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Neighbors hot about school AC units in Ithaca (school's air conditioning placement is "racist")
FingerLakes1.com Local Network ^ | June 3, 2009

Posted on 06/03/2009 8:55:28 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

The constant hum of the air conditioning units across the street could be heard clearly from Ralph Moss's home.

At a word, they were shut off. Sounds of talking neighbors rose through the silence.

"My front porch has become my haven, and my haven is threatened," Moss said, sitting on his porch on North Albany Street. "It's so much of a nuisance, I have to go inside and close my doors and windows to get some peace."

Moss has lived in the neighborhood facing the east entrance of Beverly J. Martin Elementary School on and off since 1982.

The newest addition to the neighborhood bothers him more than a little bit. Several air conditioner condenser units nestled in the shadow of BJM were installed a few weeks ago in a spot where Moss's neighbors were planning to plant a garden with students from the elementary school.

Residents of the block between Buffalo and Court streets say the condensers pose a safety risk for young children and show disrespect for two trees planted there in memory of Bob Navarro, a former principal of BJM, and Rashad Richardson, a seventh-grader killed in 2001. Richardson's tree is now within an enclosure surrounding the condensers....

Jeff Bercuvitz, Moss's next-door neighbor and liaison to BJM for the informal North Albany Neighborhood Association, said the buzz is evidence of an attitude in ICSD that is contrary to its own stated goals of equity and school-community partnership.

"I see some real classism and environmental racism here," Bercuvitz said. "Our assertion is that if the same concerns were raised by a rich, white CEO in Cayuga Heights ... the district would respond."

The street is a heterogeneous mix of backgrounds and ethnicities, Bercuvitz said, with white, black, Latino and Tibetan families living in a tight-knit neighborhood, where the average income is $30,000 or less.

Bercuvitz said for the most part the residents on North Albany have accepted that inconveniences are a part of life when you live next to a school - especially on the side with the bus drop-off. But, "we're not a service area for the school," he said.....

Board members said they hope to abate the sound rather than move the units to the roof, which would cost an estimated $100,000 and require new designs and submitting the plans to the state education department


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cityofevil; fakehatecrime; ithaca; pc
"I see some real classism and environmental racism here,...Our assertion is that if the same concerns were raised by a rich, white CEO in Cayuga Heights ... the district would respond."

Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 06/03/2009 8:55:29 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; TLBSHOW; ...
City of Evil bump:


2 posted on 06/03/2009 8:56:04 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“”I see some real classism and environmental racism here,” Bercuvitz said.”

I see the typical leftist bullsh** myself.


3 posted on 06/03/2009 9:01:15 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
environmental racism

holy smokes. hybrid "isms."

We're so progressive, even our "isms" have "isms."

4 posted on 06/03/2009 9:02:05 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

AC systems are racist .....crazy idgits !!!


5 posted on 06/03/2009 9:06:36 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: the invisib1e hand

This really reminds me of something that you’d see on “South Park” or “the Goode Family.” You have a school that is predominantly minority students and the liberals are trying to prevent the kids from having air conditioning...all in the name of OPPOSING racism.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 9:06:40 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“environmental racism” ??? There’s a new one.

As frustrating as California gets, I’m forever grateful that my Dad found his career HERE, instead of Ithica, where he was right before I was born.


7 posted on 06/03/2009 9:06:48 AM PDT by EggsAckley (There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Board members said they hope to abate the sound rather than move the units to the roof, which would cost an estimated $100,000 and require new designs and submitting the plans to the state education department

Stop enviromental racism! Put the units up on the roof. Raise their taxes. Make the young leftists in the making sweat until they do.

8 posted on 06/03/2009 9:07:01 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: mgc1122

Dude! Dey was disrespectin’ da tree! You don’ be disrespectin’ da tree, else dat tree be on yo’ ass wit’ a quickness!


9 posted on 06/03/2009 9:07:06 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"I see some real classism and environmental racism here," Bercuvitz said.

WTF is wrong with these people?? Pardon my language but for chrissake what in the hell is environmental racism??? These people must sit around all day and think of new things to be offended by and new terms to call them. I really am starting to HATE these people!

10 posted on 06/03/2009 9:07:23 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

There ain’t but one word in the dictionary that describes that level of stupid. That word is “liberal”.


11 posted on 06/03/2009 9:07:47 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Stuck. On. Stupid.


12 posted on 06/03/2009 9:08:13 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
...move the units to the roof, which would cost an estimated $100,000 and require new designs and submitting the plans to the state education department...

That's OK, Liberals LOVE paying more taxes and submitting government forms. They just love it!

13 posted on 06/03/2009 9:09:35 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
What the hell is ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM????????
14 posted on 06/03/2009 9:11:29 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: OCCASparky
"There ain’t but one word in the dictionary that describes that level of stupid. That word is “liberal”."

Bears constant repetition...

15 posted on 06/03/2009 9:15:18 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: pgkdan
what in the hell is environmental racism???

It's a Fashionable Liberal Concept. It refers to the allegedly deliberate choice to put polluting conditions in minority neighborhoods.

You would know this if you had cocktails with liberals more often.

;-)

16 posted on 06/03/2009 9:16:47 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
.. the condensers ... show disrespect for two trees planted there in memory of ...

Tell me again, in what country am I living??? You've got to be kidding me.

17 posted on 06/03/2009 9:17:27 AM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us - team #36120)
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To: HamiltonJay

See post 16.


18 posted on 06/03/2009 9:17:30 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: mgc1122

Of course he’d be whining about racism if the white kids got nice AC but the black school didn’t.


19 posted on 06/03/2009 9:19:45 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Environmentally Racist School!


20 posted on 06/03/2009 9:21:05 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: DemonDeac

“Of course he’d be whining about racism if the white kids got nice AC but the black school didn’t.”

LOL ... I think you’re also correct if you had only posted the first six words ... followed by a fill in the blank.


21 posted on 06/03/2009 9:21:14 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

New York State sunk a huge amount of tax money into school modernization and expansion projects under the Clinton administration as a “make work” project for their Union supporters. The offending air conditioners are therefore the work of your friendly local Democrat.


22 posted on 06/03/2009 9:24:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My front porch has become my haven, and my haven is threatened...

Some days...I think I work too hard...
23 posted on 06/03/2009 9:25:09 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: freespirited

Sorry, that’s not “environmental racism”, the reality is pollution occurs in “minority” neighborhoods because they generally are POOR neighborhoods, and poorer neighborhoods tend to be the neighborhoods close to industrial operations that produce polution... Which is why the property values are lower and poor people tend to live there.

Race has nothing to do with it.

Don’t like it? Get educated, and get better employment that lets you live in a nicer more expensive area, or go out and start your own business bust your butt and build it to a point where you can live elsewhere. Sorry but skin color has nothing to do with the fact that the neighborhood next to the industrial plant has higher pollution, its got higher pollution because its beside an industrial plant, and that’s why property values are lower and poorer people tend to live there.

Liberals lead with their emotions and then twist their intellect to justify their emotions instead of using their intellect to evaluate if their emotions are just to begin with.


24 posted on 06/03/2009 9:28:36 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Liberals lead with their emotions and then twist their intellect to justify their emotions instead of using their intellect to evaluate if their emotions are just to begin with.

Absolutely. They also live to make race an issue when it isnt, because that is how they get positive attention from the MSM. Nothing makes the MSM happier than racism charges.

They also conveniently ignore that middle and upper class folks have not escaped pollution. For ex, the air pollution in LA does not affect only poor people. And IIRC the Love Canal homeowners were middle class.

25 posted on 06/03/2009 9:38:51 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Oh, suck it up!

Summer only lasts two weeks in upstate New York anyway. If I lived next to a school and my “haven” was my porch, I’d be annoyed at those environmentally racist school buses disrespecting my ears with their constant diesel rattle twice a day. But since the buses that spew diesel fumes endangering tiny little children are accepted in Ithica, I think their priorities are out of whack to demand the cessation of harmless quiet little air conditioners.


26 posted on 06/03/2009 9:38:55 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

these people are all insane


27 posted on 06/03/2009 9:41:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now, NOW)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As of Memorial day weekend, when my oldest graduated from Cornell, I no longer have any family living in Ithaca—I was born there. I’ll miss much of the natural beauty of that place; Cornell is a national park setting in itself; and I’ll miss occasionally tweaking of noses of some of the ultra-libs there.


28 posted on 06/03/2009 9:43:08 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Only a select few have the power and the right to cry “racism” and have governments and administrations drop everything to rush to obey their demands.


29 posted on 06/03/2009 9:52:48 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism destroys the lives of those who believe most deeply in it)
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To: pgkdan
Pardon my language but for chrissake what in the hell is environmental racism???

It's a legitimate beef, actually. Guys like Bercuvitz are the ones who bear the consequences of NIMBY politics.

Environmentalism is all well and good unless and until it twists the knickers of the rich, white people who "control" the environmental movement.

Wind power, for example, is grand when it only affects poor folks in places where the environmentalists are unlikely to visit. But once you put up windmills in view of Ted Kennedy's house....

I think this guys complaint probably has much deeper roots (even if he hasn't given it much thought). Lots of things the left does, end up flowing down to the poorer segments of society. This one (about which his complaints are legitimate) would have been the last straw.

30 posted on 06/03/2009 9:53:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Air-conditioners, Mandrake ... childrens’ air-conditioners.


31 posted on 06/03/2009 9:57:42 AM PDT by tumblindice (Have you ever seen a communist sitting in front of an air-conditioner?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So, no AC for the precious little snowflakes, let em sweat.
It’s better for the environment./sarc


32 posted on 06/03/2009 10:03:50 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: pgkdan
I attended a public hearing from the Idaho Department of Transportation a couple years ago. They were soliciting public input on placement of new on/off ramps from I-15 to the City of Chubbuck. Associated with various placements was a matching set of surface street plans. While I was looking over a display, a young lady asked the presenter about "environmental justice". I half laughed, half gagged on the question. Later, I looked up the phrase on "Google". I found a fascinating website that detailed ethnic/economic distributions of neighborhoods, location of toxic waste sites around the city and a number of other interesting elements. There was also identification of the level of medical services available to the community. My area is labeled "under served". I can attest that finding a good doctor is difficult here. Ditto for access to services covered under my fairly expensive medical/dental insurance plan. That site would very much impact my choice of where to invest my real estate money in homes and businesses.
33 posted on 06/03/2009 10:07:13 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Wow.
I had to read this, just to see how air conditioner placement is racist. Let’s review why:

1. The air conditioners make a buzz noise. (As a former Ithaca resident, I will attest that it will only make the buzz noise in July and August.)

2. Apparently, the buzz noise is making porch sitting uncomfortable. Whereas the noise from the school busses every morning and the cars passing by on the busy intersecting streets are ok.

3. The buzz noise is disrespectful to trees (which do not have ears).

4. Someone is making a complaint (the article doesn’t specify if any formal complaints were made or if the resident is simply whinning to a third-rate newspaper). The complainer claims that rich people (in Cayuga Heights??) get better resolution of complaints because they are rich and white.

5. Therefore the air conditioner placement is racist.

I see.


34 posted on 06/03/2009 10:12:50 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: r9etb

You are right, and he is right. I guarantee they wouldn’t offend the CEO because he does have power, clout. But, did they consult the guy whose front porch was going to face these AC units?

It is sad that those that bear the brunt of all of the environmental requirements are the ones supposed to be helped by it, :-(.


35 posted on 06/03/2009 10:19:41 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

These people are mentally ill.


36 posted on 06/03/2009 10:21:57 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: bamahead; Gabz; sickoflibs; Slings and Arrows

ping


37 posted on 06/03/2009 10:28:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: HamiltonJay
"Get educated, and get better employment"

No, Dat B actin' Asian.

38 posted on 06/03/2009 10:49:51 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

thanks, bfl


39 posted on 06/03/2009 11:04:51 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Complete, fabricated lie.

As is the compeltely false “concern” about safety for the children from an AC condensor. The complainers WANT to stir up (racial, income, envirnmental hatred and discontent - THAT is their life, what they have been taught since their first days in (government) oreschool and day care.


40 posted on 06/03/2009 11:05:53 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Look. I don’t disagree their approach is wrong using racism and environmentalism. But, if I had lived 20+ years in my home, and the GOVERNMENT decides to take some action that is going to make my quality of life (pursuit of happiness) reduce, I would be mad. At least let me have the opportunity to decide if I want to live there under the circumstances before you make the modifications.

But you cannot argue the fact that the poster I was responding to before. The left (Ted Kennedy) is trying to cripple this country by reducing its ability to use fossil fuels, etc., and demanding we adopt unproven green energy, such as wind energy. YET, when the opportunity to install windmills in Ted’s backyard arose, he used his power to prevent it. Those that the environmental left claim they are trying to protect are the ones that bear the brunt of the negative impact of those changes.


41 posted on 06/03/2009 11:13:54 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Air conditioning in Ithaca, New York? What the hell is going on? Talk about a waste of money. Open a window; turn on a fan.


42 posted on 06/03/2009 12:27:44 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Simple ... Turn the AC ... OFF!! and Send all complaints to Mr. Moss’s home.

Damn I wish I could move... but ... NY’s Taxes already have me at the point ...

“NY ...Can’t afford to Live Here, Can’t afford to LEAVE!!!”


43 posted on 06/03/2009 1:21:43 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: kidd

**5. Therefore the air conditioner placement is racist.
I see.**

ONLY in Ithaca would these five points make sense!!


44 posted on 06/03/2009 1:26:20 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: gwilhelm56
“NY ...Can’t afford to Live Here, Can’t afford to LEAVE!!!”

please don't die because they will tax that too...

45 posted on 06/03/2009 1:34:02 PM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
ummm, there's NO SCHOOL in Cayuga Heights...
46 posted on 06/03/2009 2:42:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; ...
Predictably, once the race card got played, the school board caved and will spend $100,000 to move the A/C units...while admitting that they don't know if this will even solve the noise problem

"I will vote for this, but I think it needs to be clear that we don't know for certain that this will solve the problem," said board member Deb O'Connor. "We don't know that the sound from non-sound-abated condensers on the roof will be any less than if they were on the ground and we did mitigation. It's a gamble. It's a good faith effort."

Ithaca is the City of Evil.


47 posted on 06/24/2009 6:14:19 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I love this comment: Let's hope the Board picks a knowledgeable contractor and not some good ol' boyz straight out of Newfield barfight to complete this endevor.
48 posted on 06/24/2009 6:32:40 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
if the same concerns were raised by a rich, white CEO in Cayuga Heights

I don't think their are any of those types in Ithaca any more much less the state.

49 posted on 06/24/2009 8:47:38 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Oh, I thought perhaps they were only air conditioning the white students, and leaving the minorities to swelter in their sweatshop classrooms.


50 posted on 06/25/2009 4:33:18 PM PDT by ntnychik
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