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Hal Turner Arrested
New Jersey.com ^ | June 4, 2009

Posted on 06/05/2009 4:05:24 PM PDT by NorwegianViking

HARTFORD, Conn. -- Authorities said a New Jersey man awaits extradition on a warrant charging him with inciting his website's readers to threaten two Connecticut lawmakers and a state ethics office employee.

Connecticut State Capitol Police say 47-year-old Harold "Hal" Turner was taken into custody Wednesday by police in North Bergen. He is scheduled to appear in court there today.

Police said Turner incited his online readers "to take up arms" against Sen. Andrew McDonald and Rep. Michael Lawlor.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: freespeech; halturner; neonazi; turnerradionetwork; whitesupremacist

1 posted on 06/05/2009 4:05:25 PM PDT by NorwegianViking
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To: NorwegianViking

Who the F is Hal Turner?


2 posted on 06/05/2009 4:08:54 PM PDT by library user
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To: NorwegianViking
Police said Turner incited his online readers "to take up arms" against Sen. Andrew McDonald and Rep. Michael Lawlor.

Typo. He meant to type "to take up alms." Political contributions.

3 posted on 06/05/2009 4:09:13 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: NorwegianViking

Nat’s cousin?


4 posted on 06/05/2009 4:10:33 PM PDT by Flint
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To: library user

He posted here on FR


5 posted on 06/05/2009 4:10:54 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado; DEPORT Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: HalTurner

Want a do-over?


6 posted on 06/05/2009 4:12:04 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: NorwegianViking

I can’t find the blog - only references to it...was it pulled down or are they transcribing it from www.liberalsmkingshitup.com?


7 posted on 06/05/2009 4:12:18 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Flint

Tina’s cousin.....’We Don’t Need Another Hero’


9 posted on 06/05/2009 4:12:49 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Screen name?


10 posted on 06/05/2009 4:13:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: NorwegianViking

Is this for real?!? Now we’re back to Woodrow Wilson style politics: arrest your political enemies for sedition and lock’em up with the rapists, murderers and drug dealers.


11 posted on 06/05/2009 4:13:08 PM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: CounterCounterCulture
He posted here on FR

Yes, he did, but not for long.

12 posted on 06/05/2009 4:15:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: arubarnp

I can’t find the blog - only references to it...was it pulled down or are they transcribing it from www.liberalsmkingshitup.com?


13 posted on 06/05/2009 4:15:06 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Good riddance from the look of things.


14 posted on 06/05/2009 4:16:14 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado; DEPORT Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: library user

This guy....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2264639/posts


15 posted on 06/05/2009 4:17:51 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: arubarnp
Doesn't happen to be against the law ~ even in Connecticut ~ otherwise where would they get any politicians up there.

What we have is Hal Turner typed some words on his blog. Somebody who doesn't like Hal read them and was inspired by those words to complain that he was advocating killing two homosexuals in a legislature just full of them.

At the same time the two homosexuals were announcing the introduction of legislation that would direct the Catholic Church in how to spend money and keep financial accounts.

I think what we have are some people "overreaching". Eventually they will get on airplanes and fly off to some place more in line with their interests. Maybe all of them will fly off. Maybe they'll visit with Chris Dodd and discuss how they can turn to a life of graft, corruption and theft and no longer be distracted by real political issues.

Whatever they do, this Turner guy is the least of it ~ he's just an incidental in Connecticut's fetid world of politics and Mafia business interests.

I think he is going to get off on this charge ~ he didn't quite make a REAL threat. Eventually he'll do that and then "they" will get him.

16 posted on 06/05/2009 4:19:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: arubarnp

Yup.


17 posted on 06/05/2009 4:20:25 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: arubarnp

But what is his down side?


18 posted on 06/05/2009 4:21:44 PM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: jessduntno

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-hal-turner-court-appearance-next-week,0,1100830.story

Internet radio host Hal Turner, accused of inciting violence against two state lawmakers and a state ethics official on a website, probably won’t appear in Connecticut to answer the charge until next week.

As of Thursday afternoon, Turner remained in a New Jersey jail, said state Capitol Police Chief Michael J. Fallon.

Turner, who has been identified as a white supremacist and anti-Semite by several anti-racism groups, hosts an Internet radio program with an associated blog. On Tuesday, the blog included a post that promised to release the home addresses of state Rep. Michael Lawlor, state Sen. Andrew McDonald and Thomas Jones of the State Ethics Office.

“It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally,’’ the blog stated. “These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die.”

Related links
Website: Turner Radio Network The remarks on the blog were a reaction to the recent controversy over a bill before the legislature’s judiciary committee that would have changed the way the Roman Catholic Church is governed, taking power away from church officials and turning it over to lay members. The bill was pulled in mid-March following an outcry from Catholics across the state and questions about its constitutionality. Lawlor and McDonald are co-chairman of the committee.

Last week, the controversy flared again when the Diocese of Bridgeport filed a federal lawsuit against state ethics officials, who are investigating whether church officials violated lobbying laws by organizing a rally at the state Capitol to protest the measure earlier this spring and not registering as lobbyists.

A message left with the person who answered the phone at the contact number listed on the blog was not returned.

Fallon said Capitol police learned of the blog posts from one of the targeted lawmakers on Tuesday “and by late Wednesday afternoon, we had him in custody.’’


19 posted on 06/05/2009 4:22:17 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: NorwegianViking

Another article said he was preparing to list the addresses of government officials, apparently so people could picket their homes. Sounds just like ACORN, right?

Well, this guy may be a Nazi sympathizer or something equally bad (I don’t know - never heard of him), but did he commit a crime? It doesn’t sound like it.


20 posted on 06/05/2009 4:24:26 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: NorwegianViking

I can’t find the blog - only references to it...like this...I still see no ORIGINAL blog post or screen capture...


21 posted on 06/05/2009 4:27:34 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: ElayneJ
Here is what he said on the blog - you decide

"It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally," the blog stated. "These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die."
And, the post continued, "If any state attorney, police department or court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this; I suspect we have enough bullets to put them down too."


He also intended to broadcast the home addresses of the officials in question but was arrested before he could do that
22 posted on 06/05/2009 4:36:16 PM PDT by slumber1
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To: arubarnp

***He’s a white supremacist neo-nazi scumbag.Honestly***

Sounds like the opposite of Al Sharpton, they havent arrested him . Or this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMOkDOXAovQ

This guy made his statement on camera. He teaches in a college? Its about 81/2 monutes into the video.Is this waht we want teaching in college? The old double standard again.


23 posted on 06/05/2009 4:39:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: slumber1

Class “A” nut job.


24 posted on 06/05/2009 4:39:40 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: NorwegianViking

“While filing a lawsuit is quaint and the ‘decent’ way to handle things, we at TRN (Turner Radio Network) believe that being decent to a group of tyrannical scumbags is the wrong approach,” Turner wrote on his blog. “It’s too soft. Thankfully, the Founding Fathers gave us the tools necessary to resolve tyranny: The Second Amendment.”

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/06/hal_turners_rant_brings_arrest.html

When did it become illegal to quote the founders and the second Amendment?

STE=Q


25 posted on 06/05/2009 4:45:53 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: NorwegianViking

Which arm was up.... left or right?


26 posted on 06/05/2009 5:09:58 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: STE=Q
When did it become illegal to quote the founders and the second Amendment?

About the same time that the government of Connecticut became infested by Democrats...

27 posted on 06/05/2009 5:10:54 PM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: slumber1
Let's see, legislature is in session, they're present, that's all that's needed. No doubt their home addresses are known far and wide ~ they are elected politicians for pete's sake.

It's not a crime to post an address.

28 posted on 06/05/2009 5:14:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: slumber1

“It is ‘our’ ‘intent’ to foment direct action against these individuals personally,”

“If any state attorney, police department or court thinks they’re going to get uppity with ‘us’ about this; I suspect ‘we’ have enough bullets to put them down too.”

HE WENT TOO FAR!

I think the problem he has is with the above words “OUR,” “WE,” and “US.”

HIS THREATS ARE VERY SPECIFIC.

Sounds like “incitement to do bodily harm” or some such charge.

STE=Q


29 posted on 06/05/2009 5:19:29 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

If he’s so stupid to tell his readers to take up arms against some political hacks, he deserves his fate.


30 posted on 06/05/2009 5:22:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: muawiyah

“It’s not a crime to post an address.”

Actually, it MIGHT be if they are police or prosecutors that have protect themselves from retribution.

I don’t know the law there but I believe it works that way in California.

I’m not a lawyer and I could be wrong, but I remember reading this somewhere.

STE=Q


31 posted on 06/05/2009 5:30:00 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q
It has to do with federal judges and federal prosecutors. Those are appointive positions and they deal with known criminals every day.

What we have here are "officials" who are otherwise elected members of the state legislature. Not exactly sure how you could ever get elected if you kept your address secret. Think about that one for awhile.

The other guy is a state official with an office in a well known building.

Look, I had a job in a public building and just anybody could come in, ride up the elevator, and bust in and shoot me (or my co-workers). We were concerned with that problem because we did business regularly with disreputable people in the MSM, the Mafia, the KKK, Planned Parenthood, and National Organization for Women ~ people like that who wouldn't blink their eyes while blowing your brains out over an unfavorable ruling in a postage deficiency matter.

So, what did we do? Well, my employer knew where my post office box was located. And, we kept the doors locked, and didn't leave stuff in our cars that revealed our identities, etc.

Never got shot. No doubt an elected official can't get away with even that and continue to get elected. And never forget, Arthur Bremmer is loose.

32 posted on 06/05/2009 5:43:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: STE=Q
Having bullets and telling people about how many you have is not a crime. In fact, the Leftwingtards would like for people to "register" their ammo.

The guy is just short of a real threat. What he's saying may sound like a threat, but I know threats that the FBI will usually respond to, and have been on the receiving end of them.

One good one "There's a bomb in my trunk parked in the (building name) garage."

Many's the time I and several thousand other people trooped out of the building.

Once the bomb was on a desk one floor above my desk, and another time the bomb was in the trunk of a guy's ex-girlfriend. Another time we came in Monday morning to a bomb threat ~ the boyfriend of a gal in another building got mixed up on his addresses and the bomb was in our parking garage.

There's usually got to be some evidence the person making the threat has the knowledge, opportunity and wherewithall to make good on it. Otherwise he gets charged with making a "false threat" (a more recent addition to the law thought to provide a useful prophylaxis).

It's useful for people to keep in mind the difference between "real threats" and "false threats". Under the Patriot Act the "false threats" thing has kind of slipped over into "terrorism".

Turner will walk on this one but he has no damage claims against anyone. At the same time he should realize that being in New Jersey does not protect him from the fascistic Leftwingtards who run Connecticut. They want to get him and they are reading his every word hoping to trip him up.

My guess is that most of Turner's audience are Leftwingtards. Before this event I'd never heard of him (unless he's involved in the Turner Diary thing).

33 posted on 06/05/2009 5:53:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Venturer
"This guy made his statement on camera."

The problem is Kill "whitey" or Kill "blacks" is not specific enough.(It's very bad; Don't get me wrong)

However, if one says, specifically, 'Common guys, we need go kill that white guy -- Joe Blow -- and if the cops try to stop us we will put them down too'... that might be crossing the line.

STE=Q

34 posted on 06/05/2009 6:04:18 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: muawiyah
"false threats"

Oh, I did not think about that possibility.

A 'false threat' loophole.

Thanks for the information.

STE=Q

35 posted on 06/05/2009 6:16:06 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: muawiyah
It has to do with federal judges and federal prosecutors. Those are appointive positions and they deal with known criminals every day.

Yeah, that was my recollection, but I wasn't sure if also extended to other public servants.

Apparently you have a lot of first hand experience.

Thanks again for the information.

STE=Q

36 posted on 06/05/2009 6:27:24 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: NorwegianViking
N.J. man charged in threats against legislators [Hal Turner]

37 posted on 06/05/2009 8:11:01 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: library user

hal turner is some neo nazi white supremacist with admitted homosexual urges...literally

he used to call sean hannity on his show but sean banned his phonecalls because hal is just a nutcase...


38 posted on 06/05/2009 8:34:06 PM PDT by chevydude26
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