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Gun-Rights Advocates Could Play A Role in Governor Election
WCAV TV ^ | 4 June, 2009 | Matt Holmes

Posted on 06/05/2009 5:30:55 PM PDT by marktwain

Virginia's Democratic Primary is five days away, and the three-way race for the party's governor nomination is tight.

Gun rights advocates don't typically engage in democratic politics. However, Northern Virginia-based "opencarry.org" is encouraging its members, republican, independent, and libertarian, to go vote in the Democratic primary and cast their vote for Brian Moran.

During his time in the House of Delegates, the website says Moran had what they call a pro-gun record. That includes votes to allow concealed handguns in school parking lots and to preempt all local gun control laws.

They say that "pretty good" record is far superior to Terry McAuliffe. They say his governorship would be a disaster for gun owners, adding Moran is also preferable to the third man in the race, State Senator Creigh Deeds.

Deeds actually got the endorsement of the National Rifle Association four years ago when he ran against Bob McDonnell for Attorney General.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; brianmoran; deeds; gunvote; mcauliffe; mcdonnell; moran; opencarry; primary; va; va2009
Nice to see coverage of the politics of Second Amendment rights. The more the people are informed, the more we win.
1 posted on 06/05/2009 5:30:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
That's good news.

"Gun rights advocates don't typically engage in democratic politics."

But many of the working class Democrats are actually in favor of their Second Amendment rights, and firearms are in style. That's part of the reason for the shortages and part of the reason for recent failures by the Democrat elite to get some of their legislators to pass anti-Second-Amendment bills.


2 posted on 06/05/2009 5:37:46 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: marktwain

Before any nation is taken over, the guns must be taken from the people. Our nation is in grave danger, greater than ever before right now.


3 posted on 06/05/2009 5:38:17 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: marktwain

I think I’ll probably vote for Deeds. He is from Virginia and should be pretty good on guns.


4 posted on 06/05/2009 5:38:41 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: marktwain

Let’s give those good ol’ boys a “high five”

Maybe there’s hope afterall.


5 posted on 06/05/2009 5:47:20 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: Carry me back

Apparently not as good as Moran, according to those who would know best... the gun-owners associations. Remember that the NRA has a serious history of compromising our rights, not sticking up for them. They have endorsed legislation and candidates that are ANATHEMA to the interests of gun-owners.


6 posted on 06/05/2009 7:34:57 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Carry me back; dcwusmc; P8riot

I do hope y’all are just talking about the primary and not the general election.


7 posted on 06/05/2009 7:48:41 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

That’s all I’m talking about... but I’ll have to get my son interested, ‘cause he’s the one that lives there...


8 posted on 06/05/2009 8:12:25 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

Fair enough. But I do believe Deeds will be the most difficult to defeat in the general.

Just sayin’.

And, regadless of what this group says NONE OF THE DEMS will be your “friend” on guns.


9 posted on 06/05/2009 8:14:15 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

61 dems are telling obama to take a flying leap in case he starts his gun control agenda.

So far the NRA’s strategy for ending the us vs. them seems to be working.

By the way, thanks to the NRA for the Chicago lawsuit.


10 posted on 06/05/2009 8:35:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Corin Stormhands

The ONLY reason any of this talk is going on is to keep Terry McAwful as far away from the governor’s mansion as possible.


11 posted on 06/06/2009 3:23:16 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Shooter 2.5; P8riot
All I'm saying is that from the experience of Freepers telling me Timmy the Eyebrow would be "okay" on guns that they should look at his real record as governor. Being the chief executive is different than serving in Congress and Senate.

The Washington Times, April 1, 2009
EDITORIAL: Anti-reason on guns Kaine vetoes five bills despite evidence as well as public support
When Tim Kaine campaigned for Virginia governor in 2005, he ran an ad implying that former National Rifle Association President Charlton Heston was praising him. His campaign claimed that "Tim Kaine strongly supports the Second Amendment." Once he won office, Mr. Kaine vetoed one gun bill after another that would have helped Virginians protect themselves from criminals.

So, I'm just sayin', use this info to vote how you may in the primary. But in the general election, if you believe any of the Democrat three are your "friend" concerning guns, you're just fooling yourself.

12 posted on 06/06/2009 5:18:01 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Carry me back

What does your primary look like on the republican side?


13 posted on 06/06/2009 5:29:12 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

The GOP held their convention last week, not a primary.

Bob McDonnell, former Attorney General (resigned to campaign) for Governor
Bill Bolling, Current Lt. Governor for re-election
Ken Cuccinelli, State Senator, for Attorney General

One of the most solidly conservative tickets we’ve had in several cycles.


14 posted on 06/06/2009 6:36:32 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

What are the polls saying?


15 posted on 06/06/2009 1:12:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

For the primary, it’s a toss up. Pick a poll and you’ll find a different leader.

For the general, McDonnell typically leads all three. But he’s been the unofficial nominee for months now, so that has to factor into it.


16 posted on 06/06/2009 1:50:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

What kind of guy is this Bob McDonnell?


17 posted on 06/06/2009 2:17:26 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

He’s not perfect. But he’s pretty solidly conservative. He’ll be a good governor.


18 posted on 06/06/2009 2:23:31 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

“He’s not perfect.”
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You know, I think that is part of “our” problem;
if a guy (or gal) ain’t like Regan resurrected,
then everybody wants to jump on their imperfections
and self-destruct, so that we never get anywhere.


19 posted on 06/06/2009 3:50:21 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Oh, don’t get me wrong. He’s darn good.


20 posted on 06/06/2009 3:51:24 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

I hope and pray that we will see monumental changes in 2010.


21 posted on 06/06/2009 3:54:34 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: marktwain; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
Using a vote for Moran as a strategy to put their weakest candidate (which he is) on the ballot is one thing. But if guns rights advocates think Brian Moran is their friend, they're misinformed.

In his own words: Moran calls Deeds Gun Views Very Extreme

Fair warning, it's a link to a Virginia Democrat's blog, but here's the quote from Moran about Deeds:

Well, it's extreme. He's the only Democrat who's ever received an endorsement from the NRA since 1989, I mean that's different from Warner, Kaine or myself or Jim Webb... There are some positions where I believe he's taken extreme positions. He voted against my legislation to keep guns out of the hands of those convicted of stalking and domestic abuse. He also voted against one gun a month, which was Doug Wilder's legislation. He also voted for guns in bars and family restaurants. That puts him on a very extreme position, and we're educating the voters with respect to that extreme position on guns.

As I've said several times, vote for Moran as a strategy during the primary. But he's not your friend in the general.

22 posted on 06/06/2009 5:38:00 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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I think Deeds is truly conservative on guns. I don’t think he is the liberal that Cain is. I’ll be so glad when Cain is gone. I think it is good for Virginia if Deeds gets the Dem nomination.


23 posted on 06/06/2009 7:49:12 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Repeal The 17th

It looks pretty good. I think this time Virginia is doing OK. The GOP has a good slate of candidates and the Dems seem not to be so liberal. That is if Deeds wins the Dem primary.


24 posted on 06/06/2009 7:52:53 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: marktwain

BTTT


25 posted on 06/09/2009 4:51:19 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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