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Statement on the Death of George Tiller
Judy Pollock

Posted on 06/07/2009 11:29:06 AM PDT by September

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To: Alamo-Girl
Back at post 80, csense asked:

Who is deserving of execution, and who is not.

The answer is we all are and Christ is not.

Well, that's helpful. Thanks for that tremendous insight regarding this issue...

161 posted on 06/07/2009 11:09:33 PM PDT by csense
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
The penalty for Murder is Death. It says so in the Ten Commandments too.

Which commandment is that?

162 posted on 06/07/2009 11:15:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: csense
Well, this is POLITICS and POLICY we are talking about here, as well as negotiation for the best laws that we can get, through legislation in Congress and the States.

We will not make progress with angry, bitter, vindictive and judgmental attacks on women.

You can not bark out orders, in a free society, and expect everyone to follow you.

Public opinion has actually been very consistent, over time, where actual legislation is concerned.

Is it your goal to put women in prison?

Is it your goal to curb, restrict and reduce abortion?

Those two goals ARE mutually exclusive, if you look at the actual legislation that we have any prayer of getting enacted into law.

163 posted on 06/07/2009 11:29:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: csense
You are not very smart, are you?

Medical doctors are licensed.

Nurses are licensed.

Clinics are licensed.

All must have some form of insurance.

All must obey the law, to avoid losing their licenses and to avoid lawsuits, and even to avoid criminal penalty.

All of this can be done WITHOUT criminal charges against women.

In fact, the women will be witnesses AGAINST the abortionist, in many cases.

Now, any crime carries with it the “conspiracy” component, but I would urge any prosecutor to use that option ONLY to get witnesses to testify.

It does not appear that you have much experience in professional licensing or in criminal justice or in history or in medicine.

Again, you have every right to your uniformed and misogynistic opinions.

164 posted on 06/07/2009 11:34:57 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
We will not make progress with angry, bitter, vindictive and judgmental attacks on women.

[...]

Again, you have every right to your uniformed and misogynistic opinions.

And you think I'm a mouthpiece for the left.

Again, go pound sand....

165 posted on 06/07/2009 11:51:20 PM PDT by csense
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To: P-Marlowe

With this Congress and President I agree.


166 posted on 06/08/2009 12:18:25 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: babygene

The key question here should be: Our are tax dollars funding trolls like Stephenie, and why are newbie trolls allowed to vanity post in the first place?


167 posted on 06/08/2009 1:54:26 AM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: September; youngelder

Hmm... you two one and the same?


168 posted on 06/08/2009 7:04:27 AM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: September

“Why do these two scenarios evoke such different responses from people if children are being killed by a doctor in both cases?”

Because in the first case, the action is effective. In the second case, it isn’t.

In the first case, the law and the society affirm the action of the good citizen. The government is unlikely to offer protection to other mad doctors who will rampage through hospital nurseries. The society condemns the doctor and praises the hero who put down the mad doctor. Nothing in law or culture encourages or protects the next mad doctor. The concept of the legal protection of the born children in the nursery is not brought into disrepute by the actions of the hero gunman.

On the other hand, in the killing of the abortionist, there will be another to take his place. The dead abortionist is considered a martyr to his cause. The baby butcher who takes his place is lionized as a courageous hero. The government promises to enhance physical security for baby butchers everywhere. The society, the culture view the one who exterminated the baby butcher as an “extremist” who acted as a “vigilante,” who violated the law.

Remember that it isn’t illegal to kill the mad doctor - the defense of innocent life is an affirmative defense to charges of murder. However, because it IS legal for abortionists to murder unborn babies, it is ALSO ILLEGAL to exterminate abortionists to prevent them from killing again. Thus, the one who exterminated the abortionist, unlike the hero in the nursery, has committed, legally, some act of illegal, legally-unjustified homicide.

The actions of the abortionist-exterminator thus are feckless, and socially and culturally, do harm. He stops very few, if any, further murders of unborn babies. His actions bring into disrepute the concept that unborn children should be protected in law. And lastly, he delays the day when unborn children will finally be protected in law.


169 posted on 06/08/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: csense
You're quite welcome. Thank you for your encouragement!
170 posted on 06/08/2009 7:50:09 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jim from C-Town
No. We live in a country almost wholly controlled by a political elite that cares little about what their constituents feel because almost none of them are ever not reelected. Gerrymandering and political dealing have driven us so far from a recognizable civil society that there is little hope that we will long survive as a free people.

Check out "Get Out of Our House" at www.goooh.com. It's a plausible, sensible plan do deal with that issue.
171 posted on 06/08/2009 10:17:24 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 ("If we give the bureaucrats our children, we may as well give them everything else." - J. G. Machen)
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To: Kansas58
Tiller was NOT “elderly” so why claim that he was?

He was 67. That is pretty old, is it not?

172 posted on 06/08/2009 3:44:48 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: goat granny
ow many others were killed the same day...7 just in Chicago alone...murder started in the Garden of Eden, no one should be shocked at it...Grieve if it a loved one of course. But Tiller was just one many that day...He's not worth the print the MSM is giving him.

The difference is no one is attempting to justify the other murders that took place on that day as far as I know. And I agree he is not worth the print. I couldn't care less about Tiller or Roeder.

Tiller was an evil man who did a bad, but legal, thing.

Roeder is an idiotic extremist stooge who is going to die in jail.

The point is simply that you absolutely cannot allow anyone to do what Roeder did. It is too slippery a slope: saying it is okay to knock off people doing legal things you personally do not approve of.

173 posted on 06/08/2009 3:57:14 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: GoldStandard

No, it is not.
At that age, you are barely eligible for full Social Security benefits.
At that age, you have a very good chance of living past age 90. In fact, half the people that age will not live to age 87 and half will live longer than age 87.
20 more years!


174 posted on 06/08/2009 3:57:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: September

You gotta shake lose of the labia,
if you wanna chance to LIVE.

Until then, momma ain’t got your back, BABY!

Momma ain’t got yo’ back
Momma ain’t got yo’ back

It was warm inside
And then I tried to HIDE

Momma ain’t got my BACK!

And they seraphim say:

(I want my baby back baby back baby back . . .)


175 posted on 06/08/2009 4:08:42 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: GoldStandard
Tiller was a serial killer, his murderer was just another murderer, I have not read of anyone justifying Roeder’s action, just people not caring about it. There is no slippery slope if Roeder is tried and convicted. I have not read of anyone wanted him to go free for his action..
176 posted on 06/08/2009 4:16:31 PM PDT by goat granny
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