Posted on 06/03/2009 8:46:46 PM PDT by fortress
Air France 447 - Casting doubt on weather as culprit
And the debris they recovered isn't from AF447:
Debris found in Atlantic is NOT from jet say red-faced investigators...
So they got the weather conditions wrong and they misidentified the debris. They have nothing. Absolutely nothing. But they know it's not terrorism.
I feel like I've been transported back to the summer of 1996.
Because both are the same. Gee how could I POSSIBLY miss that one.
I find it odd that everybody has ruled out terrorism as a cause because some muzzie group hasn't gloated about it yet.
Terrorism isn't just a muzzie thing to begin with. There is a possibility of narco-terrorism, rebel factions in South America, eco-terrorism, industrial sabotage, etc. It may be terrorism, it may have been a mid air collision with another aircraft, it may have been a one in one trillion chance of a meteorite hitting it, could have been a fire, a chemical leak, who knows, and until conclusive evidence is presented, everything should be on the table.
Never said it didn't or couldn't. I just said I bet Airbus is sweating, which I would be doing too.
It's the sub-contractor who built the unit, or the Air France maintenance tech who pencil whipped the last test or calibration of the unit.
Thanks for the information.
Actually I know what shear is, I'm a Mechanical Engineer and am familiar with shear stress, which is essentially the same thing you described above as wind shear.
I asked the question about Hurricane shear rhetorically because the person I asked said there was no shear in Hurricanes...
So you’d like a better example? Glad you asked.
How about the coordinated bombings in Jaipur, India a year ago. Seven coordinated bombs within a twelve minute span — 80 killed, 150 injured. Going on thirteen months... still no claim of responsibility.
On the flip side, three calls of responsibility were made immediately after Pan Am 103 was bombed out of the sky. All three claims were bogus.
Investigating claims in one thing. Relying on them to determine whether or not there’s been a terror attack is a fool’s game.
Rely on the evidence. As of this moment, we have none. You’d have to oblivious to the world around you to rule out the possibility of terrorism before the evidence is in.
I remember the DC Sniper threads back in 2002. You heard the same kind of things... can't be terrorism... no claims of responsibilty... they're not targeting Jews... a terrorist wouldn't do this, a terrorist would do that. It was like Manhunter, everybody was in the mind of the terrorist, they knew what made him tick. And shooting people outside of arts & crafts stores wasn't it.
Turns out they were all wrong. It was a terrorist. A muslim terrorist. So much for all those FBI profiling careers.
Same thing here. These guys ruling out terrorism is just as foolish as if we were ruling out pilot error or natural disaster. This could be anything... we don't know. There's no basis to rule anything out unless you have some indication of what to rule in. Nobody has any indication of any cause. And their story's changing by the hour.
You mention narco-terrorists. One of my big concerns is that the islamists and the traffickers are going to join forces down there. Having Hizballah and Qaeda rubbing elbows with the traffickers and FARC in the Tri-Border region is bad, bad news.
I do not thik the investigators know what happened.
Actually, I did read the article. The have no signs that would back up any theory, hence, they cannot rule out any other theory. They have no idea. Or if they do, they’re not saying what it is.
The fact that they keep singling out terrorism as the one thing they have no evidence of, when they have no evidence of any other cause either, suggests they may be protesting too much.
We both agree. What is needed is to find a submersible to retrive the flight and voice data recorder. That will finally put an end to the speculations.
“If it’s not Boeing, I ain’t going.”
It’s still hard to beat a 747. I’ve been around the world on ‘em - even flown several thousand miles once on 3 engines. And what else has the beef to piggy back the Shuttle?
You forget how to read during your hiatus? I didn't claim any such thing. Stop acting like a troll and argue against points that were actually made.
Or don't. Either way doesn't make much difference to me.
ping for later
“And likewise, look at the thread and each and every one of you claiming it’s a Jihadist nightmare is doing the EXACT same thing. You know what happens when you ASSume right? Some terrorist plots are very obvious. Way to go for the obvious ones to make your point when you have NO evidence in this case that it was a bomb other than a “feeling”.”
Like you and the others should talk.
I for one, am keeping everything including TERRORISM on the table and as I stated before there are other forms of terorism that doesn’t include achmed the camel jockey blowing himself up.
Were there any Amish sightings out on those waters?
If the “plane” sent 3 minutes worth of distress signals automatically, it indicates that the plane was flying for 3 minutes after some kind of catastrophic failure.
Years ago there were heated discussions on this forum about the composite materials and structural design of Airbus planes. Some pilot freepers thought the Airbus was inherently inflexible and therefor dangerous. I am not in a position to verify the truth of those ideas, I just remember the conversations. Sure would be interesting to be able to find them and see whether this kind of thing was predicted — has any passenger jet ever “broken up” due to turbulence before?
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