Skip to comments.Doctorsí Group Opposes Public Insurance Plan
Posted on 06/10/2009 8:02:42 PM PDT by Nachum
WASHINGTON As the health care debate heats up, the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.
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The AMA has no clout whatsoever.
AMA is in the pocket now of the private insurers?
That’s going to be news to their membership.
My father is a physician, and very conservative. He was formerly a member of the AMA and donated quite a bit of money to their PAC over the years. He left the AMA a number of years ago when they started supporting abortion and other liberal agenda items.
If the AMA is actually opposing the public health insurance option, then it must be pretty bad, because the AMA is pretty liberal these days. Alone, this isn’t earth shattering, but it’s good news for our side, IMO.
I’ll be watching for the demonization, if 0bama et al feel it is necessary, of greedy doctors who will be portrayed as only one notch less greedy than those Wall St. ba***rds who got us into this mess.
I agree with you. The AMA has long had liberal leanings. I think it the American Physcians and Surgeons that support conservative causes.
“The introduction of a new public plan threatens to restrict patient choice by driving out private insurers, which currently provide coverage for nearly 70 percent of Americans.
Translation: HMOs with their executive pay, advertising, etc. costs cannot compete in a free market with government.
How many AMA honchos are sitting on HMO boards, hold HMO shares?
It’s about time they spoke out.
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This is good. Right? I thought the AMA had good lobbyists.
Going back to my mantra . . . we need the 17th Amendment Repealed.
Not that it would solve ALL our problems, but it would solve about half of them.
Read Article 1, Section 3 of the US Constitution.
It wasn’t doctors or lawyers or indians or chiefs who got us in this mess. It’s the bankers behind the Central Bank.
0bambi is just their “puppet du jour.” And he’s so narcissistic that he’s totally unaware. The little twit.
Too little, too late from this bunch as many if not most supported His Majesty - at least financially.
“This is good. Right?”
What they are offering is Romneycare, making sure everyone is insured by criminalizing the uninsured. It’s a liberal/private insurer alliance.
Some want the “government option” too. Basically something like Medicare expanded. But HMOs cannot compete, their business models are too costly.
This article basically admits that, though the AMA tries to make it sound like an issue of fairness.
“But we absolutely oppose government control of health care decisions or mandatory physician participation in any insurance plan.
Its about time we hear things like this coming out of this org. Normally they are dem a$$ kissers!
Yep. And docs are not going to fight it. They are too few in number, and the GOP turned tail at the first sign of battle the last time docs tried. I hope docs wise up and unionize.
NONSENSE--show me the numbers. Lefty docs are the ones trying to anything to escape having to practice medicine.
Big news sort of, every interest group (doctors, insurers, unions, AARP, etc.) has been lobbying behind closed doors with the Kennedy caucus and Baucus to get their share of the pie.
I’m glad the AMA has finally said something publicly, but it is significant because TOTUS is planning to address/pressure the AMA in an event this Monday. Otherwise, I doubt we’d hear much from AMA until hard decisions on the exact legislation are reached.
“I hope you enjoy your new GMO”
Got a ways to go until Medicare.
But most I know are glad to get into it. More freedom of choice of doctors.
The AMA sucks!!!!
"AMA resuscitates itself"
They seem to have finally "come to".
Looks like some freepers on this thread have unwittingly gone along with this silky-smooth description by repeating it.
Why not call this poison pill what it really is.....Socialized Medicine or Forced National Health Care.
WHOA. HUGE news. The AMA had been generally supportive and otherwise staying on the sidelines.
Conservative doctors long ago left this group and the ones who stayed either didn't care one way or another or were in line with the leftist thinking.
All you need to do to find "proof" in what I say, is go to the leftist candidates and see just how much is donated to them and their pet PACs by the AMA.
AMA really supports doctors the way that AARP really is on the side of the elderly.
Can’t imagine why.
Maybe the doctors should strike. That seems to work for the unions and it would get congress’s attention, and might even wake up the emperor with no clothes.
It’s all socialized medicine that is being contemplated The Republicans are sponsoring socialized medicine. The “Private Insurer” with its bureaucracies and executive costs is just another layer of costs in this socialized medicine bill. They want you to think it is not “socialized” because they want to keep their cut and increase their cut, so they play on terms like “private.” They are partners with the government in this. The Republicans that I hear are not objecting to socialized medicine, but that they want to keep the unneeded costs of executives, bureaucracies, etc. of the insurers in the socialized medicine framework.
The main thing for the AMA is to protect the doctors pay, by controlling the number of medical schools and the number of students. If you want better and more affordable medicine, triple the number of doc’s. Competition is a good thing!!!
Bend over. (And yes, this one is gonna hurt.)
That is why Obama is now getting to the issue of pay. Its not wallstreet pay its the Health Industry pay. You watch how the will frame this issue.
We need Gov health care due to Insurance company and doctor greed.
I would get a second opinion.
I don’t think he will. I never thought he was sincere about the “government option”. Most of them are in the pockets of the insurers.
BTW, he was never sincere about “Wall Street Pay” either.
Triple the number of docs and you can have the last one that got into medical school operate on you...Moron....
If the AMA doctors will not play ball, 0 will just have doctors from off shore brought in to man his clinics.
Good! Now they should mention that most Dr’s who are within 10 years of retirement just might do it early. Since there aren’t enough Doctors already to cover an extra 40 million having even fewer ought to really be good.
Look up docs in your yellow pages and check out the number of foreign ones.
I once had a doctor bring in an intern to "assist" in his examination. The doctor actually left the room and let the intern proceed. Interestingly enough, I was totally unable to understand the guy (either PAK or other)so that the doctor had to "take over" up on his return.
I felt that I should have only been charged 1/2 for visit as the doc had intended letting his "help" do the office visit for him, of course, no such luck!
What they are is WEAK. Weak in numbers and in clout. They supported the GOP, and the GOP won't ever stand up for a constituency if it means they won't get approval and invitations to DC cocktail parties. Even Newt hung private medicine out to dry--making believe that some penny ante fraud was at the hear of increased medical expense. They can't save you from Obamacare.
LOL. Well, you're going to have even less say in the future. The bills will be paid directly out of your paycheck.
Didn’t say AMA was a Pac but rather that they donate to liberals PACs.
I get weary from people fluttering their hospitalization bills in front of my nose complaining of the high cost of doctors, when the "doctor bill" is such a small part of the cost of a surgical/treatment at their hospitals. If you have a gall bladder taken out, look at the actual charge from the surgeon. It is a very small part of the total bill. Mostly you are paying to support the infrastructure, not the MD.
You didn't say anything that was documented, specific or accountable. 'Nuff said.
It is a tragedy, a horror, to have all this skillful experience driven into retirement.
I’m surprised that leftist group is coming out against anything the one proposes. I left the AMA after medical school when I found out how far left they are. They make Chrissy Matthews look positively conservative.
Aint that the truth. Quantity does not equal quality. We have enough quality problems with some of the people getting into medical school now. The best and the brightest are wising up and not going into medicine where they will delay their earnings by several years, be regulated to death, and relatively underpaid compared to other professionals and even some skilled trades.
I will be one of them
Government Hospital Admission: Are you a Democrat? Yes, go to the front of the ten year line and wait for care. Are you a Republican? Just die already and give us all your money.
There that about sums it up.
You know what they call the guy who finished last in his class in medical school? (Doctor) Scary, isn’t it.