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STATES MAY TAKE NEW LOOK AT REQUIRING ADULT CHILDREN TO PAY FOR AGING PARENTS
ncpa.org ^ | 6.4.9

Posted on 06/04/2009 8:33:58 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: Big_Monkey

The Good Book says - Honor thy mother and thy father.
It doesn’t say to do so if they were nice to you, or good parents, or even good people.

Yes, of course there are limits - molesters and abusers and the like - but part of the decline of the moral character of America is due to the notion that family is voluntary. Our children don’t listen to stories at Grandpa’s knee, marriages are convenience based, and even siblings are just people we see at Christmas.

I don’t think that the government has any business enforcing such a notion, but the moral basis of the law is Biblical and correct. We shouldn’t need the government to tell us to take care of our own, that’s the sad part.


41 posted on 06/04/2009 8:53:44 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

OK, so my parents pay thousands into Social Security for 40 + years.
*We* also pay thousands into Social Security.
Then we have to pay our parents bills.
At the same time we have to support our own children and set money aside for our own retirement because we’ll never see a dime of Social Security for ourselves.

Am I getting this right?

At what point are our parents responsible for themselves? At what point does the government have to uphold it’s promise to give back the money our parents “invested” in Social Security?

It’s really hard for me to swallow the fact that my father ditched and left my mother to raise me by herself in poverty, then (after working my a$$ off to overcome that childhood) I’m somehow supposed to crap the money to provide a better life for them than they provided for me.

My mother has a nice home with her sister, food and reliable medical care. When I was a kid, we ate out of dumpsters. My husband and I are *rockin’* Dave Ramsey and are living our lives responsibly. We’re not counting on Government assistance and are setting ourselves up for a good retirement. Please explain to me why I have to pay for my parents’ (or *anyone’s*) poor life choices?


42 posted on 06/04/2009 8:54:06 AM PDT by Marie
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To: DoughtyOne

Perhaps it would be an incentive for the parents to instill some good values in their children such that they understand their biblical duty to care for their parents when they need it.


43 posted on 06/04/2009 8:54:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Huh??? "Adult children"....you mean like this guy?"


44 posted on 06/04/2009 8:55:35 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Jedidah
My parents used to read books at the supper table when we were young. We all had to take a turn as soon as we were old enough to read. I thought it was weird at the time. But one passage from a book by a lady who had escaped from Communist China during the cultural revolution still haunts me.

It seems this elderly woman had been declared dead. She woke up in the funeral home sometime prior to the cremation, climbed out of the casket and went home to her family.

They weren't exactly thrilled to see her, but sent her to the local government office to get herself undeclared. They wouldn't give her the food ration stamps because she had been declared dead. After making the rounds and unsuccessfully trying to convince the bureaucrats she was alive, she gave up, went home, concocted a sleeping tea and climbed back into the casket in the funeral home and went to sleep.

45 posted on 06/04/2009 8:55:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Big_Monkey
I agree with you. My hubby's daddy beat him all the time. They haven't seen each other in years for good reason.

This is a horrible idea. Forcing them to pay for parents is a family destroyer. If kids are in a financial situation to afford it, they can help voluntarily. Families used to be like the Waltons. Big houses, everyone doing a part of helping each other with their needs.

That concept disappeared unfortunately.

46 posted on 06/04/2009 8:55:56 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping


47 posted on 06/04/2009 8:56:12 AM PDT by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: Moonman62
I have in-laws who provided bare basic care for my husband. Seriously. My MIL, a nurse, worked long enough every year to pay the bills in her Florida cracker house that should have been demolished. She barely kept food in the house and never bought them new clothes. Forget nurturing or love. She is from Thailand and they were her ticket into this country.

Neither one of them has any positive attributes. I'd leave the country before I let them suck me dry.

48 posted on 06/04/2009 8:57:30 AM PDT by riri
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To: dfwgator
"Why should I pay for it? "

Before the American Revolution, debts against the crown could be collected from the debtor's offspring, regardless if the debtor's estate was insolvent. Essentially, if your old man was a dead beat, they could take your possessions to satisfy his obligations.

While not frequently discussed, or understood for that matter, this is one of the things that the colonialists rebelled against. And yet, 230+ years later, our own Imperial Federal government wants to bring it back. No thanks.

49 posted on 06/04/2009 8:57:50 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Jedidah

Yup. SS was just one of many pandora’s boxes of socialism opened in this country. Medicaid, medicare, etc. The list goes on and on.

As federal, state, county and city governments become more and more desperate to keep from utterly collapsing, this sort of thing will be done. And it will work somewhat, and for a very short time, much as the barricades put up by the citizens in Berlin in 1945 worked against the soviets for a very short time and really had no impact on the inevitable, other than to put the people out for a time as they built them.

We are an empire in collapse. It will very possibly be total - ancient Rome style.


50 posted on 06/04/2009 8:58:39 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: libh8er

Parents are already mandated by the state to take care of their children, right? So why is it a big leap to mandate that children take care of their parents.


51 posted on 06/04/2009 9:00:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: InvisibleChurch
Good idea, in theory.

I think I'll do that (on my own, thank you).

It's not up to the government to say so in any regard.

52 posted on 06/04/2009 9:00:41 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: mom4melody

I’m sad to hear that for you.What kind of parent would abandon their own?


53 posted on 06/04/2009 9:01:19 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: pray4liberty

“Meanwhile we can’t even execute the guilty murderers sitting in prison. If they’re so hot to kill people, why don’t they start with them first. “

Then we can stop feeding them! There was a guy in a NY prison for 45 YEARS. I wonder how much the total taxpayer bill was for him?


54 posted on 06/04/2009 9:02:04 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Drill Thrawl
Dear Kids,

Having a great time on our cruise. Have
you paid our utilities, cable, lawn & pool
maintenance bills yet? They were due last
week.

Love,

Mom & Dad

55 posted on 06/04/2009 9:05:00 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: nutmeg

I don’t like state mandated anything anymore...

The state can’t take care of its own affairs, it needs to stop meddling in ours.


56 posted on 06/04/2009 9:05:13 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"Oh, Goody! I’ll have SIX adults requiring my mandated care and all of my money in the near future! Mom, Dad, Mom’s new husband, Dad’s new wife. Father-in-law and Mother-in-law."

Mrs. Bucket had a solution to a similar situation.

57 posted on 06/04/2009 9:06:02 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Marie

> Please explain to me why I have to pay for my parents’ (or *anyone’s*) poor life choices?

Because, in the case of your Parents, it is the right thing to do. Because it is an unselfish act of love (and in your case, forgiveness) that you can do for members of your family. Because it fulfills a wider obligation to look after the elderly, the weak, and the ill — and your parents may be all of those things one day — which is something that all good, honorable and decent people do, irrespective of their culture. That is what Jesus would want you to do. That is how Christians behave. It is a Biblical principle. It pleases God when we do these things, and angers Him when we do not.


58 posted on 06/04/2009 9:06:16 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Marie
Please explain to me why I have to pay for my parents’ (or *anyone’s*) poor life choices?

Why should I have to pay for your parents' poor life choices?

59 posted on 06/04/2009 9:06:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: Ol' Sox

LOL! Forgot about that scene. Very good! :)


60 posted on 06/04/2009 9:07:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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