Obama quoted a Qur'an verse about waging war to argue for peace and shared interests

Jihad Watch ^ | 6/5/09 | Robert

[Califreak]

Foes of the global jihad are constantly accused of quoting the Qur'an "out of context," but when Barack Obama actually did so in Cairo yesterday, no one seems to have minded.

He quoted one Qur'an verse in connection with speaking of our shared interests as human beings:

As the Holy Koran tells us, "Be conscious of God and speak always the truth." That is what I will try to do – to speak the truth as best I can, humbled by the task before us, and firm in my belief that the interests we share as human beings are far more powerful than the forces that drive us apart.

Ironically, the Qur'anic passage from which his quote comes actually is about fighting unbelievers, and doesn't remotely lead to thoughts of coming together with people with whom one has differences.

Obama quoted 9:119, which Pickthall renders this way: "O ye who believe! Be careful of your duty to Allah, and be with the truthful."

The passage continues:

It is not for the townsfolk of Al-Madinah and for those around them of the wandering Arabs to stay behind the messenger of Allah and prefer their lives to his life. That is because neither thirst nor toil nor hunger afflicteth them in the way of Allah, nor step they any step that angereth the disbelievers, nor gain they from the enemy a gain, but a good deed is recorded for them therefor. Lo! Allah loseth not the wages of the good. Nor spend they any spending, small or great, nor do they cross a valley, but it is recorded for them, that Allah may repay them the best of what they used to do. And the believers should not all go out to fight. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may gain sound knowledge in religion, and that they may warn their folk when they return to them, so that they may beware. O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). -- 9:120-123 In that passage, the Qur'an is scolding Muslims who refused to accompany Muhammad on his expedition to Tabouk in northern Arabia, where he wanted to fight a Byzantine garrison. The Byzantines weren't there when he arrived, and so there was no battle, but he was considerably angered that some Muslims in Medina and among the Bedouins ("wandering Arabs") had refused to make the trip -- they "prefer[red] their lives to his life." The Qur'an promises that if they do anything that "angereth the disbelievers," they will be credited with having done a good deed, and Allah will repay them for such good deeds. The Muslims should fight the unbelievers and be harsh with them.

Obama picked out of this one sentence that made it appear as if the Qur'an was simply counseling one to speak the truth, mindful of the divine presence. In reality, the passage is about the necessity to wage jihad warfare against unbelievers, and not to fail to perform this duty. He took a passage about warfare and division and passed it off as part of a call for us all to come together and sing kumbaya.

Yet neither Honest Ibe Hooper of CAIR nor any other Muslim spokesman is complaining today that Obama quoted the Qur'an out of context. How strange!

[Califreak]

Clarion call?

[Julia H.]

And if Bush quotes the Bible, he’s accused of trying to turn America into a theocracy.

[wolfpat]

I was among the many who pooh-poohed the idea of Obama being a practicing Muslim.

However, his words and actions when he goes overseas makes me go “Hmmm”.

[Concho]

“The Holy Koran tells US”???????

[The Pack Knight]

This is hilarious, and just like Obama. Ladies and gentlemen, if you didn’t realize it before, we have an empty suit in the Oval Office.

[Migraine]

There is absolutely no call for him to use the word “holy” in conjunction with the koran — only a muslim needs to do that. Unless...

[SouthernmostFreeper]

ASS BACKWARDS POLITICS.

But then come to think of it, when isn’t it?

[The Pack Knight]

I was about to say that this confirms that he probably isn’t. After all, it’s pretty clear he hasn’t read the damn thing.

Of course, it would also be just like him to be a practicing Muslim who has never actually bothered to read the Koran.

[ClearCase_guy]

"O ye who believe! Be careful of your duty to Allah, and be with the truthful."

“I will stand with [the Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” -- Barack Hussein Obama

[Califreak]

Not me. I’m in the toldjaso club.

But for a long time, I believed he had too much baggage to actually be elected.

I knew voters were stupid, but I didn’t count on voters being THAT stupid.

[MrB]

Obama’s religion is Narcissism.
And, either on purpose or inadvertantly, he’s working for the father of lies.

[NoObamaFightForConservatives]

Every day I am more frightened for our coutries safety and livlihood.

I only pray to Gos that Obama and his marxist cronies house of cards tumble down before it is too late.I think America sees the man behind the curtain by now. I hope to God he does not get us all killed.

[True Republican Patriot]

Obozo Strikes Again! Obozo Strikes Out time After time!
Hoping the Republicans make a great Campaign Ad on This One!

[NoObamaFightForConservatives]

REPOST SPELLING CORRECTION:

Every day I am more frightened for our coutries safety and livlihood.

I only pray to God that Obama and his marxist cronies house of cards tumble down before it is too late.I think America sees the man behind the curtain, by now. I hope to God he does not get us all killed.

[kromike]

Of course, it would also be just like him to be a practicing Muslim who has never actually bothered to read the Koran.

True. After all, in the same context, he's considered to be a "practicing President". He claims to have all the magic elixirs and potions to cure all our ills from cradle to grave, yet he's just a quack.

[null and void]

Color me shocked.

[freekitty]

Obama had a lot of help with fraudulent voting compliments of ACORN.

[MestaMachine]

Jihad Watch has quoted the wrong passage from the K book. The correct passage is 33:70 which has many translations, depending on your sect, but it is not about following the prophet into battle.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2181917/posts?page=897#897
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2181917/posts?page=898#898
Obama knows his audience. Furthermore, he states, “As the Holy Koran tells US...”
Who, exactly, is US???

[Califreak]

Good grief-your link makes it sound even worse!

[RasterMaster]

He admitted as much on Georgie Stuffanopolis “my muzlum faith”...that was no slip of the tongue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

Then there’s this excerpt from an article dated March 6, 2007....

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[Brookhaven]

I think the Koran quoting may backfire on Obama.

As a Christian, when I hear non-Christian groups (gay rights, PETA, etc...) using quotes from the Bible to prove their point, it doens’t make me more open to thier poisition, it makes me angry. I know they are taking them out of context and twisting their meaning for their own purposes.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” for example, has been used countless times to try and show that people should keep their mouths shut about sinful activites. Of course, they never quote the second half of the story: “now go forth, and sin no more.” The story, taken in its entierty, is about forgiveness, putting your sinful ways behind you, and starting again fresh. But when you only quote the first part of the story, you twist it into a story about ignoring sin.

I have to wonder how many of Obama’s Koran quotes were taken out of context or he tried to twist to fit his goals. My guess is more than a few. In which case he probably just made muslims madder due to his misquoting of the Koran.

[alexander_busek]

Ironically, the Qur'anic passage from which his quote comes actually is about fighting unbelievers, and doesn't remotely lead to thoughts of coming together with people with whom one has differences.

In Obama's defense, it would be admittedly very difficult to find a verse in the Koran which didn't pertain in some way to killing infidels, subjugating other peoples and converting them by the sword, oppressing women, etc.

Regards,

[MrB]

“Those without the Spirit”, ie, non-Christians, cannot fathom the meaning of the Word, so they apply their own meaning ON the words.

1 Cor 2:14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

[Red_Devil 232]

"After all, it’s pretty clear he hasn’t read the damn thing."

Actually I think he knew exactly what he was saying! He used a phrase that would sound benign to a non mohammadan but to a mohammadan it would be understood for what it was!

[HighlyOpinionated]

Of course, it would also be just like him to be a practicing Muslim who has never actually bothered to read the Koran.

True. After all, in the same context, he's considered to be a "practicing President". He claims to have all the magic elixirs and potions to cure all our ills from cradle to grave, yet he's just a quack.

Go to http://www.JeffHead.com and read about 0's education. He practiced memorizing whole passages of the Koran while he was in the primary school in Indonesia.

0bama thinks he can "play" both Muhammadanism and Christianity and get away with it. Problem is, the music sounds like h3ll and is not going to work forever. Eventually the orchestra stops the music and exposes 0bama for what he is. A nekkid empty suit.

THIS is what 0bama really looks like.

[ponygirl]

He used a phrase that would sound benign to a non mohammadan but to a mohammadan it would be understood for what it was!

That's exactly what I thought when I read the article. The guy is as low as a snake and twice as slippery.

[Never on my watch]

The Koran is not Holy, it is the field manual for Jihadists.

Mohamed is not a prophet, he was a perverted, sadistic, warmongering mental case acting as an agent of the Devil.

[rob777]

"I was about to say that this confirms that he probably isn’t. After all, it’s pretty clear he hasn’t read the damn thing."


Given his views on social issues like abortion and homosexuality, it is highly unlikely that he is a practicing Muslim in any way. His seeming embrace of Islam on this trip it fits in with a general overall pattern. When he traveled to Europe, he presented himself as the world's leading "social democrat". The message: he is one of them. When he traveled to the Muslim world he presented himself as someone who is one of them as well despite professing to be a Christian. President Obama believes in global socialism and is convinced that he is the one to lead the whole planet in this direction. He is the prototype "Citizen of the World". His arrogance knows no bounds and he presents himself as all things to all people so that he will be accepted as the "Dear Leader" by all.

[a fool in paradise]

He’s a deceiver. He claims to be a Christian yet he denies the divinity of Christ.

This is either a huge gaffe or a wink and a nod on his part.

[a fool in paradise]

I was about to say that this confirms that he probably isn’t. After all, it’s pretty clear he hasn’t read the damn thing. Of course, it would also be just like him to be a practicing Muslim who has never actually bothered to read the Koran.

In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies...

Maybe he shoulda paid attention in class?

[wiggen]

it don’t tell me squat

[MrB]

Reposting

Notice how Obama refers to Jesus simply as an “historical figure” and how John tells us to detect the anti-christ and the “spirit of error”. I’m not saying that 0bama is the anti-christ, just that he works for him.

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GG: Who’s Jesus to you?
OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.

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1 John 4
Test the Spirits
1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

[a fool in paradise]

Anyone who leads the flock astray IN THE NAME OF JESUS is an antiChrist figure. Not THE antiChrist but one working AGAINST Christ to lead the faithful away from Biblical teachings.

He is a deceiver.

I’d be more okay with his socialist secular humanism if he didn’t claim to be OF Christ, which by his words and deeds he is not.

[MrB]

Secular humanism

is just another name for Satanism.

Being “hip” and a “humanist” is just being friends with the world, which is enmity to God.

[a fool in paradise]

He also claims to hold a “healthy skepticism” of “organized religion”, which he says his agnostic mother also held.

He cited a Catholic priest he says “brought him to Jesus” in adulthood (although his fiction filled campaign website claimed he was a lifelong Christian). While it was a Catholic figure who brought him to Christianity, he ultimately settled on a 20 year membership at a former muslim’s hate filled church (which engaged in “interfaith” ministries with the racist Father Pfleger).

He seems to have gone to church twice since his election (once to his grandmother's Unitarian church for her second funeral, and once for Easter Sunday). He does not appear to be bringing his children up within the Church and it's been reported that he does not give his kids Christmas gifts (there is nothing biblical about the tradition, just something noted in the media).

His staff is still searching for him a church in Washington DC. Shouldn't he have already had one there if he was attending church on Sundays (at least occasionally) while he was in the Senate?

[NoObamaFightForConservatives]

Good post.

[444Flyer]

So, does this actually mean 0 made a subliminal call for Jihad in front of the world with his Muslim Brothers in attendance?

[presently no screen name]

He admitted as much on Georgie Stuffanopolis “my muzlum faith”...that was no slip of the tongue.

Right! And George had to correct him - 'you don't mean...."

[MrB]

All he has to do is turn on CNN at any time to “attend services” in the “Church of Obama”.

[tillacum]

I’ve come to believe nobama is no empty suit. He and his comittee know exactly what they have planned for this country and it is NOT to keep it strong. I also believe he was, is and will forever be a muslim. The more trips he makes out of this country the more he speaks to the world of “peace”....but it is the muslim’s term for peace. World control.

[444Flyer]

“...and by peace shall destroy many...”

Daniel 8:25

[SJackson]

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He brags about understanding the culture, and jihad is what they do.

[NoObamaFightForConservatives]

I never thought of it like that but it sure looks that way.

[FreepShop1]

There should be an InTrade bet on when Barack Huseein Obama will re-convert to Islam.

[Califreak]

OSAMA BIN LADEN

In his famous Fatwa issued in August 1996, Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places, Osama Bin Laden is disturbed by the fact that Muslims are being persecuted by the Zionists-Crusaders alliance led by the United States of America. Osama gives references to the following Quranic verses emphasizing the duty of human beings to the Creator and stressing the importance of restraining oppressors. These are:

? “O you who believe! Be careful of-your duty to-Allah with the proper care which is due to Him, and do not die unless you are Muslim.” (3:102)

? “O you who believe! Be careful of your duty to Allah and speak the right word; He will put your deeds into a right state for you, and forgive you your faults; and who ever obeys Allah and his Apostle, he indeed achieve a mighty success.” (33:70-71)

? “You are the best of the nations raised up for the benefit of men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah.” (3:110)

? The Prophet (sws) said: “The people are close to an all encompassing punishment from Allah if they see the oppressor and fail to restrain him.”

>So, does this actually mean 0 made a subliminal call for Jihad in front of the world with his Muslim Brothers in attendance?<

Maybe.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Does anyone have the Red and Blue Obama poster with the various b.s. phrases below such as ‘Hope’ and ‘Change’? It’s time for all of us to start posting that same picture all over the US, just make flyers, that say ‘Usurper’ or ‘Quisling’ or ‘Kenyan’ or ‘Traitor’. Just start taping them to stop signs all over the place. Or bumper stickers that say ‘Obama’, then stick them just below the ‘STOP’ on a stop sign. The Devil hates to be mocked. If anyone has the artwork, please Freepmail it to me. Thanks.

[Califreak]

I thought this was interesting:

Muslims are warned not to fight amongst themselves:

“Under such circumstances, to push the enemy-the greatest Kufr- out of the country is a prime duty. No other duty after Belief is more important than the duty of had. Utmost effort should be made to prepare and instigate the Ummah against the enemy, the American-Israeli alliance - occupying the country of the two Holy Places and the route of the Apostle (sws) to the Furthest Mosque (Al-Aqsa Mosque). Also to remind the Muslims not to be engaged in an internal war among themselves, as that will have grieve consequences namely:

? consumption of the Muslims human resources as most casualties and fatalities will be among the Muslims people.
? Exhaustion of the economic and financial resources.
? Destruction of the country infrastructures
? Dissociation of the society
? Destruction of the oil industries. The presence of the USA Crusader military forces on land, sea and air of the states of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger threatening the largest oil reserve in the world. The existence of these forces in the area will provoke the people of the country and induces aggression on their religion, feelings and prides and push them to take up armed struggle against the invaders occupying the land; therefore spread of the fighting in the region will expose the oil wealth to the danger of being burned up. The economic interests of the States of the Gulf and the land of the two Holy Places will be damaged and even a greater damage will be caused to the economy of the world. I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah’s Permission and Grace. We also warn the aggressors, the USA, against burning this Islamic wealth (a crime which they may commit in order to prevent it, at the end of the war, from falling in the hands of its legitimate owners and to cause economic damages to the competitors of the USA in Europe or the Far East, particularly Japan which is the major consumer of the oil of the region).
? Division of the land of the two Holy Places, and annexing of the northerly part of it by Israel. Dividing the land of the two Holy Places is an essential demand of the Zionist-Crusader alliance. The existence of such a large country with its huge resources under the leadership of the forthcoming Islamic State, by Allah’s Grace, represent a serious danger to the very existence of the Zionist state in Palestine. The Nobel Ka’ba, -the Qiblah of all Muslims- makes the land of the two Holy Places a symbol for the unity of the Islamic world. Moreover, the presence of the world largest oil reserve makes the land of the two Holy Places an important economical power in the Islamic world. The sons of the two Holy Places are directly related to the life style (Seerah) of their forefathers, the companions, may Allah be pleased with them. They consider the Seerah of their forefathers as a source and an example for re-establishing the greatness of this Ummah and to raise the word of Allah again. Furthermore the presence of a population of fighters in the south of Yemen, fighting in the cause of Allah, is a strategic threat to the Zionist-Crusader alliance in the area. The Prophet (sws) said: (around twelve thousands will emerge from Aden/Abian helping -the cause of- Allah and His messenger, they are the best, in the time, between me and them) narrated by Ahmad with a correct trustworthy reference.

? An internal war is a great mistake, no matter what reasons are there for it. the presence of the occupier-the USA- forces will control the outcome of the battle for the benefit of the international Kufr.”

Remember how we took the fight over there after 9/11?

Maybe Millstone is taking their fight over here.

? consumption of the Muslims human resources as most casualties and fatalities will be among the Muslims people.

(Not if the fight is over here)

? Exhaustion of the economic and financial resources.

(in progress)

? Destruction of the country infrastructures

(in progress)

? Dissociation of the society

(in progress)

? Destruction of the oil industries.

(in progress)

Al Qaeda’s inside man at 1600 is their greatest weapon.

They must be laughing at America right now, because so many people were stupid enough to put him there.

[mojitojoe]

. He took a passage about warfare and division and passed it off as part of a call for us all to come together and sing kumbaya.
______________
Was that really a mistake or did he know exactly what he was doing?

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Somthing very Bolshevik about that checklist. Probably prepared by Al-Zawahiri.

[Califreak]

I’m sure he knew exactly what he was doing.