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Vitamin C helps stop diabetes damage
Times of India ^ | 10 Jun 2009 | NA

Posted on 06/10/2009 8:34:47 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON: Harold Hamm Oklahoma Diabetes Center researchers have found a link between taking vitamin C with insulin and stopping blood vessel damage caused by type 1 diabetes.

While neither therapy produced desired results when used alone, the combination of insulin to control blood sugar together with the use of Vitamin C, stopped blood vessel damage caused by the disease in patients with poor glucose control, said researchers.

The findings appear this week in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

"We had tested this theory on research models, but this is the first time anyone has shown the therapy's effectiveness in people," said Michael Ihnat, Ph.D., principal investigator and a pharmacologist at the OU College of Medicine Department of Cell Biology.

Ihnat said they are now studying the therapy in patients with Type 2 diabetes.

The goal of the work being done by Ihnat and British scientists from the University of Warwick led by Dr. Antonio Ceriello is to find a way to stop the damage to blood vessels that is caused by diabetes. The damage, known as endothelial dysfunction, is associated with most forms of cardiovascular disease such as hypertension, coronary artery disease, chronic heart failure, peripheral artery disease, diabetes and chronic renal failure.

By reducing or stopping the damage, patients with diabetes could avoid some of the painful and fatal consequences of the disease that include heart disease, reduced circulation and amputation, kidney disease and diabetic retinopathy, which can lead to blindness.

Insulin and many other drugs have long been used to control blood sugar, but Ihnat - in an earlier project with scientists in Italy and Hungary - found that cells have a "memory" that causes damage to continue even when blood sugar is controlled. By adding antioxidants like Vitamin C, Ihnat found that cell "memory" disappeared and cell function and oxidation stress were normalized.

"We have speculated that this happens with endothelial dysfunction, but we did not know until now if it was effective in humans. We finally were able to test it and proved it to be true," Ihnat said.

"For patients with diabetes, this means simply getting their glucose under control is not enough. An antioxidant-based therapy combined with glucose control will give patients more of an advantage and lessen the chance of complications with diabetes," the expert added.

While researchers do suggest diabetic patients eat foods and take multivitamins rich in antioxidants like Vitamin C, they warn that additional study is needed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: diabetes; type1diabetes; vasculardisease; vitaminc
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Long-term glycemic control influences the long-lasting effect of hyperglycemia on endothelial function in type 1 diabetes

Endothelial cells are the cells that line the inside of your blood vessels in contact with your blood.

The "Metabolic Memory": Is More Than Just Tight Glucose Control Necessary to Prevent Diabetic Complications?

1 posted on 06/10/2009 8:34:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Great news. Now if nerve & other types of damage can just be fixed.


2 posted on 06/10/2009 8:41:07 PM PDT by combat_boots ("(We) must ...resist... those who would subjugate others to serve (my) interests." 0bama 6/5/2009)
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3 posted on 06/10/2009 8:42:17 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Almost in before the ping!


4 posted on 06/10/2009 8:42:55 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Save the Hispaniolan Solenodon!)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

ping for you


5 posted on 06/10/2009 8:44:20 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (Dum spiramus tuebimur - "While We Have Breath, We Will Defend")
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To: combat_boots

ping for later


6 posted on 06/10/2009 8:44:22 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (We can't control the wind... but we can adjust the sails.)
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To: combat_boots

Especially the damage to one’s nerves caused by the mother-in-law who cannot keep her mouth shut.....


7 posted on 06/10/2009 9:01:30 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: misterrob

LMAO


8 posted on 06/10/2009 9:06:40 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Blue Jays
"...While neither therapy produced desired results when used alone, the combination of insulin to control blood sugar together with the use of Vitamin C, stopped blood vessel damage caused by the disease in patients with poor glucose control, said researchers..."


Did they seriously get Type 1 diabetics to halt taking insulin to see how a control group only taking Vitamin C would do?
This would be in comparson to a group only taking insulin and a third group combining both insulin and Vitamin C supplementation?
That approach seems crazy to me.

9 posted on 06/10/2009 9:10:18 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: combat_boots
Great news. Now if nerve & other types of damage can just be fixed.

One aspect of diabetic neuropathy stems from a change in the flexibility of the cell wall in erythrocytes (red blood cells). In diabetes, the red blood cell wall becomes "stiff". That prevents the cell from deforming sufficiently to squeeze through the very narrow capillaries at the tips of the fingers and toes. Over time, the causes oxygen starvation to those areas. Nerve damage and numbness shows up first. In time, the oxygen starved tissue dies. Amputation becomes necessary.

10 posted on 06/10/2009 9:10:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

Doctor, heal thyself!

Less treatment, more cure!


11 posted on 06/10/2009 10:37:47 PM PDT by petro45acp (Power corrupts! Why does hoi poloi insist on electing the corrupt?)
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To: neverdem; SnarlinCubBear

Please put me on the ping list. Thanks!


12 posted on 06/11/2009 5:05:09 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: neverdem

Just last month, researchers said that diabetics shouldn’t take C. At least, not if they exercise. Which they should, according to other studies. I probably missed the one that says they shouldn’t. Or maybe that’s coming out next month.

BOSTON, May 13 (UPI) — Taking antioxidants such as vitamins C and E may nullify the benefit of exercise to reduce the risk of diabetes, U.S. researchers suggest. (snip)”If you are exercising, in part, to reduce diabetes risk, you shouldn’t take vitamin C and E...” http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/05/13/Vitamins-C-E-may-block-exercise-benefit/UPI-74541242247627/

Since I don’t have diabetes, I can laugh. Til I think of the people I know who do have it and hang on every word of the grant-chasers. Then this stuff just makes me mad.


13 posted on 06/11/2009 5:42:41 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: neverdem
I am a huge proponent of Vit C and I discovered it's benefits quite by accident. I have spent many hours reading about Vit C. Some reports where they claim that Vit C is of little value have been found to have used very low levels and then pronounced it ineffective.

Large doses can be very beneficial and even intravenous Vit C in very large doses have saved lives and eased pain.

I am an enthusiastic user and at my age, I have been insured preferred. The last EKG that was taken, the technician asked what I do--that my heart was as better than that of some 28 year olds she has done.

14 posted on 06/11/2009 9:00:30 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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To: Myrddin

I would recommend researching intravenous Vit C before I would do amputation.


15 posted on 06/11/2009 9:01:37 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The question is - how much is enough and how do you guard against overdosing?


16 posted on 06/11/2009 9:02:32 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You should combine NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) and Vitamin C, very powerful, NAC is an amino Acid, take three times as much Vitamin C as NAC on an empty stomach, excellent.


17 posted on 06/11/2009 9:04:11 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: reagan_fanatic
My understanding is there is no such thing as overdosing. The body gets rid of it through the urine but a way to determine the amount one needs is to gradually increase the dosage until you get diarrhea, then cut back. That is how much you need.

I don't do that and never have because I have never been that ill but I do take 2 grams each am and 2 grams each PM.

Vitamin C can be an amazing pain reliever. If you have an ache or pain, take Vit C until it stops.

Vit C and castor oil have been all I've needed for sciatica. Vit. C helped heal a very sore injured shoulder. I am a firm believer.

Many years ago, I used it to cure my RA and the RA was confirmed more than once with blood tests.

18 posted on 06/11/2009 9:08:11 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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To: Scythian

What is the value of the NAC? I can google it.


19 posted on 06/11/2009 9:09:15 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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To: misterrob

That kind of damage is irreversible.


20 posted on 06/11/2009 9:10:29 AM PDT by El Sordo
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