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Nebraska doc plans to offer 3rd-term abortions in Kansas
AP ^ | June 10 | MARGERY GIBBS

Posted on 06/10/2009 6:55:11 PM PDT by Hawk720

A Nebraska doctor said Wednesday that he will perform third-term abortions in Kansas after the slaying of abortion provider George Tiller, but would not say whether he will open a new facility or offer the procedure at an existing practice.

Dr. LeRoy Carhart declined to discuss his plans in detail during a telephone interview with The Associated Press, but insisted "there will be a place in Kansas for the later second- and the medically indicated third-trimester patients very soon."

"I just think that until everything is in place, it's something that doesn't need to be talked about" in detail, Carhart said a day after Tiller's family announced his Wichita clinic was permanently shutting its doors.

Tiller's clinic was one of the only facilities in the country that performed third-trimester abortions. Carhart has run his own clinic in Bellevue, Neb., since 1985, but had performed late-term abortions at Tiller's clinic because of Nebraska's more restrictive abortion laws.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: abortionists; leroycarhart

1 posted on 06/10/2009 6:55:11 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720

For his family’s sake, I hope his insurance is paid up.


2 posted on 06/10/2009 7:01:14 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Hawk720

“Be not forgetful to entertain strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.“ -Hebrews 13:2 ...


3 posted on 06/10/2009 7:01:32 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: Hawk720

i have one question that i have never heard a proponent of late-term abortions answered, why on earth would someone medically need an abortion where the baby is viable?

if there is a sudden urgent need such as preclampsia, why not just c-section the baby and give it a chance for life with a family? why kill it?

i have never heard an explanation. certainly by the time a baby is viable, it has a right to live.

(all have a right to life, but i am speaking about the particular evil of late term abortions.)


4 posted on 06/10/2009 7:02:07 PM PDT by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: Hawk720

If I’m not mistaken, George Tiller experienced a fourth term abortion.


5 posted on 06/10/2009 7:02:24 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Hawk720
medically indicated third-trimester patients

Explain 'medically indicated'.

6 posted on 06/10/2009 7:03:23 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: stevem

No, it was a Two-hundred-seventy-second term abortion

( Sawwy. I couldn’t help myself!!!)


7 posted on 06/10/2009 7:04:01 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Hawk720; freekitty; Albion Wilde; sheik yerbouty; justiceseeker93; romanesq; GOP_Lady; ...

My oldest daughter, now 35 years old, was born 9 weeks premature weighing 3 lbs. What these ghouls are doing is murder. Anyone that has had a premature baby knows it’s murder.


8 posted on 06/10/2009 7:05:39 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Hawk720

I think it is important to get a glimpse of this hellspawn.

From Stenberg vs Carhart (SCOTUS).

“The person challenging Nebraska’s law is Dr. Leroy Carhart, a physician who received his medical degree from Hahnemann Hospital and University in 1973. App. 29. Dr. Carhart performs the procedures in a clinic in Nebraska, id., at 30, and will also travel to Ohio to perform abortions there, id., at 86. Dr. Carhart has no specialty certifications in a field related to childbirth or abortion and lacks admitting privileges at any hospital. Id., at 82, 83. He performs abortions throughout pregnancy, including when he is unsure whether the fetus is viable. Id., at 116. In contrast to the physicians who provided expert testimony in this case (who are board certified instructors at leading medical education institutions and members of the American Board of Obstetricians and Gynecologists), Dr. Carhart performs the partial-birth abortion procedure (D&X) that Nebraska seeks to ban. He also performs the other method of abortion at issue in the case, the D&E.

As described by Dr. Carhart, the D&E procedure requires the abortionist to use instruments to grasp a portion (such as a foot or hand) of a developed and living fetus and drag the grasped portion out of the uterus into the vagina. Id., at 61. Dr. Carhart uses the traction created by the opening between the uterus and vagina to dismember the fetus, tearing the grasped portion away from the remainder of the body. Ibid. The traction between the uterus and vagina is essential to the procedure because attempting to abort a fetus without using that traction is described by Dr. Carhart as “pulling the cat’s tail” or “drag[ging] a string across the floor, you’ll just keep dragging it. It’s not until something grabs the other end that you are going to develop traction.” Id., at 62. The fetus, in many cases, dies just as a human adult or child would: It bleeds to death as it is torn from limb from limb. Id., at 63. The fetus can be alive at the beginning of the dismemberment process and can survive for a time while its limbs are being torn off. Dr. Carhart agreed that “[w]hen you pull out a piece of the fetus, let’s say, an arm or a leg and remove that, at the time just prior to removal of the portion of the fetus, … the fetus [is] alive.” Id., at 62. Dr. Carhart has observed fetal heartbeat via ultrasound with “extensive parts of the fetus removed,” id., at 64, and testified that mere dismemberment of a limb does not always cause death because he knows of a physician who removed the arm of a fetus only to have the fetus go on to be born “as a living child with one arm.” Id., at 63. At the conclusion of a D&E abortion no intact fetus remains. In Dr. Carhart’s words, the abortionist is left with “a tray full of pieces.” Id., at 125.

The other procedure implicated today is called “partial-birth abortion” or the D&X. The D&X can be used, as a general matter, after 19 weeks gestation because the fetus has become so developed that it may survive intact partial delivery from the uterus into the vagina. Id., at 61. In the D&X, the abortionist initiates the woman’s natural delivery process by causing the cervix of the woman to be dilated, sometimes over a sequence of days. Id., at 492. The fetus’ arms and legs are delivered outside the uterus while the fetus is alive; witnesses to the procedure report seeing the body of the fetus moving outside the woman’s body. Brief for Petitioners 4. At this point, the abortion procedure has the appearance of a live birth. As stated by one group of physicians, “[a]s the physician manually performs breech extraction of the body of a live fetus, excepting the head, she continues in the apparent role of an obstetrician delivering a child.” Brief for Association of American Physicians and Surgeons et al. as Amici Curiae 27. With only the head of the fetus remaining in utero, the abortionist tears open the skull. According to Dr. Martin Haskell, a leading proponent of the procedure, the appropriate instrument to be used at this stage of the abortion is a pair of scissors. M. Haskell, Dilation and Extraction for Late Second Trimester Abortion (1992), in 139 Cong. Rec. 8605 (1993). Witnesses report observing the portion of the fetus outside the woman react to the skull penetration. Brief for Petitioners 4. The abortionist then inserts a suction tube and vacuums out the developing brain and other matter found within the skull. The process of making the size of the fetus’ head smaller is given the clinically neutral term “reduction procedure.” 11 F. Supp. 2d 1099, 1106 (Neb. 1998). Brain death does not occur until after the skull invasion, and, according to Dr. Carhart, the heart of the fetus may continue to beat for minutes after the contents of the skull are vacuumed out. App. 58. The abortionist next completes the delivery of a dead fetus, intact except for the damage to the head and the missing contents of the skull.

Of the two described procedures, Nebraska seeks only to ban the D&X. In light of the description of the D&X procedure, it should go without saying that Nebraska’s ban on partial-birth abortion furthers purposes States are entitled to pursue. Dr. Carhart nevertheless maintains the State has no legitimate interest in forbidding the D&X. As he interprets the controlling cases in this Court, the only two interests the State may advance through regulation of abortion are in the health of the woman who is considering the procedure and in the life of the fetus she carries. Brief for Respondent 45. The Court, as I read its opinion, accedes to his views, misunderstanding Casey and the authorities it confirmed.”

I know the above is long, but this man needs to be exposed.


9 posted on 06/10/2009 7:06:22 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Don Corleone
Explain 'medically indicated'.

"Gee,ya know,I'm just not ready.I was hoping to go to school or maybe..."

10 posted on 06/10/2009 7:06:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: lastchance

I couldn’t finish reading your post - it was making me sick to my stomach. How barbaric!


11 posted on 06/10/2009 7:14:55 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Hawk720

Dr. LeRoy Carhart

I wouldn't want him touching me!

12 posted on 06/10/2009 7:17:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: KoRn

I am sure he will travel with some well trained and well armed body guards.


13 posted on 06/10/2009 7:22:38 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: kcvl

Looks like a scumbag. Dr. Bernard Nathanson once said that the abortion industry attracts scum. It’s like giving a serial killer a legal license to kill. I don’t think normal people, the type with consciences, could kill fully formed babies and still look at themselves in the mirror every morning. Takes a special form of low-life to perfom that type of ‘service’.


14 posted on 06/10/2009 7:31:22 PM PDT by constitutiongirl ("Duty is ours. Consequences are God's."- General Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Anyone that has had a premature baby knows it’s murder.

Amen. My son was born at 31-1/2 weeks and weighed a little over 3 pounds.

Why anyone would "choose" an abortion that late in the game...is incredibly selfish, insane, on drugs, or all of the above.

15 posted on 06/10/2009 7:37:03 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: kcvl; Hawk720

Another serial killer on the loose, will they ever learn???


16 posted on 06/10/2009 7:45:16 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Don Corleone

No such thing. Most docs can perform an emergency C-section in a matter of minutes. Happens all the time. Baby and mom are usually fine.

Don’t want the baby? No problem. Anyone ever heard of adoption?


17 posted on 06/10/2009 7:57:29 PM PDT by Sunbunny
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To: Don Corleone

The patient is able to pay cash.


18 posted on 06/10/2009 8:28:53 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Hawk720

What a noble man.


19 posted on 06/10/2009 8:41:31 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: KoRn

I hope his insurance is NOT paid up. Anyone who does these things does so with some level of approval or looking the other way by family who financially benefits from murdering babies. Why should we give two hoots in hell how this scummy family does when someone busts a cap on old Leroy?

I hope the worst for the Tillers and Leroy’s bunch.


20 posted on 06/10/2009 8:42:21 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: Hawk720; lastchance
it isnt funny (this time) but this sounds like the classic case of 'what do you call the guy who graduated last in medical school?'
'Doctor'
21 posted on 06/10/2009 8:55:10 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: machogirl

Liberals regard infanticide as a sacrament.


22 posted on 06/11/2009 12:13:53 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

i guess that’s the reason for the “savior” reference.


23 posted on 06/11/2009 1:38:20 AM PDT by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: Hawk720

That’s a great way to avenge a colleague’s murder, murder some more.


24 posted on 06/11/2009 6:14:22 AM PDT by I Hate Obama (Just remember - if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off.)
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To: trumandogz

I heard, from a very reliable source, that he, his wife, and daughter, are going to apply for concealed carry.


25 posted on 06/11/2009 8:40:28 AM PDT by peridot
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