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Will U.S. Jews Stand With Israel - Or Obama?
The Jewish Press ^ | 6/3/'09 | Jonathan Braun

Posted on 06/03/2009 1:43:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

American Jews overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama, the Candidate of Change, despite credible warnings and ample evidence that he would obsessively seek to create a Palestinian state at Israel's expense and "engage" nuclear-arming, Islamist Iran.

After four months of Change, Obama's support in the Jewish community seems rock solid. Besides, many Jews say, Obama's appointment of two Jews to key White House positions - Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff and David Axelrod as presidential senior adviser - proves Obama is OK for Israel. So what if the meeting with Netanyahu didn't go as well as first advertised? Bibi's a right-winger, anyway. Under Obama, there was a kosher Passover Seder in the White House. Progress! Hope! Change!

Hmm. The head-spinning, stomach-turning developments make this lifelong Jewish supporter of Israel think Hitler made two big blunders in his quest for world domination. He attacked the Soviet Union - and he did not invite American Jewish leaders to a catered kosher lunch in Berlin before the war.

Seriously. Had Hitler been able to hide his fanatical hatred of Jews for only a few hours, he might have been able to mobilize liberal American Jewish opinion in favor of a policy of appeasement toward Nazi Germany - perhaps, even, a formal pledge of non-interference in Germany's internal affairs.

Admittedly, a free kosher lunch might not have been enough to win over the so-called Jewish leaders. The Nazi madman probably would have had to appoint a Jewish adviser (on Jewish affairs, say) to accomplish his aim.

A high-level Jewish adviser - yes! That would have worked wonders for the Fuhrer. The Jewish leaders would have returned home to reassure their concerned fellow Jews and the American media that Hitler had no intention of starting a war, regardless of Germany's ominous rearmament and military buildup; that he was instead interested in forging a closer relationship between Germany and the United States, one that could possibly even lead to an alliance of some sort to preserve peace in Europe.

As for "the Jewish Problem," the American Jewish bigwigs would have said that while some Jews were indeed suffering in Germany, there really was room for progress - quietly, of course, behind the scenes. Quiet, patient, principled diplomacy - that's the ticket!

And so it would have gone. Dialogue and diplomacy are the answers, the Jewish leaders would have said; no sanctions, no big, public protests - they would only make matters worse for Germany's Jews and needlessly antagonize the Nazis. No talk of armed intervention or future conflict, heaven forbid.

The impact of their meeting with Herr Hitler and call for engagement and dialogue would have been instant (or what passed for instant in the time before television and the Internet). Overnight, the brave minority warning of a rising, imperialist threat across the ocean would have been marginalized -maybe forever. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, there could have been a crucial decision by the U.S. government to avoid or delay declaring war on Germany as well as Japan, perhaps accompanied by a presidential speech reminding the public of Germany's great contributions to Western civilization and culture and to the shaping of American society.

Though the anti-Semitic rabble - the foot soldiers in armbands and jackboots and white sheets - would have been appalled by Hitler's meeting with Jewish leaders, the Fuhrer's more sophisticated American supporters and sympathizers would have understood his diabolically clever move. Influential isolationists and fascists - the Pat Buchanans of that era - would have laughed all the way to the next America First or German American Bund (or Silver Shirts, or Black Legion, or Ku Klux Klan) rally.

The Roger Cohen of that day - there is always a Roger Cohen whenever and wherever Jewish communities are threatened with annihilation and persecution - would surely have written a series of articles for The New York Times about Jewish conditions in Germany being not so bad after all, despite the beatings and racial laws, the persecution and the humiliation, the incessant anti-Semitic propaganda. (In fact, the liberal Jewish columnist Walter Lippmann wrote approvingly of Hitler in the late 1920s, advising his readers that the Nazi leader would "moderate" his views upon achieving power.)

Obama is no Hitler. Obviously. God help us if that were the case. But Obama's policies and actions are giving new Hitlers - the leaders of Islamist Iran - time to develop nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles capable of destroying Israel and bringing America to its knees.

In other words, Obama's appeasement of Iran and betrayal of Israel is effectively helping to prepare the ground for a new Holocaust and a new world war.

And American Jews and Jewish organizations - seemingly slavishly bound to a Democratic Party with a left wing that now views the establishment of Israel as a mistake - are going along for the ride. American Jewish voters overwhelmingly chose Obama over John McCain, a proven friend of Israel, and they don't seem at all ready to jump ship. They are not even close to the exit ramp.

What will it take for American Jews to stand up and be counted? Would a call by Obama for a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem open their eyes? Probably not. In contrast with bible-believing Christians and observant Jews, liberal Jews are fashionably forsaking Israel's capital. Strong support for Israel is so yesterday ... so ... Bush/Cheney.

The time is fast approaching for American Jewry to decide between loyalty to a political party that bears no resemblance to that which their parents and grandparents adored for generations and their professed love of Israel whose security, along with the security of the United States, is being undermined by everything Obama is presently doing, has done, and plans to do.

With whom do you stand, American Jews - America and Israel or Obama and the Democratic Party?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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Excellent article. I'm glad to see it in The Jewish Press.
1 posted on 06/03/2009 1:43:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Alouette; SJackson; Yehuda; rmlew; Nachum; TorahTrueJew; NativeNewYorker; Ancesthntr; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 06/03/2009 1:45:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Obama. Many of the Jews here are self-hating, and don’t care about Israel.


3 posted on 06/03/2009 1:45:54 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I believe sadly that many maybe most American jews have sold their souls to the left and support the palestinians over Israel. Leftism is a horrifying self destructive cancer.

They came for the Jews and I did nothing because I was a liberal Jew.


4 posted on 06/03/2009 1:46:48 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Liberalism is their true religion.


5 posted on 06/03/2009 1:48:15 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (My new survival blog! www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Obama.

American Jews would light the ovens for Israeli Jews.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 1:48:48 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They will stand with Hussein first. These are liberals, not Jews. Their religion is an accident of birth, used to their advantage when necessary/possible.


7 posted on 06/03/2009 1:49:29 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

American Jews no longer care about Israel. They are liberal Democrats BEFORE they are supporters of Israel.


8 posted on 06/03/2009 1:50:27 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

JINO.


9 posted on 06/03/2009 1:50:36 PM PDT by gigster
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To: Zionist Conspirator

If the Jews don’t support Israel, why should we?

I believe that that country receives the biggest slice of our foreign aid. We need our money. Let the NY libs support the darned country.


10 posted on 06/03/2009 1:50:57 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The Jewish people were given great gifts and talents that have enabled them to excel many areas throughout history. Seems they were also significantly shorted on common sense, at least those outside Israel.


11 posted on 06/03/2009 1:51:36 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Obama - nuts, but true.


12 posted on 06/03/2009 1:51:47 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I have a friend, an Iraqi Jew, who doesn't think Israel should have been formed. THIS IS FROM A MAN WHO WAS THROW OUT OF THE COUNTRY HE WAS BORN IN!!! And he enthusiastically voted for Barry.
13 posted on 06/03/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Jews fear Jesus Christ more than a terrorist. That is why they cannot vote for the GOP because the Christian Coalition is part of its membership. A leveled headed Jew once screamed at another Jew who voted for Obama despite 9/11 - “the worst thing an Evangelical Christian can do is make you listen for ten minutes why Jesus is the Messiah and how it is up to you to accept him, while an Islamic terrorist will just walk up to you and kill you!!!” The Dem loving Jew wimpered - “ I cannot vote GOP because they mistreated my great uncle, the first in my family to become rich when he tried to become a member in the country club in the Poconos, they made my grandmother bow her head in public school and they prayed in the name of their false Messiah. I can not forgive them, never!!!, sob cry cry”.


14 posted on 06/03/2009 1:52:36 PM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: gigster

yep...


15 posted on 06/03/2009 1:53:07 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Whats’ really sad, to me, and somewhat ironic, is the fact that liberal, nay radical, Jews have had such a large part in making the Democratic Party what it is today.

He that sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.


16 posted on 06/03/2009 1:53:23 PM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
This is not the country of my birth. I never thought I would say this. I will not be with Obama.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 06/03/2009 1:53:44 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: GOPsterinMA

And of course many of the organizations they founded, and fund to this day, were created for the sole purpose of attacking the foundation and values of this country.


18 posted on 06/03/2009 1:54:00 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Fee
Jews fear Jesus Christ more than a terrorist.

Twaddle.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 06/03/2009 1:54:57 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This Jewish family stands with Israel.


20 posted on 06/03/2009 1:55:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Da Coyote
If the Jews don’t support Israel, why should we?

Because they are a democracy in the middle of all those dictators and petty monarchs, and they allow individual freedom for their people, and more contributions to science and technology come out of Israel than all the Muslim nations put together.

If the Muslims were ever leave them in peace, Israel would accomplish even more, and provide even more opportunities for the Muslims in that area.

21 posted on 06/03/2009 1:56:06 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Da Coyote
If the Jews don’t support Israel, why should we?

Because they keep the oil-rich Arabians honest without our having to maintain a "presence".

22 posted on 06/03/2009 1:56:06 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Boiling Pots

Like the ACLU?


23 posted on 06/03/2009 1:57:45 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Boiling Pots

Like the ACLU?


24 posted on 06/03/2009 1:57:48 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The same Jews who invested their life savings with Bernie Madoff have invested in B. Hussein al-Bama the existence of Israel. Fortunately, the Jews who actually live in Israel will have something to say about it.


25 posted on 06/03/2009 1:57:50 PM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: Fee
The Dem loving Jew wimpered - “ I cannot vote GOP because they mistreated my great uncle, the first in my family to become rich when he tried to become a member in the country club in the Poconos, they made my grandmother bow her head in public school and they prayed in the name of their false Messiah. I can not forgive them, never!!!, sob cry cry”.

Absolutely unbelievable. No sense of proportion whatsoever.

Don't you suppose the politicians who made Jewish public school students bow their heads might have been Democrats in at least some instances?

26 posted on 06/03/2009 1:58:25 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

That’s the first one that comes to mind.


27 posted on 06/03/2009 1:59:56 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Boiling Pots

Yep. Look at the names of the ACLU directors, lawyers, etc., not too many Irish ones.


28 posted on 06/03/2009 2:02:13 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
From The Great Schlep site...
“And what about all those terrified Jews who reportedly abandoned their progressive heritage to buy into the smears libeling Obama as an Israel-hating terrorist? Obama drew a larger percentage of Jews nationally (78) than Kerry had (74) and – mozel tov, Sarah Silverman! - won Florida.”

Frank Rich, New York Times

I hope and pray that many American Jews will now come to see that Obama actually is an Israel-hating terrorist.
29 posted on 06/03/2009 2:02:47 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Enough about me, let's talk about you...what do you think of me?")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Hitler made two big blunders in his quest for world domination. He attacked the Soviet Union - and he did not invite American Jewish leaders to a catered kosher lunch in Berlin before the war.

I wish all the foolish Obama Jews could hear this.

30 posted on 06/03/2009 2:03:04 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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The Obama=Hitler thus liberal Jews are dumbass' are always fun. Counterproductive, but we don't want those votes anyway.

31 posted on 06/03/2009 2:04:37 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think US Jews in general are more afraid of Christians than they are of islamic fascists and Barry. So to answer = Barry.


32 posted on 06/03/2009 2:04:57 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Yesterday, while switching from Fox News to CNN to see what they were doing. Campbell Brown had a debate between Alan Dershowitz (The Case for Israel) and Rabbi Michael Lerner (Left-wing Tikkun Magazine).

Lerner wants Obama to crack down on Israel and engage our enemies. It was a good debate and Dershowitz cleaned his clock.

33 posted on 06/03/2009 2:06:24 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Da Coyote

“I believe that that country receives the biggest slice of our foreign aid. We need our money. Let the NY libs support the darned country.”

What?


34 posted on 06/03/2009 2:07:53 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Climate change alarmists are Warm-Mongers. Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.)
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To: Da Coyote
If the Jews don’t support Israel, why should we?

You shouldn't, can't you think for yourself?

35 posted on 06/03/2009 2:08:43 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Most of the U.S. Jews voted for obama. That should be a clue to as to the answer.


36 posted on 06/03/2009 2:09:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Yesterday, while switching from Fox News to CNN to see what they were doing. Campbell Brown had a debate between Alan Dershowitz (The Case for Israel) and Rabbi Michael Lerner (Left-wing Tikkun Magazine).

Lerner wants Obama to crack down on Israel and engage our enemies. It was a good debate and Dershowitz cleaned his clock.

Unfortunately Dershowitz is a lib who thinks support of Israel is the "true radical position" and who believes Obama is Israel's friend (he campaigned for him, you know).

37 posted on 06/03/2009 2:19:38 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: SJackson
The Obama=Hitler thus liberal Jews are dumbass' are always fun. Counterproductive, but we don't want those votes anyway.

Take it up with the author (his e-mail addy is available at the source site).

38 posted on 06/03/2009 2:21:23 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Boiling Pots
I didn't know Roger Baldwin was Jewish.

Dang. You learn something new every day.

39 posted on 06/03/2009 2:22:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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To: Williams
Liberalism won't save the Jews here anymore than they were saved in Nazi Germany. Neither will the contributions they have made to Obama and the Democratic Party. Obama is showing his desire that this be a Muslim nation and there will be no room for Jews. That fact will sadly dawn on many too late when they face their own death.
40 posted on 06/03/2009 2:30:22 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: GOPsterinMA

If US Jews don’t care what happens to Israel, why should US goyim?


41 posted on 06/03/2009 2:30:47 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Will U.S. Jews Stand With Israel - Or Obama?

Maybe they could stand with the US.

42 posted on 06/03/2009 2:32:15 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This Jew and his family stand for Israel, without question or hesitation.

Pharaohbama is nothing, he is a nobody, a child, compared to those who have come against the Jews, like the Pharaohs, the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, Russian Czars and the Nazis. They are but dust, a stain on human history; the Jews are still here, and always will be (despite losses from massacres, forced conversions and intermarriage). These liberal Jews, the ones that have found a new Golden Calf in modern Liberalism and a false Moschiach in Pharaohbama, they, too will go by the wayside. Some will learn, and return to the morality of their fathers, the rest will cease to be Jews in a generation or two since they don’t care one whit about their heritage or anything traditional.


43 posted on 06/03/2009 2:33:54 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Da Coyote

Those who darn Israel shall be darned themselves. ;)


44 posted on 06/03/2009 2:35:20 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Romulus
Maybe they could stand with the US.

Maybe standing with Israel IS standing with the US. This country is NOT Obama, he's merely the President for another few years. The permanent interests of this country lie with Israel and its people, not our enemies in the Arab World. Opposing Obama is (IMHO) standing with the US.

45 posted on 06/03/2009 2:36:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Self-evident from the election numbers, U.S. Jews will stand with Obama. Not hard to figure out when you also consider that the vast majority of U.S. are liberal-oriented and against many of the Israel’s policies.


46 posted on 06/03/2009 2:40:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Most will stand with Obama.

Evangelical Christians seem to care more deeply about Israel’s survival than some Jewish voters. Hussein is not their friend.


48 posted on 06/03/2009 2:45:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

IMO Jews stand with Obama primarily because he stands against conservatism, which in the minds of many Jewish voters means right wing, which, alas, is equated with Nazism. Yes, I know Nazi means national socialism, but liberals, even “intelligent” Jewish liberals, don’t think things through that far.


49 posted on 06/03/2009 2:56:18 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: I Hate Obama

You’re a provacateur from DU, aren’t you?


50 posted on 06/03/2009 3:06:35 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vesamu 'et-shemi `al-Benei Yisra'el, va'Ani avarekhem.)
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