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Recollections of a Taxi Cab Ride with Abortionist George Tiller
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/2/09 | LifeSiteNews

Posted on 06/02/2009 12:11:02 PM PDT by wagglebee

June 1, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Joe Scheidler, the founder of Pro-Life Action League and longtime pro-life activist, today issued a statement denouncing the slaying of Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller. Tiller was shot dead Sunday morning as he was serving as an usher at his church.

In condemning the murder Scheidler also recalled a chance encounter he had with the abortionist, in which he shared a taxi-cab ride with him on the way to a pro-abortion conference.

“We deplore the killing of George Tiller on Sunday morning," said Scheidler.

"It has always been my philosophy that we convert abortionists. As activists committed to saving lives, we vigorously oppose violence."

Scheidler recalled how he once shared a taxi with Dr. Tiller as both were headed from the airport in New Orleans to the National Abortion Federation Convention. Scheidler was attending in order to gather information about the pro-abortion movement.

"Tiller apparently recognized me, but did not recall that I was a pro-life activist. He assumed I was another abortionist attending the conference," said Scheidler. "He enthusiastically extolled the value of the ultrasound in performing abortions, and invited me to visit his clinic in Wichita."

The following day Scheidler attended Tiller's presentation on the use of ultrasound. By then the doctor had realized that Scheidler was a pro-life leader, and refused to proceed with his presentation until Scheidler left the room.

"Having sat and talked with George Tiller, I probably feel a little more connection with him than many other pro-lifers might," said Scheidler. "I am adamantly opposed to what he did for a living. But I believe that anyone can come to the truth. Tiller deserved the chance to turn away from the evil of abortion. I cannot condone the taking of his life."


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"He enthusiastically extolled the value of the ultrasound in performing abortions, and invited me to visit his clinic in Wichita."

Tiller was a repulsive monster.

1 posted on 06/02/2009 12:11:03 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/02/2009 12:11:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/02/2009 12:12:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
THE GRUESOME TRUTH OF THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST & THE DEATH OF DR. TILLER [Warning: A graphic photo of death & dismemberment]
“It is the grimmest of ironies that one of the most savage, barbaric acts of evil in history began in one of the most modernized societies of its time, where so many markers of human progress became tools of human depravity: science that can heal, used to kill; education that can enlighten, used to rationalize away basic moral impulses; the bureaucracy that sustains modern life, used as the machinery of mass death, a ruthless, chillingly efficient system where many were responsible for the killing, but few got actual blood on their hands.”–Barack Obama April 24, 2009, Holocaust Remebernce Day, Chicago Sun Times.

4 posted on 06/02/2009 12:12:49 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: wagglebee
Tiller was a repulsive monster.

And so was his murderer.

5 posted on 06/02/2009 12:13:31 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: wagglebee

Tiller is truly a sinner in the hands of an Angry God.


6 posted on 06/02/2009 12:13:38 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Jeff Head

Much better Jeff.


7 posted on 06/02/2009 12:14:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: wagglebee
Tiller deserved the chance to turn away from the evil of abortion

He had plenty. He was "taken" because there was no possibility that he would repent.

8 posted on 06/02/2009 12:14:29 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: wagglebee
He enthusiastically extolled the value of the ultrasound

He is now enjoying ultraheat.

9 posted on 06/02/2009 12:14:49 PM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: Jeff Head

The irony of Zero’s words in that quote is chilling.


10 posted on 06/02/2009 12:17:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Tiller deserved the chance to turn away from the evil of abortion. I cannot condone the taking of his life.

I agree with this statement. Remember that it was an early pioneer--also someone once considered to be a monster--Bernard Nathanson, who was himself responsible for 75,000 abortions, who saw the light and repented his ways, becoming a strong pro-life advocate. Many abortionists have also found Christ and come to the other side. Violence is not the way. Truth is.

11 posted on 06/02/2009 12:19:31 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: wagglebee

Thanks.


12 posted on 06/02/2009 12:19:52 PM PDT by AliVeritas (I wake up, the evil one cries.)
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To: wagglebee

A repulsive monster who had a lifetime of opportunities to turn from the evil that he did. He chose not to, wouldn’t want to be him right about now.


13 posted on 06/02/2009 12:20:02 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: wagglebee
Joe Scheidler, the founder of Pro-Life Action League and longtime pro-life activist, today issued a statement denouncing the slaying of Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller. Tiller was shot dead Sunday morning as he was serving as an usher at his church....“We deplore the killing of George Tiller on Sunday morning," said Scheidler. "It has always been my philosophy that we convert abortionists. As activists committed to saving lives, we vigorously oppose violence."

Joe Scheidler PING!


14 posted on 06/02/2009 12:20:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: FreepShop1
Violence is not the way. Truth is.

All this violence did was to strengthen the hand of the abortionists.

15 posted on 06/02/2009 12:21:28 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: Jeff Head

Obama irony mark


16 posted on 06/02/2009 12:21:53 PM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: MrB

That’s really God’s call, not the murderer’s.


17 posted on 06/02/2009 12:22:02 PM PDT by twigs
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I read recently of a militia group who resisted government agents when they came to confiscate certain high powered weaponry that this militia had hidden on their premises.

In the insuing fight, several government agents were killed and wounded.

Also, several of the militia were killed.

Would you consider those militia, defending their belief in the right to keep and bear arms, murdering monsters?

18 posted on 06/02/2009 12:23:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: wagglebee

Unbelievably chilling...and unblievably accurate and condeming of the very thing he supports.


19 posted on 06/02/2009 12:24:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SoConPubbie

But he was in church!


20 posted on 06/02/2009 12:24:11 PM PDT by rjones42
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To: wagglebee

Scheidler is way too kind. Tiller had 67 years in which to “come to the light” and stop the killing.

I’m just glad he didn’t have 77 or 87 years to crush the skulls of living breathing children.


21 posted on 06/02/2009 12:24:20 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: Jeff Head

EXCELLENT. Well stated Jeff. Yes, indeed, WHEN and where will the line be drawn? What does it say of us as a nation, a “Christian” nation and who’s kidding who?? Obviously, we are kidding ourselves, we are self-deceived.

God is NOT mocked and there will be retribution upon this nation, it may be beginning now. We are deserving of nothing but eradication if we, as a nation, do not protect our unborn, partial born, infirm, the elderly, the list goes on and on and we have no excuse whatsoever.


22 posted on 06/02/2009 12:26:35 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
And so was his murderer.

A murderer killed a mass murderer. Why should we care the mass murderer is dead even if we can't allow individuals to take the law into their own hands?

23 posted on 06/02/2009 12:27:09 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: wagglebee

Imagine being enthsiastic about a technology that enabled him to better “harpoon the whale” (abort-speak for plunging a needle into the beating heart of an unborn child.


24 posted on 06/02/2009 12:28:23 PM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: MrB

My Daddy used to say that “Sometimes God uses the wicked to destroy the wicked.” I think that was the case here.


25 posted on 06/02/2009 12:29:33 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Jeff Head

And what people need to recognize is that the ongoing American Holocaust is beyond anything Hitler could have even imagined. Never in their evil and twisted fantasies did Hitler, Eichmann, Himmler, Mengele, et al envision a day when people they considered “subhuman” would willingly bring their children to be killed.


26 posted on 06/02/2009 12:29:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MrB

I bet Tiller is Pro-Life now.


27 posted on 06/02/2009 12:30:06 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Vigilanteman

That happened all the time in the Bible.
Heck, God HAD to used flawed individuals to do His work,
because He only had one Son, and everyone else is wicked.


28 posted on 06/02/2009 12:31:04 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: brushcop
"...better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matt 18:6

Our nation has offened 50+ million such little ones.

29 posted on 06/02/2009 12:31:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MrB

You know, since Tiller met his Maker, I wondered if perhaps it was God’s will that Tiller was stopped.

When Tiller was going to be prosecuted for a mere 19 of the abortions that even abortionists cannot perform legally, I remember praying that Tiller would see the evil of abortion and repent.

Tiller had his whole life to change. Maybe the 60,000 babies he killed was evidence that he would never repent and stop the killing. Maybe God did send the man who killed Tiller (who is also now a murderer) to take Tiller out of the baby killing business.

They always say “It was God’s will” when something happens. Like when my young uncle was taken by cancer, others I know taken even younger, and recently an aunt taken suddenly in her sleep. We grieve, but know my loved ones were Christian and are absent from the body, but now present with The Lord. So is it not also possible that God took Tiller out of the game of free will on Earth, and decided Tiller’s will was to kill innocent human life and that it was time for God to judge him and send him to Hell?

I dunno, just something that came to mind on Sunday after the news of Tiller’s demise was made public. Perhaps the man who took Tiller out, was in a way, a soldier of God. A flawed man to be sure and now also a killer, but there is such a thing as a soldier of God, someone who God calls to do things.

I do not have my flame retardant underwear and bra on folks, so be kind in any remarks. It’s just a theory. I do believe fully in God. He is all powerful and can do anything. Why then is it not possible Tiller’s killing was a result of God’s will? Be kind. Just wanted to float this idea out there. I mean there were lots and lots of Chistian soldiers in the Bible, fighting for righteousness. Why should it be any different today?


30 posted on 06/02/2009 12:32:03 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: FreepShop1
Have you read the testimony of Kathy Sparks?
31 posted on 06/02/2009 12:32:19 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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But he was in church!

1 Corinthians 13:2 (Whole Chapter)
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
32 posted on 06/02/2009 12:33:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Jeff Head

Exactly right. Thank you for your invaluable research and dedication to the truth.


33 posted on 06/02/2009 12:34:04 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: wagglebee
"I cannot condone the taking of his life."

Neither can I. I would have preferred he were struck down with a massive heart attack or an aneurysm myself.
34 posted on 06/02/2009 12:34:32 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Hey, I’m with you. I believe God will give us many, many chances to repent before we’re allowed to leave this life.

Tiller used up his last chance, and was taken out of the picture before he killed any more innocents. God used a flawed, wicked, troubled person to do so.


35 posted on 06/02/2009 12:35:36 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Vigilanteman

That is a very wise Daddy. I’m writing that quote down. And I agree with that quote as it relates to this issue.


36 posted on 06/02/2009 12:36:37 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: MrB

Everyone may be wicked inasmuch as everyone is a sinner. But I think God is able to draw a distinction between a tight-fisted old fart like me who doesn’t tithe and a miserable wretch like Dr. Tiller who kills babies for profit.


37 posted on 06/02/2009 12:37:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Jeff Head
Would you consider those militia, defending their belief in the right to keep and bear arms, murdering monsters?

If they violated the laws of the United States, yes I do.

38 posted on 06/02/2009 12:41:44 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: wagglebee
Since you bring Hitler into this topic, I will pose this question.

If an assassin (French, British, Russian, American, etc) had killed Stalin or Hitler the 1940’s, how would we view the assassin?

Even without knowing how many innocent people would die at their orders?

39 posted on 06/02/2009 12:44:17 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: wagglebee
Tiller deserved the chance to turn away from the evil of abortion.

That's true . . . and he had the chance for many years. Sometimes God just has enough. It's not as if the man just started doing abortions.

40 posted on 06/02/2009 12:47:06 PM PDT by mancini
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To: wagglebee
Tiller was 67 years old. He had lots of time to repent, no hand wringing from me...he may have been a personable individual, but that didn't make him less evil..
41 posted on 06/02/2009 12:47:33 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Jeff Head
I read recently of a militia group who resisted government agents when they came to confiscate certain high powered weaponry that this militia had hidden on their premises. In the insuing fight, several government agents were killed and wounded. Also, several of the militia were killed.

Who were they, I would like to read the story.

42 posted on 06/02/2009 12:49:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: wagglebee

“He enthusiastically extolled the value of the ultrasound in performing abortions,”

I bet for an extra 20 bucks the mother got a souvenir album of her big adventure.


43 posted on 06/02/2009 12:49:25 PM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: MrB
The disciplined, non-violent arguments of pro-life people were winning the battle for the minds of Americans. A recent poll showed that, for the first time in recent history, most Americans opposed abortion on demand. The rash act of a demented man who killed Tiller has provided a free propaganda gift to the enemy, who is going to use this to suppress everyone who opposes them.

Our Christian forefathers in the Roman Empire faced incredible evil and did not strike back in violence. The same is true of the incredibly brave Christians who labor in Communist and Muslim countries today. Vengeance is the Lord's, not ours.

44 posted on 06/02/2009 12:49:32 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Ol' Sparky
Why should we care the mass murderer is dead even if we can't allow individuals to take the law into their own hands?

It's called the Rule of Law. I also find myself wondering about the children in the church service who witnessed the scene as blood flew everywhere, guts, brains, etc. Wonder did the murderer care about those children?

45 posted on 06/02/2009 12:50:39 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: hellbender
Vengeance is the Lord's, not ours.

And we can't know that He didn't use this option in taking Tiller's life.

46 posted on 06/02/2009 12:50:52 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

They have all of eternity to get to know each other.


47 posted on 06/02/2009 12:52:23 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: brushcop
God is NOT mocked and there will be retribution upon this nation, it may be beginning now. We are deserving of nothing but eradication if we, as a nation, do not protect our unborn, partial born, infirm, the elderly, the list goes on and on and we have no excuse whatsoever.

Government controlled health care will finish off the chronically ill and the elderly.
48 posted on 06/02/2009 12:52:32 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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To: MrB; Jeff Head; xzins; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; ex-Texan
He had plenty. He was "taken" because there was no possibility that he would repent.

And look what I just found:

Partial-Birth Abortionist Confesses He is "Going to Hell"

49 posted on 06/02/2009 12:53:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


50 posted on 06/02/2009 12:54:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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