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June 4, 1989: Massacre in Tiananmen Square
BBC ^ | June 4 | BBC

Posted on 06/03/2009 10:24:52 AM PDT by Jess Kitting

Several hundred civilians have been shot dead by the Chinese army during a bloody military operation to crush a democratic protest in Peking's (Beijing) Tiananmen Square.

Tanks rumbled through the capital's streets late on 3 June as the army moved into the square from several directions, randomly firing on unarmed protesters.

The injured were rushed to hospital on bicycle rickshaws by frantic residents shocked by the army's sudden and extreme response to the peaceful mass protest.

Demonstrators, mainly students, had occupied the square for seven weeks, refusing to move until their demands for democratic reform were met.

The protests began with a march by students in memory of former party leader Hu Yaobang, who had died a week before.

But as the days passed, millions of people from all walks of life joined in, angered by widespread corruption and calling for democracy.

Tonight's military offensive came after several failed attempts to persuade the protesters to leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: anniversary; antifreespeech; china; communism; communisttyranny; massacre; redchina; tiananmen; tiananmensquare; tyranny
Twenty years ago today.

Never forget!

1 posted on 06/03/2009 10:24:52 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

May God bless the Chinese patriots who paid the ultimate price in standing up to communist tyranny!


2 posted on 06/03/2009 10:26:56 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Jess Kitting

3 posted on 06/03/2009 10:27:11 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: Jess Kitting

Thanks to zer0, next time those seeking freedom will be run down by Hummers.


4 posted on 06/03/2009 10:29:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Baraq Hussein 0bama - Enemy of America!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
May God bless the Chinese patriots who paid the ultimate price in standing up to communist tyranny!

And God help us build and maintain COURAGE if history should repeat itself in some other square: Times Square, frinstance.

5 posted on 06/03/2009 10:31:16 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
May God bless the Chinese patriots who paid the ultimate price in standing up to communist tyranny!

Amen

6 posted on 06/03/2009 10:34:09 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: icwhatudo
Thanks for posting the picture.

Brings back memories.

7 posted on 06/03/2009 10:36:00 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting
military operation to crush a democratic protest

Keep this in mind when planning a march on Washington, folks. Remember the Bonus Army incident while you're at it.

8 posted on 06/03/2009 10:41:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Jess Kitting

When was Tomothy Geithner over there studying Chinese?


9 posted on 06/03/2009 10:42:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: icwhatudo

That photo still gets me every time.


10 posted on 06/03/2009 10:44:06 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jess Kitting
We were in Beijing Feb, 2008. Had a tour guide for two days. Must have been 25-30 years old. She took us through the square.

In the square, there was a statue of a student who spoke out against the government. The punch line is it was 70-80 years ago.

I asked her about any markers or signs about the demonstrations in 89. She said she never heard of it.

11 posted on 06/03/2009 10:52:42 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Jess Kitting
Little by little, Obama and his cronies have been taking control of everything in the U.S. (financial institutions, the automobile industry, health care, the list keeps growing.) They already control the unions, the media, public education, all our tax dollars . . .)

I shudder to see how quickly the transition to Socialism is taking place, and how most of the American people seem oblivious to it. We are on the road to tyranny, with an extreme Marxist in the driver's seat.

Our freedoms are being eroded away with almost every new law and executive order signed by "the King." How much longer must this power grab go on unchecked?

If Obama gets his way, the U.S. will be a "police state" before the year is over.

12 posted on 06/03/2009 11:14:06 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: antiRepublicrat

I actually was tuning into Radio Beijing’s shortwave English language broadcast when the announcer started out broadcasting that the crackdown was starting. An hour later Radio Beijing came back on, only this time they were back to reporting the Party Line.

I always wondered what was the fate of that brave announcer.


13 posted on 06/03/2009 11:18:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: nufsed

14 posted on 06/03/2009 11:19:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: Jess Kitting

I’ll never forget watching that on tv at age 12 and not being able to understand why these people were being massacred for wanting to be free.


15 posted on 06/03/2009 12:27:42 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: dfwgator

nufsed


16 posted on 06/03/2009 12:30:22 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Markos33; GSP.FAN; Salamander
And those who do not learn from history.....

(The key phrase in this article, IMNSHO, is unarmed protestors.)
17 posted on 06/03/2009 12:35:28 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: icwhatudo

almost 2 years ago i stood in tianamen square thinking about that guy and the inevitable massacre, and i was moved to tears by the knowledge of what had happened in the place where i was standing.


18 posted on 06/03/2009 1:57:53 PM PDT by madamemayhem (there are only two places in the world: over here and over there.)
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To: icwhatudo

Of course, in the Baltic States, the vehicles didn’t stop...they just crushed people.


19 posted on 06/04/2009 4:23:57 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: fishtank
When was Tomothy Geithner over there studying Chinese?

About as likely as a Bush being there doing business with the Chicoms. Neither the DEMs not the GOP have a good record on dealing with China. Both are more concerned about lining theirs or their family and friends pockets than dealing seriously with China. Bush Sr should have ended all ties with the Chicoms that day. Our nation would be much better off now had he only done so.

20 posted on 06/04/2009 4:32:15 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jess Kitting

I will never forget.

I was doing field work, huddled in the dark in the rain, listening to the signal coming across from Canada, hoping my batteries would last and praying against tyrrany.


21 posted on 06/04/2009 4:37:23 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: shibumi

The August 1991 coup attempt had armed and unarmed protestors, and there were 6 killed.

More important in that event was the ambivalence of the military in suppressing the protests. But they did drive over people, not just stop like the famous photo.


22 posted on 06/04/2009 4:40:50 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Can we assume that Hussein has already apologized to Chinese leaders for torturing them over the last 20 years by means of all those slanderous questions and comments.


23 posted on 06/04/2009 4:59:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Jess Kitting; All
From 2002, but very informative...

Here's a key excerpt:

" Hand-picked by their elders for their manifested zeal in keeping the Communist Party in power, the new leaders pledged to adhere to Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong thought and Deng Xiaoping theory for 'a long time to come'.

But, added new party chief Hu Jintao, the new leadership will also work hard to 'project a fine image of a party that advances with its times'...".

Communist Party goes modern
By Antoaneta Bezlova
Nov 16, 2002

BEIJING - China's Communist Party - the world's largest political movement, with 66 million members - has bid to cast off its harsh image as a revolutionary party committed to violent class struggle in favour of the more mellow image of a conventional ruling party.

At its week-long congress that ended on Friday, the Party redefined itself from the "revolutionary vanguard of the proletariat" to a representative party of the whole nation, embracing capitalists - the class enemies it loathed in the past - and electing a younger generation of leaders.

Hu Jintao, 59, an enigmatic party apparatchik who, under the outgoing party chief Jiang Zemin was deputy general secretary and vice president, heads the new party leadership.

The Politburo Standing Committee, China's highest ruling body, was expanded from seven to nine members, all men in their 50s and early 60s who are deeply committed to turning China into an aggressive, high-technology market economy.

Hand-picked by their elders for their manifested zeal in keeping the Communist Party in power, the new leaders pledged to adhere to Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong thought and Deng Xiaoping theory for "a long time to come".

But, added new party chief Hu Jintao, the new leadership will also work hard to "project a fine image of a party that advances with its times".

Although he is not ranked alongside the late paramount leaders Mao and Deng, whose ideas have already been enshrined in the party constitution, outgoing Communist Party chief Jiang is credited with fostering that "fine image" by introducing his "Theory of the Three Represents".

Jiang's theory means that the Party now formally welcomes not only workers, farmers, soldiers and intellectuals but also "any advanced element of other social strata", clearly referring to the emerging forces of private businessmen, professionals and other social elite.

The change in ideology was sealed on the last day of the congress, when more than 2,000 delegates voted in favor of changing the party constitution to accommodate Jiang's theory - a clear sign that the Chinese Communist Party finally sees itself as a party in power as opposed to a revolutionary party.

"A ruling party has different goals than a revolutionary party," said Wang Changjiang, a professor of party building at the Central Chinese Communist Party School. "A revolutionary party fights to seize power by violent means while a ruling party has to find the best way of using this power."

There are other differences too, argued Hu Wei, a political scientist at the Shanghai Jiaotong University. "Class enemies play an important role in the ideology of the revolutionary party, but almost none in the ideology of the ruling party. Quite opposite, a ruling party strives to emphasize harmony and cooperation between different classes of the country," Hu explained.

While some Chinese pundits are grappling to present the current transfer of power as a watershed for the Communist Party in the new century, other watchers are hunting for clues on whether the change in the leadership faces is anything more than just a generational change for the same old party. "As long as there is no political reform, there is no real political change," said one Western diplomat here.

It is uncertain whether the retiring generation of leaders will form a National Security Council - a secretive ruling council that could influence party decisions behind the scenes and may try to block any chance for genuine political reform.

Hu Jintao is not Jiang's candidate for successor, but had been selected by late paramount leader Deng Xiaoping to take over eventually. Jiang has actually been promoting his own protege, Zeng Qinghong, who emerged as No 5 in the new leadership lineup.

An earlier report by the influential International Institute for Strategic Studies in London asserted that the presence of Jiang's protege in the politburo would serve to circumvent Hu's rule. "China is therefore entering a period of heightened political instability," the think-tank said in its annual strategic survey.

To complicate the power-jockeying even further, Jiang has opted to retain his key position as chairman of the powerful Central Military Commission, a post that Deng Xiaoping held on to after he had given up his other formal titles.

Jiang remains as China's head of the state until March, when the National People's Congress or parliament meets to vote on government posts. Retiring with Jiang are five other elder leaders, including the hardliner Li Peng, much hated for his decision to dispatch tanks against the unarmed students in 1989 Tiananmen pro-democracy protests, and the no-nonsense premier Zhu Rongji, respected for his ambitious drive that finally brought China into the World Trade Organization last year.

In with the new leaders are mainly technocrats, bureaucrats and a few local party officials who have excelled in their respective provinces. Among them are Vice Premier Wu Bangguo, who emerged as No 2 and is expected to take over the chairmanship of the National People's Congress from Li Peng, and Vice Premier Wen Jiabao, third in line, who will probably take over the premiership from Zhu Rongji in March.

Little is known about the new party chief Hu, who has been at the peak of China's political power for 10 years but revealed few of his true political colors. An engineering graduate from the prestigious Qinghua University, he stayed on as a political instructor during the violent political clashes that took place there during the Cultural Revolution (1966-76) but fought against the radicals.

He served in poor Gansu province and troubled Tibet before being promoted to the party politburo in 1992. He was party secretary in Tibet in 1989 when soldiers opened fire on Tibetans protesting against Chinese rule. Hu became vice president in 1998 and was named Jiang's deputy chairman the next year on the Central Military Commission that controls the army.

Hu's rise is credited to his ability to keep a low profile and avoid political infighting behind the scenes. However, his ascendance to power means he will have to abandon his humble ways and grapple with some tough political choices in the next five years.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/DK16Ad02.html

24 posted on 06/04/2009 5:59:17 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jess Kitting; All
Russia and China have been holding joint war games every other year since 2005. The next one is scheduled for this summer...

[2009] Russia, China plan new joint military exercises

By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst
Published: March 26, 2009

WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- The continuing tensions over Russia's refusal to sell its state-of-the-art land warfare advanced weapons systems to China hasn't interrupted the rhythm of major joint military exercises between the two major land powers on the Eurasian landmass. The latest in the regular, biennial series of exercises between the two nations has been confirmed for this summer.

The next in the now well-established series of exercises called Peace Mission 2009 will be carried out in northeastern China, the Russian Defense Ministry announced March 18, according to a report carried by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The first bilateral Peace Mission maneuvers -- described at the time as counter-terrorism exercises -- were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005. As we reported at that time, they were a lot bigger than mere counter-terrorism exercises. Warships, squadrons of combat aircraft and more than 10,000 troops were involved carrying out landings against hypothetically hostile shores. The maneuvers also involved large-scale paratroops drops. The scale and nature of those exercises suggested a trial run for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan with Russian support. ..."

http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2009/03/26/Russia_China_plan_new_joint_military_exercises/UPI-25021238094858/
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

25 posted on 06/04/2009 6:00:29 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jess Kitting

“Twenty years ago today.
Never forget!”

Indeed. Especially as our own government moves more and more into a Beijing-like direction with each passing day.


26 posted on 06/04/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: icwhatudo

The guy standing in front of the Type 59 MBTs was Wang Wei, a 19 year old college student.

One guy vs. four tanks.


27 posted on 06/04/2009 7:02:56 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

was he run over by the tanks?


28 posted on 06/05/2009 4:12:19 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: Ancient Drive
No. Wang Wei* was not run over by the Type 59s. *This is a Chinese name, the family name is Wang. Actually, the lead Type 59 tried to go around Wang but he kept on stepping in front of it and staying there until the tank commander got badly P'd off.
29 posted on 06/07/2009 7:16:01 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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