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Weekly Standard (Conservative Magazine) may have been shooter (Von Brunn) target
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Posted on 06/11/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by mnehring

FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address

A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.

The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.

The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.


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To: drubyfive

“Kind of like Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ?”

I’ve never seen that.

The (most common) Jewish belief is that Christianity is a fine -— nay, the finest -— Noahdic religion for a non-Jew to have.

The basic morals and preaching of Christianity are wonderful, and fully in-tune with Jewish ideals.

The worship of the G-d of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob is similarly wonderful.


101 posted on 06/11/2009 1:28:11 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SolidWood

Where did you discover he’s a self-proclaimed socialist? Thanks in advance:)


102 posted on 06/11/2009 1:31:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ResistorSister
"Do you think the government will show the video from the Holocaust Museum’s exterior surveillance cameras of the 90 year old man getting out of his car with a ‘long gun’ — and the video that would show him shuffling down the sidewalk as he made his way to the museum’s entrance?"

Only if it makes the JOOOOOOOZ look bad.

103 posted on 06/11/2009 1:34:03 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: SE Mom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2269560/posts


104 posted on 06/11/2009 1:34:14 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: piasa

Nice spelling, eh?


105 posted on 06/11/2009 1:34:36 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: SE Mom

“Where did you discover he’s a self-proclaimed socialist?”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35192

among many other articles.

Direct quote from the shooter “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”

Reminds me of this quote:

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

-— Adolf Hitler


106 posted on 06/11/2009 1:36:09 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
My point was that Dialectical Materialism was an outgrowth of various schools of thought coming out of the Enlightenment and has nothing to do with Satanism.
107 posted on 06/11/2009 1:38:29 PM PDT by Borges
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To: cake_crumb

Sorry, I don’t get your joke.


108 posted on 06/11/2009 1:39:24 PM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: ResistorSister

It wasn’t a joke. Heard much about this from the insidious Obama? “The government” won’t show anything unless it makes the JOOOOOZ (that’s us) look bad.


109 posted on 06/11/2009 1:45:22 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: cake_crumb

correct


110 posted on 06/11/2009 1:46:31 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: cake_crumb

Do you have a link to the quote?


111 posted on 06/11/2009 1:53:25 PM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: cake_crumb
Ha, no, that was a pretty damned good smackdown.

Not really meant that way, just pointing out that there's no reason for Jews to want Christians to renounce Christ, thus there aren't any.

112 posted on 06/11/2009 1:53:38 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: ResistorSister

What quote?


113 posted on 06/11/2009 1:57:21 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: icwhatudo

Haven’t really been following it too much, but I would like to know where the links are to what you are saying, so I can prove one of my friends on Facebook wrong. Especially about his pagan beliefs and Christian hating.

A liberal friend of mine posted on Facebook the following, and I want to show her up.

“I am more concerned with the threat from the Christian-identity groups than the homegrown Islamic terrorists. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. The fact that this guy did what he did may be symptomatic of things to come. - Maria Haberfeld, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, on yesterday’s shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. I say amen to that!!”


114 posted on 06/11/2009 1:57:41 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: manc

“notice how the left/media do not mention that the shooter is left wing or he is a registered Democrat.

like many on the left they are driven by hate and intolerance”

Listened to Dave Ross commentary on WCBS radio today effectively associating Free Republic with Nazis and the white supremacist movement.


115 posted on 06/11/2009 1:59:20 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: SJackson

Right: if it’s not anti-Semtic for Christians to want Jews to accept Christ, then it can’t be anti_Christian for Jews to want Christians to renounce Christ. Considering the current state of US-Israel relations, it seemed like a good reply.


116 posted on 06/11/2009 2:00:38 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: nina0113

Well, sure, but the stress is one hell of a lot lower. And then he got shot, too, which he certainly must have expected, but lived. I’m a good bit younger than 88 but just the shock of geeting shot might kill me even if the wound itself didn’t.


117 posted on 06/11/2009 2:04:23 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: americanophile; nutmeg; justiceseeker93
The term "neo-cons" as a euphemism for JEWS is used by the extreme left and the extreme so-called right.

Maybe if Bill O'Reilly wants to do something purposeful, he can have his people scour the left-wing websites for angry references to "neo-cons" as the source of some push for war and support of Israel.

The new anti-semitism says "neo-cons" and "zionists" instead of Jews.

The new anti-semitism equates Israeli soldiers with nazis:

The new anti-semitism marginalizes Jews who are politically conservative by suggesting that their loyalties are not with America.

G-d should please protect and keep safe our holy brother.

118 posted on 06/11/2009 2:05:48 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: RatsDawg

Be glad to send it later tonight. For now Google his name and the quotes I mentioned to find them.

I’ll update my list with clickable links. Many of us are on other site where we do “battle” and I know how important this info is.


119 posted on 06/11/2009 2:11:52 PM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: RatsDawg
You've had multiple attacks and attempted attacks from prison converts, going back to the shoe bomber. There's no indication yet that this guy was a Christian Identity member, but even if you lump CI and neonazis together, there are a limited number of incidents, with the CI connection at best tangential. I agree there's a disaster waiting to happen out there, you can always check back with her in 6 months, you'll have an answer then. Or if perchance she's a liberal with global conscience, check back in 6 weeks and compare global attacks by Muslims with attacks by neonazis. The likelihood is you’ll be comparing mayhem with a few cemetery and Synagogue desecrations. That’s not to say these people shouldn’t be condemned, but it’s not necessary to ignore a real threat to life to do that. Tell her she can condemn both, it’s easy. In many ways they’re the sides of a coin.
120 posted on 06/11/2009 2:11:55 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: cake_crumb
Right: if it’s not anti-Semtic for Christians to want Jews to accept Christ, then it can’t be anti_Christian for Jews to want Christians to renounce Christ. Considering the current state of US-Israel relations, it seemed like a good reply.

You misunderstood. It not antisemitic for Christians to evangelize. My point was that there simply aren't Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ as was suggested. There's no reason to since the righteous have a place in the world beyond, whether Jewish, or Christian or Muslim, pretty much anyone other than idolators.

121 posted on 06/11/2009 2:17:57 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: mnehring

Have we figured out what VonBrunn’s FR screen name was yet?


122 posted on 06/11/2009 2:22:10 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Was it over when the Bugs nuked Buenos Aires? No!!)
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To: CholeraJoe

He wasn’t one.. antisemite racists wouldn’t last five seconds here.. Now DU he would be at home at.. just rant a little about Israel and Christians and they would make him a mod over there.


123 posted on 06/11/2009 2:24:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I remember complaining how much “neocon” reminded me of “Nazi”, and for obvious reasons took serious exception to that. I was told I was being over sensitive.


124 posted on 06/11/2009 2:26:21 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: mnehring
antisemite racists wouldn’t last five seconds here

You're so funny.

125 posted on 06/11/2009 2:31:24 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Was it over when the Bugs nuked Buenos Aires? No!!)
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To: SJackson
My point was that there simply aren't Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ as was suggested.

I think this is generally true, but not the point of an absolute as you state. I have met at least a few Jewish people who do urge particular Christians, their offspring, to renounce Christ.

126 posted on 06/11/2009 2:31:45 PM PDT by jabchae
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To: cake_crumb

I hear that. Then they try to list of people who aren’t Jewish that they say they call neo-cons just to try and prove they don’t mean it in an anti-semitic way.


127 posted on 06/11/2009 2:32:23 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks!


128 posted on 06/11/2009 2:32:33 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the insight! I will have to say something to her about it.


129 posted on 06/11/2009 2:33:27 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: SJackson
"It not antisemitic for Christians to evangelize. My point was that there simply aren't Jews who want Christians to renounce Christ as was suggested."

Um. WE know that. There would be no way ever that any Jew would proselytize to convert Christians to Judaism...but if you think about the original blaze comment in the context of this hate crime...it's insulting that anyone even thought it worth the effort of typing, let alone posting. What does conversion have to do with prejudice anyway?

The man walked in and shot another man dead, apparently at random. HE didn't know the man's religion, so conversion has nothing to do with it.

In context, since conversion had nothing to do with the crime, I found the comment insulting too.

130 posted on 06/11/2009 2:34:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"Then they try to list of people who aren’t Jewish that they say they call neo-cons just to try and prove they don’t mean it in an anti-semitic way."

The useful idiots. Look what we have pretending to run the country right now, and with amazingly high approval rates, considering his DIS-approval ratings. Marx, Trotsky and Lenin won after all.

131 posted on 06/11/2009 2:49:12 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: cake_crumb

beats Jihadaeic I suppose. :-)


132 posted on 06/11/2009 2:56:49 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: manc

He’s a Democrat?? For real??


133 posted on 06/11/2009 2:57:54 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Jewbacca; SolidWood

Thanks to you both- been super busy and am trying to catch up on this guy...


134 posted on 06/11/2009 3:11:17 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mnehring

But, the MSM is busy with their story about the shooter being a right wing whackjob.


135 posted on 06/11/2009 3:15:51 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("I don't call 911" -- Chuck Norris.)
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To: piasa
"beats Jihadaeic I suppose. :-)"

FOFLOL...I only caught it AFTER hitting "post", then started hitting the stop button like mad, but it was too late.

136 posted on 06/11/2009 3:29:58 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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To: icwhatudo

What’s the source on that?


137 posted on 06/11/2009 4:01:56 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (My country, right or wrong. But BOY...!)
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To: icwhatudo

I caught the ABC nightly news tonight only -please note- because it came on when I stopped the DVD I was watching.

There was a piece on white supremecists and how the FBI has been targeting them in light of the election of a black president etc.

Where was the ABC story about the threat of Black Muslims/thugs when black Muslims tried to bomb a Jewish center in NYC and when they successfully killed a soldier?


138 posted on 06/11/2009 4:36:01 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Borges

I’m not sure how Marx’s derivative philosophical concoctions, or the actual texts from which his lies were derived, preclude him from being a satanist. His philosphy was a ploy designed to manipulate the masses and enslave the human race. And 100 years later, it’s still working.

If that’s not serving satan, nothing is.


139 posted on 06/11/2009 4:47:13 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: ataDude
He IS a Left Wing radical!

This Administration wants the general public to be afraid of Conservatives.. No one will dare challenge MAObama's Fascist agenda out of fear.. they HOPE.
140 posted on 06/11/2009 5:05:25 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (There is no Far Right.. There is only Far Left.)
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To: jabchae
I think this is generally true, but not the point of an absolute as you state. I have met at least a few Jewish people who do urge particular Christians, their offspring, to renounce Christ.

This is the news forum, not the religion forum, so I don't want to belabor this. But surely you must understand that a Jewish apostate is different than a Christian, and that a Jew counceling a family member who has left the faith, for any religion, not just Christianity, as to the reprecussions is quite different that the statement I responded to, which was that Jews try to convince Christians to abandon Christ, or some such nonsense. I didn't bother to go back and quote it.

141 posted on 06/11/2009 5:14:31 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: headstamp 2

really

like Gandhi said
first they ignore you
they then make fun of you
they then attack you
then you win

A woman I thought I knew up there in NY city said that the republicans were Nazis, I then told her that you do know that the Nazis were left wing not right.

she told me no they were not and she knows as she is Jewish

Now if you understand that mentality then well done because I do not

like I said I thought I knew her


142 posted on 06/11/2009 5:43:41 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
like Gandhi said

first they ignore you
they then make fun of you
they then attack you
then you win

Great quote. Never seen that one before. It's gonna apply to FR even more these days if we step up our offensive to combat the media and rescue Sarah's reputation, too.

143 posted on 06/11/2009 5:48:47 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: amishman
That is a strange radio station overall.

I figure Don Curtis picked up a failed FM station for a song, made it FM talk. It's defineately a second tier for talkers. Curtis has RUSH/HANNITY/LEVIN on WPTF in Raleigh. The Burlington station carries into the Raleigh market.

Boortz and Savage are their heavyweights, but their local guys are not conservative at all.

I do enjoy the Dan Rather parody in the morning, they have it dead on.

144 posted on 06/11/2009 6:21:46 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: ataDude

Where can I read that he was a registered Democrat? Interesting. I’m kinda out of it news wise - working 7 days per week and can’t really log on anyplace. Thanks!


145 posted on 06/11/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by peggybac (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own - Obama nation is an abomination)
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To: peggybac

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2009/06/10/james-von-brunn-like-most-holocaust-deniers-are-from-the-left-not-the-right/


146 posted on 06/11/2009 6:36:27 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (There is no Far Right.. There is only Far Left.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I studied Marxism pretty extensively in Grad school. It’s primarily a theory of History with no govermental aspects. The actual practical side was filled in by others.


147 posted on 06/11/2009 6:40:24 PM PDT by Borges
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To: manc

Mark Levin was saying he’s a Socialist-not just a Dem.

Obviously I woulddn’t mind reporting pointing out he voted Dem-Obama.


148 posted on 06/11/2009 7:37:28 PM PDT by ottersnot (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: policy

agreed the media have been in overdrive the last year or two.
I truly believe that we have to inform others, let others know that obama isn’t a messiah and that the media is lying.

In any public place I make a comment for others to hear about obama


149 posted on 06/11/2009 8:02:13 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Thanks!


150 posted on 06/11/2009 8:20:08 PM PDT by peggybac (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own - Obama nation is an abomination)
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