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To: rbmillerjr

You can find credible people who say he deserved the sentence, and credible people who say it’s a miscarriage of justice. While I recognize attorneys represent all sorts of people, I’m tempted to believe that Theodore Olson wouldn’t have represented him for years if he didn’t believe he was denied justice. It’s not the kind of case you pad a political resume with. We simply won’t know until the sentencing letter is released. As I noted before, I think the judicial record is problematic.


38 posted on 06/04/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: SJackson

“...some people say it’s a miscarriage of justice...”

That claim can be made within our judicial system because our system takes such precautions to rightfully make the government prove it’s case to a high state of probability.

However, specifically in this case, one of critical spying and intelligence methods, every government will have security protocols that are going to come out of high ranking government officials. So, the defense claim is nearly guaranteed due to national security.

A defense claim of “release the classified documents” so I can defend myself is almost prerequisite in any spying case. It’s also certain that the documents won’t be released. Everything I’ve read on this case points to not just the highest security classifications but executive intervention to protect national security. I haven’t seen anything that supports the claim that there has been declassification of ALL of the information.

Just as the Bush Admin, imo, rightfully waterboarded/tortured high level terrorists to protect the nation...there are circumstances where unique intervention in a national security spying case gets intervention.

Civil Rights and Libertarian complaints aside, sometimes you have to trust your government. I’m sure you’re aware that Israel does the same thing and probably to a greater extent due to their precarious and vulnerable position in the Middle East.

This tension has played out throughout American history - between total freedom and limits on that freedom, as it does in other countries.


41 posted on 06/04/2009 1:07:42 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: SJackson

>>I’m tempted to believe that Theodore Olson wouldn’t have represented him for years if he didn’t believe he was denied justice.

Oh, come on, you really believe that.

Lawyers do it for the money.

Who paid Olson’s fees? Only if he did it pro bono would his representation mean anything else.


42 posted on 06/04/2009 1:41:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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