Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US deputy warns 72-year-old woman 5 times before shocking her with Taser
Yahoo news ^ | June 10 | Jim Vertuno

Posted on 06/10/2009 7:28:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF.

AUSTIN, Texas - A 72-year-old woman who refused to sign her speeding ticket got out of her truck and dared a deputy to shock her with a Taser.

So he did. Video released by a Travis County Constable's Office shows Kathryn Winkfein hitting the ground and moaning while the shocks jolted through her body after the May 11 confrontation with Travis County Sheriff's Deputy Chris Bieze.

Winkfein was stopped for driving 60 mph (96 kilometre) in a 45-mph (72-kilometre) zone just west of Austin. A dashboard camera in the deputy's car shows the 4-foot-11 (1.5 metres) Winkfein refusing to sign her speeding ticket, getting out of her white pickup truck and cursing at the deputy constable.

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; billayersfans; deservedit; donutwatch; taser
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-106 next last
I suppose the usual crowd will come out and say that the cop over reacted, brutalized this woman, etc. etc.

Well, judge the video for yourself, but in this case, that crowd would be right.

1 posted on 06/10/2009 7:28:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
You have your basic 72 year old woman. Her behavior might well be a symptom of some serious cardiovascular problems.

Best to not fire her up just in case she dies. This cop was lucky ~ but next time, "crispy critter".

2 posted on 06/10/2009 7:29:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
Was it this Grandma???
3 posted on 06/10/2009 7:30:10 PM PDT by jakerobins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Oh, dear.


4 posted on 06/10/2009 7:30:59 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
“Don't tase me, sonny!”
5 posted on 06/10/2009 7:31:18 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

“I dare you to Taze me!” “Okay.”

She did ask for it.


6 posted on 06/10/2009 7:31:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
this woman is 72 years old. how old is the cop?

junor needs to get a new job
7 posted on 06/10/2009 7:33:13 PM PDT by Charlespg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

.


8 posted on 06/10/2009 7:33:15 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
She did ask for it.

and not just once but five times!

9 posted on 06/10/2009 7:33:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Both actors in the event were a-holes.


10 posted on 06/10/2009 7:34:07 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
Tasering a 72 year old in anything but the most desperate of situations is very risky,lawsuit-wise.One of these days such an elder is gonna have a heart attack or stroke while being tasered and the cop doing it and the police force that employs him/her will be up a creek without a viable means of propulsion.
11 posted on 06/10/2009 7:35:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Bum scene for granny. She should have followed his direction. Then again, maybe she suffers from Obamaitis, a condition that prevents one from making wise decisions.


12 posted on 06/10/2009 7:35:40 PM PDT by South40 (Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. ~Hussein Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Look at the video,,,its pretty clear she was not acting that way because she was suffering from cardio issues. In fact, she was suffering from repeatedly scuffling with the cop a foot from the white line. Traffic was whizzing right by.

She was doing this because she was an obnoxious loudmouth 29 year old in 1967. Not all old people are nice Aunt Bea.

All her fault, she had all the warning you could ask for.


13 posted on 06/10/2009 7:36:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: glock rocks; tubebender; Pete-R-Bilt; SouthTexas

Hot Babe ping in #3...


14 posted on 06/10/2009 7:37:55 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (BG x 2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

I wonder if the deputy had not had the taser, what would he had done? It is obvious that he was not in any danger from a 72-yr old woman. I think cops are finding it far to easy to taser nowadays. This cop was far too quick on the draw and should be disciplined, imho.


15 posted on 06/10/2009 7:39:03 PM PDT by rawhide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #16 Removed by Moderator

To: DesertRhino
All her fault, she had all the warning you could ask for.

LOL.

I usually catch hell for defending cops in similar scenes, but I do believe he had other alternatives besides zapping her with a stun gun.

17 posted on 06/10/2009 7:40:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

Yeah,, and if she got onto the highway again and got hit by a pickup whizing by at 55mph, what would you be saying? And if they both got killed when some car skids into them as she is being obnoxious on the side of the road? If she gets an osteoporosis bone broke as he wrestles her into cuffs,,thats all cool?

Look at the video, she was shoving her way around him, a foot from the road. And you dont get heart attacks from a taser.


18 posted on 06/10/2009 7:41:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
Give up the license to police!

It's safer to electrocute grandma with a taser, and drop her on the pavement, because handcuffing her could have injured her.

Besides, Grandma was a threat to the officer even though he was twice her size.

19 posted on 06/10/2009 7:43:36 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino
Everytime I watch the video I see a loud mouthed woman that has used her sex to bully her way and then complain that she is a woman...an old woman...a 72 year old woman and then disrespect the LEO. She was arrogant and combative. The LEO would be in trouble if he'd let her go; he'd be in trouble if she'd walked into traffic; if he'd physically restrained her and bruised her or broke a brittle bone; this LEO was screwed with almost every scenario out there. Did you see the woman lie about the incident until it hit the news? She denied it all...vindictive b....h...
20 posted on 06/10/2009 7:44:07 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

It was a traffic ticket!

Write the ticket and send her on her way.


21 posted on 06/10/2009 7:45:13 PM PDT by Outrance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brad's Gramma
Hot Babe ping in #3...

That's a guy dressed up like a sheila!

22 posted on 06/10/2009 7:45:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino

I doubt you’ll ever qualify for a position in a retirement village ~ maybe in one of those Florida hospices that starves the handicapped .......


23 posted on 06/10/2009 7:45:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

The woman was 4’11” ~ nearly a dwarf.


24 posted on 06/10/2009 7:45:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative
Shhhhhhhh........don't say anything. I'm trying to help some guy friends of mine. :) :)
25 posted on 06/10/2009 7:46:06 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (BG x 2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: rawhide

He would have wrestled her into coffs, and she woulda had a wrenched shoulder socket, a broken wrist, etc from her squirming against him like she was. Taser kept the idiot woman FROM getting hurt.

And no, she may not have been a lethal threat in one sense, but on the side of the road like that, MANY times another car smashes into them and kills people. THAT is a reason he was endangered by her resistance. That is too dangerous of a place to let her foolishness go on and on.

Watch the video.


26 posted on 06/10/2009 7:46:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Despite the cop’s actions, I find it hard to fault him for giving her exactly what she was asking for, nay, demanding.


27 posted on 06/10/2009 7:47:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

It was a lose/lose situation for the cop.

I suppose that he could have called for back up.

I could give him one taze out of sheer frustration, but 5?

I dunno about that.


28 posted on 06/10/2009 7:47:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

The LEO was lucky she wasn’t Gay or Black or he’d really have some legal trouble.


29 posted on 06/10/2009 7:47:50 PM PDT by Outrance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino
And you dont get heart attacks from a taser.

And you're a graduate of *which* medical school?

30 posted on 06/10/2009 7:47:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug
if he'd physically restrained her and bruised her or broke a brittle bone

So electrocute grandma with a taser gun, dropping her onto the concrete like a sack of potatoes...

Good thinking!!

Everyone at the police academy is applauding!

31 posted on 06/10/2009 7:48:55 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
She did ask for it.

That's correct she dissed a cop, beat down in order. I guess a good stomping would have really tripped your trigger.

32 posted on 06/10/2009 7:49:07 PM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Brad's Gramma

Well at least it wasn’t Helen Thomas!


33 posted on 06/10/2009 7:50:08 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Waterboard Pelosi NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Like what? When he grabbed her arm to cuff her, she twisted away and started to try to push back to get in her truck and leave. The whole time they were 2 seconds away from getting run over by one of those cars whizzing by.

Just my opinion. But i dont really care to much, my mom is 79, and it wont ever happen to her. She has manners enough to sign a ticket and take it to court.


34 posted on 06/10/2009 7:50:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
BITCH SLAP Pictures, Images and Photos guess grannie just wasn't taught how to act like a lady....
35 posted on 06/10/2009 7:51:21 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Outrance

She refused to sign, after it was explained that it was not an admission of guilt. Then she headed for the truck to leave. An old man in our town did that and the cops let him. He came out with a 38 blazing.


36 posted on 06/10/2009 7:52:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Hahahaha true! I can see them as the rude person they once were. Really its kind of beautiful of me.


37 posted on 06/10/2009 7:53:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

I saw the video. The woman was being a jerk. She was warned five times to comply.

I support the cop. I don’t care if you’re 17 or 72. You obey a cop at a traffic stop.


38 posted on 06/10/2009 7:54:52 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Charlespg
Scenereo after scenereo places this LEO in a bad situation:

Physical restraint results in significant injuries

Failure to restrain results in granny being pulverized by passing car

Passive restraint (continuing with verbal commands) results in both getting pulverized by passing vehicle

Tasering results in second guessing by Monday morning quaterbacks

All this B*tch needed to do was sign the ticket, which is nothing more than a promise to appear in court. She admitted she was speeding. She believed she had a right to act as she did despite putting herself and other people in potential harms way. Sorry, no sympathy from me for bad behavior which resulted in her own derived outcome. Age is not an excuse to act the way she did.

39 posted on 06/10/2009 7:55:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.
At the rate this is going, I see an entrepreneurial opportunity for Faraday Cage clothing.

Might as well throw in doggy body armor.

40 posted on 06/10/2009 7:55:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

Austin is the most liberal place in all of Texas.


41 posted on 06/10/2009 7:57:18 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

The cop overreacted. He lost control of the situation.


42 posted on 06/10/2009 7:57:34 PM PDT by Ikemeister
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino
Don't be silly. People die from cardiac arrest caused by tasers all the time. Take a few minutes and do a www.google.com search for "taser" "death".

Become enlightened.

43 posted on 06/10/2009 7:57:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

I’m older than that old lady, and I’m with you. The cop was doing what he had to do. And I saw part of her side of the story. Not only is she a pushy old dame, using her sex and age to intimidate, but she is a liar. No sympathy from me.


44 posted on 06/10/2009 8:01:14 PM PDT by Exit148 (a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad
All this B*tch needed to do was sign the ticket,

The ticket was to be for speeding in a construction zone on a rural Texas highway.

I'm about on my last nerve myself about these things. They slow you down to 45 mph two miles before and after you see any signs of construction, squeeze you into a tiny lane, and then when you get to where the "construction" supposedly is, there's one guy leaning on his shovel watching three guys in an orange pickup taking a nap.

45 posted on 06/10/2009 8:01:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Recovering_Democrat
You obey a cop at a traffic stop

True..............but,

The cop made a couple of mistakes here, IMHO. such as:

1) He asked her to get out of the car. After that he lost control of the situation.

2) He tased her after she finally complied. She was on the ground as he had asked. At that ppoint, he should not have tased her.

For those talking about the trafic whizing by, he was always between her and the traffic, except for one brief moment.

Yes, the woman was a AA rude Bitch, but the cop was wrong to tase her.

46 posted on 06/10/2009 8:01:54 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: vetvetdoug

I’m older than that old lady, and I’m with you. The cop was doing what he had to do. And I saw part of her side of the story. Not only is she a pushy old dame, using her sex and age to intimidate, but she is a liar. No sympathy from me.

And about the ticket — didn’t she refuse it?


47 posted on 06/10/2009 8:03:04 PM PDT by Exit148 (a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Charlespg
this woman is 72 years old

Yes only 17 years younger than the shooter at the Holocaust Museum.

48 posted on 06/10/2009 8:05:26 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino

Is it against the law to refuse to sign the ticket?

So what, one has proof she got it on tape.


49 posted on 06/10/2009 8:05:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Ikemeister

Exactly.


50 posted on 06/10/2009 8:07:31 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-106 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson