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Air France jet 'may have exploded mid-air'
9 News ^ | Thu Jun 4 2009 | AFP

Posted on 06/03/2009 8:46:46 PM PDT by fortress

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To: Kimmers
Do you think any of Obamas peaceful muslim brothers had anything to do with this?

Nope. It's Bush's fault and Michael Moore is making a movie to prove it.

41 posted on 06/03/2009 9:20:16 PM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: tflabo

AIRBUS inc. would be better off if it was a bomb.


42 posted on 06/03/2009 9:20:54 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: advance_copy

I think you are right it seems to have taken minutes for the plane to fail.
Of course it is also possible that a bomb exploded that was just big enough to cause a structural failure.


43 posted on 06/03/2009 9:21:40 PM PDT by fortress
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To: Jeff Head
"it is unlikely that they would find the type of slick that they have located on the ocean. "

As a guy who spent 20 as a ground-pounder, I'm certainly no expert in aviation, especially big planes. But, I do remember when they were fishing TWA 800 wreckage out of the LI Sound, there was a considerable fuel slick within the debris field, FWIW.

TWA 800 wasn't brought down by explosives, but there was definitely a catastrophic explosion.

44 posted on 06/03/2009 9:21:50 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: GRANGER
The 20 km fuel slick indicates NO BOMB.

A small bomb against the skin of the plane at high altitude would cause a rapid depressurization. In effect the plane would explode but not directly as a result of the bomb. In other words the bomb would simply act as the trigger.

Unless the bomb were close to a fuel cell it would not necessarily cause a fuel explosion. The Lockerbie disaster, for example, was made far worse for folks on the ground because tons of aviation fuel fell, caught fire on the ground and burned much of the town.

45 posted on 06/03/2009 9:22:51 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SoldierDad

“Horribly insensitive comment IMHO”

I’m curious as to why you consider it insensitive?


46 posted on 06/03/2009 9:23:23 PM PDT by babygene
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To: GOPGuide

I’m not an expert but see my post #45.


47 posted on 06/03/2009 9:23:53 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: This_far

“Additionally, at least two (2) other planes on similar routes went through this area within a “close” time frame and completed their destinations.”

Means nothing, the average age of a thunderstorm from formation to extinction is 20 minutes.

Every pilot in their instrument training is taught to never enter a thunderstorm but to skirt them by 10 miles if possible.

Even Navy fighter jets are forbidden from entering a thunderstorm.


48 posted on 06/03/2009 9:24:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Frantzie
"I will stick to Boeing aluminum thank you."

I think you make a great point about preferring metal over plastic, regardless how advance the plastic is. But, in point of fact, I believe that it was the metal bolts that affixed the tail to the fuselage that actually failed, not the composite material itself.

Having said that, I would prefer a fully metal plane over something else.

49 posted on 06/03/2009 9:25:27 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: babygene
Allah Ahkbar!

You need to ask?????

50 posted on 06/03/2009 9:25:37 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: mc6809e; fortress

Thanks!


51 posted on 06/03/2009 9:26:49 PM PDT by tanuki (The only color of a leader that should matter is the color of his spine.)
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To: BenLurkin
"that possibility hasn't even been considered."

Don't competent investigators rule everything in until they can rule it out? On what evidence do they base their decision?

52 posted on 06/03/2009 9:27:14 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey; BenLurkin
It would seem if there was a catastophic explosion of the fuel, that there would be very little slick.

OTHO, a small explosion, or other event (ie. severe weather conditions) could have caused a structural failure.

Hopefully, though difficult in those climes, they will be able to find either enough wreckage or the black boxes to help figure it out.

It seems they are far too quick to dismiss terrorism IMHO, particularly when there had been threats there in the recent past.

53 posted on 06/03/2009 9:28:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: tanuki

Not that well. They explode in midair.


54 posted on 06/03/2009 9:29:22 PM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: GRANGER
f it were a bomb they would have known right away from the debris.

Per the article, no debris has been picked up yet.

55 posted on 06/03/2009 9:30:51 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: GRANGER
"and we have heard nothing of burn marks, etc"

You're absolutely right about evidence of an explosion (or no explosion for that matter) that would be left on the debris. But, as of around 6:00pm EST, no ships had yet reached the debris field and no debris had actually been collected from the sea, only spotted by planes from above.

56 posted on 06/03/2009 9:31:00 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Jeff Head

Didn’t an Airbus crash back East a few years ago, and it was found that the tail just broke off due to “turbulance”?


57 posted on 06/03/2009 9:31:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: SoldierDad

Yes. I think he was suggesting it was Rag-Head caused... I would agree.


58 posted on 06/03/2009 9:32:23 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Big_Monkey

“I’m still puzzled why there wasn’t any mayday call.”

When you are hit by windsheer in a thunderhead you wouldn’t have time to even press the mic button.

I was hit in a very small one that was imbedded in a storm and I was turned upside down instantly without warning.

The thing that really pissed me off was when I told the controler to get me out of these things he responded that I only had 2 more small ones ahead of me.

Problem was he couldn’t vary my flight path or altitude since I was on the transition from El Monte vor to the Seal Beach vor crossing the LAX landing pattern.


59 posted on 06/03/2009 9:32:26 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: advance_copy

Even if the plane had exploded it would take several minutes to reach the sea. If the cockpit were more or less intact and the batteries were ok the radios would continue to send word as various systems failed. The Challenger, for example, transmitted data as it fell to Earth.


60 posted on 06/03/2009 9:35:05 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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