likewise by the state, for participating in the long-standing practice of murder, which God has condemned, just like abortion, from the beginning.


4 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SmithL
Suspect pleads not guilty in soldier's death By NOAH TRISTER [AP]A Muslim convert accused of killing a soldier in a "political and religious" attack on a military recruiting center pleaded not guilty Tuesday to a capital murder charge and was ordered held without bail.

What's Deb got to say about that?

5 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:40 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass armed resistance.)
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To: SmithL

“Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.”

These being the same people who celebrate every bomb blast in Tel Aviv ....


6 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:54 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: SmithL
She may be right. But there has been far too much ink spilt on this low lifer and far too little spilt on William Long who also suffered a violent, politcally motivated death at about the same time as Tiller.
7 posted on 06/02/2009 8:05:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: pnh102
I guess this means we can say at least one act of terrorism happened in the USA under 0bama's watch.

...so this would be a domestic contingency operation?
8 posted on 06/02/2009 8:06:11 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: pnh102
I guess this means we can say at least one act of terrorism happened in the USA under 0bama's watch.

LOL. San Francisco Chronicle hoist by their own petard.

9 posted on 06/02/2009 8:06:27 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 134 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: SmithL

Randall Terry has been shooting people?


10 posted on 06/02/2009 8:07:16 AM PDT by kenth
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To: SmithL
And it doesn't help when Randall Terry, an anti-abortion activist, tells reporters, "George Tiller was a mass murderer.

What's wrong with that statement? I guess, since the law doesn't see fit to define "shredding a live baby with a dull knife" as "murder" then technically, Tiller was not a "murderer". Technically.

He was, undeniably, by his own proud assertion, a serial killer. And no possible justification exists for any of his killings. We should NOT hesitate to name him or his comrades in baby-killing as the cowardly serial killers that they are.

11 posted on 06/02/2009 8:08:22 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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“Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.”

Thus by use of the Supreme Court, liberal fascists achieved that which they could not achieve through the democratic political process.

12 posted on 06/02/2009 8:09:28 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Liberal fascism is a hate crime we can no longer tolerate)
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To: SmithL
The terrorism was committed by Tiller. Tens of thousands of butcherd, litrally butchered, bloody children under the color of law (sort of like Nazi Germany, eh?)

What the killer did was clearly illegal...but we may one day look back and see that these people, like John Brown, who also committd a crime and was put to death for it, were nonetheless on the right side of history.

Perhaps we need to stop worrying as much about public opinion, and start forthightly worrying more about what is right...and forthrightly expose abortion for the abject genocide it is, with no room for tolernce.

THE GRUESOME TRUTH OF THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST & THE DEATH OF DR. TILLER [Warning: A graphic photo of death & dismemberment]

“It is the grimmest of ironies that one of the most savage, barbaric acts of evil in history began in one of the most modernized societies of its time, where so many markers of human progress became tools of human depravity: science that can heal, used to kill; education that can enlighten, used to rationalize away basic moral impulses; the bureaucracy that sustains modern life, used as the machinery of mass death, a ruthless, chillingly efficient system where many were responsible for the killing, but few got actual blood on their hands.”–Barack Obama April 24, 2009, Holocaust Remebernce Day, Chicago Sun Times.

13 posted on 06/02/2009 8:09:32 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: mgc1122
could not achieve through the democratic political process

That process was so corrupted that Roeder probably just gave up on it. If Roeder hadn't done this, someone else eventually would have, as the non-violent means of addressing this wrong were all corrupted to the point of not being available.

14 posted on 06/02/2009 8:10:44 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: mgc1122

I haven’t been following Tiller, but does his death mean that one or more babies will not be aborted?


15 posted on 06/02/2009 8:11:00 AM PDT by balls
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To: SmithL

Right about what? Her column is muddle . . . and I’m being kind with that label.

She critiques the National Right to Life Committee for their statement, but their statement is in agreement with her. How lame is that?


16 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: SmithL
No, I believe Ms. Saunders is dead wrong in some respects. To wit:

I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places.

How does the immediately condemned act of one individual reflect poorly - or at all - on the moral argument prsented by those that condemned the murder? The Unabomber was not deemed to have undermined the argument of environmentalists - he was labeled as a loony.

Guilt by association is dead wrong.

17 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:38 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Star Traveler

The former governor Sillyass of Kansas who now works for Bama was a supporter of Tiller.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:42 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: SmithL

I have a question.....Tiller was shot in a Church....why aren’t they protecting Churches?


19 posted on 06/02/2009 8:13:51 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: gorilla_warrior

Exactly so. If one wants to look for a root cause of this ongoing turmoil and division, look to the Supreme Court and the failure of the U.S Senate to do its constitutionally-mandated job.


20 posted on 06/02/2009 8:14:15 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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