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President Obama Outlines More than $300 Billion in new Medicare and Medicaid Savings
WHITEHOUSE.GOV ^ | June 13, 2009 | n/a

Posted on 06/13/2009 12:51:57 AM PDT by Cindy

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Weekly-Address-and-Fact-Sheet-New-Savings-Announcement/

THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary ________________________________________________________________ EMBARGOED UNTIL 6:00 AM ET, SATURDAY, June 13, 2009

WEEKLY ADDRESS: President Obama Outlines More than $300 Billion in new Medicare and Medicaid Savings

WASHINGTON – In his weekly address, President Barack Obama announced new Medicare and Medicaid savings proposals that will contribute more than $300 billion over 10 years to paying for health care reform, beyond the historic $635 billion down payment included in his FY 2010 Budget. The President stressed in the address that the health reform effort must be deficit neutral and that reform is a fundamental part of the solution to our long-term fiscal problems.

Please find attached a fact sheet detailing the new savings proposed by President Obama today.

The full audio of the address is HERE. The video can be viewed online at www.whitehouse.gov.

Remarks of President Barack Obama Weekly Address Saturday, June 13, 2009

Last week, I spoke to you about my commitment to work with Congress to pass health care reform this year. Today, I’d like to speak about how that effort is essential to restoring fiscal responsibility.

When it comes to the cost of health care, this much is clear: the status quo is unsustainable for families, businesses, and government. America spends nearly 50 percent more per person on health care than any other country. Health care premiums have doubled over the last decade, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs have skyrocketed, and many with preexisting conditions are denied coverage. More and more, Americans are being priced out of the care they need.

These costs are also hurting business, as some big businesses are at a competitive disadvantage with their foreign counterparts, and some small businesses are forced to cut benefits, drop coverage, or even lay off workers. Meanwhile, Medicare and Medicaid pose one of the greatest threats to our federal deficit, and could leave our children with a mountain of debt that they cannot pay.

We cannot continue down this path. I do not accept a future where Americans forego health care because they can’t pay for it, and more and more families go without coverage at all. And I don’t accept a future where American business is hurt and our government goes broke. We have a responsibility to act, and to act now. That is why I’m working with Congress to pass reform that lowers costs, improves quality and coverage, and protects consumer health care choices.

I know some question whether we can afford to act this year. But the unmistakable truth is that it would be irresponsible to not act. We can’t keep shifting a growing burden to future generations. With each passing year, health care costs consume a larger share of our nation’s spending, and contribute to yawning deficits that we cannot control. So let me be clear: health care reform is not part of the problem when it comes to our fiscal future, it is a fundamental part of the solution.

Real reform will mean reductions in our long term budget. And I have made a firm commitment that health care reform will not add to the federal deficit over the next decade. To keep that commitment, my Administration has already identified how to pay for the historic $635 billion down payment on reform detailed in our budget. This includes over $300 billion that we will save through changes like reducing Medicare overpayments to private insurers, and rooting out waste in Medicare and Medicaid.

However, any honest accounting must prepare for the fact that health care reform will require additional costs in the short term in order to reduce spending in the long-term. So today, I am announcing an additional $313 billion in savings that will rein in unnecessary spending, and increase efficiency and the quality of care – savings that will ensure that we have nearly $950 billion set aside to offset the cost of health care reform over the next ten years.

These savings will come from commonsense changes. For example – if more Americans are insured, we can cut payments that help hospitals treat patients without health insurance. If the drug makers pay their fair share, we can cut government spending on prescription drugs. And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs. For more details about these and other savings, you can visit our website: www.whitehouse.gov.

These savings underscore the fact that securing quality, affordable health care for the American people is tied directly to insisting upon fiscal responsibility. And these savings are rooted in the same principle that must guide our broader approach to reform: we will fix what’s broken, while building upon what works. If you like your plan and your doctor, you can keep them – the only changes that you’ll see are lower costs and better health care.

For too long, we have stood by while our health care system has frayed at the seams. While there has been excuse after excuse to delay reform, the price of care has gone up for individuals, for business, and for the government. This time must be different. This is the moment when we must reform health care so that we can build a new foundation for our economy to grow; for our people to thrive; and for our country to pursue a responsible and sustainable path. Thank you.


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1 posted on 06/13/2009 12:51:57 AM PDT by Cindy
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Note: I would print out the “fact sheet” here, but clicking on the fact sheet link I get error code “404.”


2 posted on 06/13/2009 12:54:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j12NRuH4gM

“Weekly Address: Health Care Reform, the Key to Our Fiscal Future”
(Added June 12, 2009)

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Transcript of Video:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Weekly-Address-and-Fact-Sheet-New-Savings-Announcement/

THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary
________________________________________________________________
EMBARGOED UNTIL 6:00 AM ET, SATURDAY, June 13, 2009

WEEKLY ADDRESS: President Obama Outlines More than $300 Billion in new Medicare and Medicaid Savings

WASHINGTON – In his weekly address, President Barack Obama announced new Medicare and Medicaid savings proposals that will contribute more than $300 billion over 10 years to paying for health care reform, beyond the historic $635 billion down payment included in his FY 2010 Budget. The President stressed in the address that the health reform effort must be deficit neutral and that reform is a fundamental part of the solution to our long-term fiscal problems.

Please find attached a fact sheet detailing the new savings proposed by President Obama today.

The full audio of the address is HERE. The video can be viewed online at www.whitehouse.gov.

Remarks of President Barack Obama
Weekly Address
Saturday, June 13, 2009

Last week, I spoke to you about my commitment to work with Congress to pass health care reform this year. Today, I’d like to speak about how that effort is essential to restoring fiscal responsibility.

When it comes to the cost of health care, this much is clear: the status quo is unsustainable for families, businesses, and government. America spends nearly 50 percent more per person on health care than any other country. Health care premiums have doubled over the last decade, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs have skyrocketed, and many with preexisting conditions are denied coverage. More and more, Americans are being priced out of the care they need.

These costs are also hurting business, as some big businesses are at a competitive disadvantage with their foreign counterparts, and some small businesses are forced to cut benefits, drop coverage, or even lay off workers. Meanwhile, Medicare and Medicaid pose one of the greatest threats to our federal deficit, and could leave our children with a mountain of debt that they cannot pay.

We cannot continue down this path. I do not accept a future where Americans forego health care because they can’t pay for it, and more and more families go without coverage at all. And I don’t accept a future where American business is hurt and our government goes broke. We have a responsibility to act, and to act now. That is why I’m working with Congress to pass reform that lowers costs, improves quality and coverage, and protects consumer health care choices.

I know some question whether we can afford to act this year. But the unmistakable truth is that it would be irresponsible to not act. We can’t keep shifting a growing burden to future generations. With each passing year, health care costs consume a larger share of our nation’s spending, and contribute to yawning deficits that we cannot control. So let me be clear: health care reform is not part of the problem when it comes to our fiscal future, it is a fundamental part of the solution.

Real reform will mean reductions in our long term budget. And I have made a firm commitment that health care reform will not add to the federal deficit over the next decade. To keep that commitment, my Administration has already identified how to pay for the historic $635 billion down payment on reform detailed in our budget. This includes over $300 billion that we will save through changes like reducing Medicare overpayments to private insurers, and rooting out waste in Medicare and Medicaid.

However, any honest accounting must prepare for the fact that health care reform will require additional costs in the short term in order to reduce spending in the long-term. So today, I am announcing an additional $313 billion in savings that will rein in unnecessary spending, and increase efficiency and the quality of care – savings that will ensure that we have nearly $950 billion set aside to offset the cost of health care reform over the next ten years.

These savings will come from commonsense changes. For example – if more Americans are insured, we can cut payments that help hospitals treat patients without health insurance. If the drug makers pay their fair share, we can cut government spending on prescription drugs. And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs. For more details about these and other savings, you can visit our website: www.whitehouse.gov.

These savings underscore the fact that securing quality, affordable health care for the American people is tied directly to insisting upon fiscal responsibility. And these savings are rooted in the same principle that must guide our broader approach to reform: we will fix what’s broken, while building upon what works. If you like your plan and your doctor, you can keep them – the only changes that you’ll see are lower costs and better health care.

For too long, we have stood by while our health care system has frayed at the seams. While there has been excuse after excuse to delay reform, the price of care has gone up for individuals, for business, and for the government. This time must be different. This is the moment when we must reform health care so that we can build a new foundation for our economy to grow; for our people to thrive; and for our country to pursue a responsible and sustainable path. Thank you.


3 posted on 06/13/2009 12:58:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

If The First Thug says “saves $300 billion”, that means it will cost $300 billion more. He simply doesn’t know jack sh—.


4 posted on 06/13/2009 12:58:55 AM PDT by kromike
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To: Cindy

oh yeah I saved $800 Billion by switching to Geico


5 posted on 06/13/2009 1:00:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cindy
I'm reminded of the headline about Jimmy Carter:

MORE MUSH FROM THE WIMP

6 posted on 06/13/2009 1:01:36 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, but even a caveman could do that.


7 posted on 06/13/2009 1:03:14 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.healthreform.gov/

http://www.healthreform.gov/forums/whitehouseforums.html

SNIPPET - QUOTE:
“Health care reform is no longer just a moral imperative, it is a fiscal imperative. If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year, in this Administration.”

– President Barack Obama
White House Forum on Health Reform, 3/5/09


8 posted on 06/13/2009 1:03:57 AM PDT by Cindy
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Note: The following post is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2270819/posts

Wrong-Way Health Care ‘Reform’ Could Actually Increase Spending
IBD Editorials ^ | June 12, 2009 | ROBERT SAMUELSON
Posted on June 12, 2009 6:18:39 PM PDT by Kaslin

It’s hard to know whether President Obama’s health care “reform” is naive, hypocritical or simply dishonest. Probably all three.

The president keeps saying it’s imperative to control runaway health spending. He’s right. The trouble is that what’s being promoted as health care “reform” almost certainly won’t suppress spending and, quite probably, will do the opposite.

A new report from Obama’s own Council of Economic Advisers shows why controlling health costs is so important. Since 1975, annual health spending per person, adjusted for inflation, has grown 2.1 percentage points faster than overall economic growth per person. Should this trend continue, the CEA projects that:

Health spending, which was 5% of gross domestic product in 1960 and is reckoned at almost 18% today, would grow to 34% of GDP by 2040 — a third of the economy.

Medicare and Medicaid, the government insurance programs for the elderly and poor, would increase from 6% of GDP now to 15% in 2040 — roughly equal to three-quarters of present federal spending.

Too Much Medicine

Employer-paid insurance premiums for family coverage, which grew 85% in inflation-adjusted terms from 1996 to $11,941 in 2006, would increase to $25,200 by 2025 and $45,000 in 2040 (all figures in “constant 2008 dollars”). The huge costs would force employers to reduce take-home pay.

The message in these dismal figures is that uncontrolled health spending is almost single-handedly determining national priorities. It’s reducing discretionary income, raising taxes, widening budget deficits and squeezing other government programs.

Worse, much medical spending is wasted, the CEA report says. It doesn’t improve Americans’ health; some care is unneeded or ineffective.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


9 posted on 06/13/2009 1:13:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

“These savings will come from commonsense changes. For example...If the drug makers pay their fair share...”

THIS IS NONSENSE. DRUG COMPANIES SPEND BILLIONS DEVELOPING NEW DRUGS AND ONLY A HANDFUL BECOME SUCCESSFUL. HAVEN’T YOU TAKEN AWAY THEIR TAX INCENTIVES, MR. PRESIDENT?

“...And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.”

IN OTHER WORDS, SECOND GUESS THE DIAGNOSIS. BUT DOCTORS DO ALL THAT TESTING TO KEEP FROM BEING SUED BY THE FAMILIES OF DEAD PATIENTS. SO, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST A GOVT. PHYSICIAN, PRESIDENT OBAMA?


10 posted on 06/13/2009 1:13:26 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

“THIS IS NONSENSE.”

I agree.


11 posted on 06/13/2009 1:15:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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Note: The following post is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2269341/posts

AMA to oppose Obama’s health care reform
Examiner.com ^ | 6-10-2009 | Dianna Cotter
Posted on June 10, 2009 11:21:35 PM PDT by Danae

...concerns have been raised about the course the President has thus far chosen to reveal. Robert Pear for the New York Times reports that the AMA will oppose a government sponsored insurance plan that Mr. Obama’s plan is thus far espousing. The opposition of the AMA could well be an insurmountable hurdle to the Obama Administration’s plans for Socialized Health Care.

The Times goes further:

“But in comments submitted to the Senate Finance Committee, the American Medical Association said: “The A.M.A. does not believe that creating a public health insurance option for non-disabled individuals under age 65 is the best way to expand health insurance coverage and lower costs. The introduction of a new public plan threatens to restrict patient choice by driving out private insurers, which currently provide coverage for nearly 70 percent of Americans.”

If private insurers are pushed out of the market, the group said, “the corresponding surge in public plan participation would likely lead to an explosion of costs that would need to be absorbed by taxpayers.””

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


12 posted on 06/13/2009 1:16:18 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Old people, die.
Younger sick people who are enemies of the state, PREPARE to die.
Babies, you are already dying.
Young, healthy people, you must “volunteer,” or risk sickness. THEN you will die.
HELLO?????


13 posted on 06/13/2009 1:19:06 AM PDT by MestaMachine (I don't have a novel or insightful tagline. At this point, words fail me.)
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Adding to post no. 2:

This is the url that is error code “404” at this time:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Weekly-Address-Health-Care-Reform-as-the-Key-to-Our-Fiscal-Future/Fact-Sheet

QUOTE:

Page Not Found

The page you requested wasn’t found at this location. The Obama Administration has created a brand new White House website, and it’s possible that the page you were looking for has been moved.

Please take a moment to explore our new site, learn more about President Obama and his team, and read about their plan to bring about the change America needs.

You can even read the blog, hear all the latest news and current events, and share your thoughts and feedback with the President.

We’ll be adding new content and features every day, so we hope you’ll bookmark WhiteHouse.gov and visit often. In the meantime, you can use the search field below to find more information on President Obama and the Administration.

SEARCH THE SITE


14 posted on 06/13/2009 1:19:47 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
“Health care reform is no longer just a moral imperative, it is a fiscal imperative. If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year, in this Administration.”

I like this better:

Tax cuts are no longer just a moral imperative, they are a fiscal imperative. If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy, then we must address the crushing cost of taxes this year, in this Administration.”

15 posted on 06/13/2009 1:20:05 AM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: PressurePoint

I like your version better too, Pressure Point.


16 posted on 06/13/2009 1:21:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

We need to fight this with all we’ve got. It’s all lies about “saving.” It’s all taking away from the freedom of doctors and patients. And there is no way we can afford “free” medical care.


17 posted on 06/13/2009 1:29:55 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

“And there is no way we can afford “free” medical care.”

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OPINION:

I agree.


18 posted on 06/13/2009 1:30:56 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Thank you. Obama's rhetoric is plug-n-play. He's got a list of market tested phrases that he uses, he plugs in whatever socialist scheme he's pushing and somehow the sentence comes out playing like harp music to the ears of the masses. But logically, his words make no sense.

It's fun to play. Sometimes, just for fun, I like to take some of his choice sentences and plug in things I want (like free beer) and it's incredible, it sounds like I'm helping people by getting free beer.

19 posted on 06/13/2009 1:34:20 AM PDT by PressurePoint
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http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=49481

“Congressional Republicans Speak Out against Obama’s Plan for Government-Owned Health Care”
Friday, June 12, 2009
By Matt Cover

SNIPPET: “Washington (CNSNews.com) - Republican leaders in both the House and Senate voiced opposition Thursday to the Obama administration’s plan to establish a government-run health insurance entity, saying it makes no sense to give government control over health care.

House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) said that House Republicans were against Obama’s idea, “period.” Boehner said that any American who does not want their doctor’s office to be run like the Department of Motor Vehicles should oppose the plan, too.

“I’m opposed to the government option, period,” Boehner said at his weekly press conference Thursday. “If you like going to the DMV and you think they do a great job, or if you like going to the post office and think it’s the most efficient thing you’ve run into, then you’ll love the government-run health care system, because that’s basically what you’re going to have.””


20 posted on 06/13/2009 1:34:56 AM PDT by Cindy
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we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.
___________
P*ss off stupid Kenyan, we all know what that means.


21 posted on 06/13/2009 1:45:55 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.

oh yeah, we check into the hospital for unnecessary stays at least once a month and the hospital lets us. /s.

what world is Zero living in? seriously. And just whom is going to determine what is necessary versus unnecessary? My 77yo dad is a retired career vet. His govt-provided hmo insurance just doubled in the last 2 years. Retirement check deducted. And trying to get his doctor to admit him to the hospital for anything is like pulling teeth! We get a letter once in a while telling Dad what tests to go in for, and a letter afterwards telling us the test results. Haven't laid eyes on his primary care physician in 2 years and counting. And Zero wants me to have this same 'coverage' ???? ya..NO !

22 posted on 06/13/2009 1:49:13 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: mojitojoe

coffins...?
Wait. Cremations. Yeah. That’s the ticket.
Where have I heard that before?


23 posted on 06/13/2009 1:51:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine (I don't have a novel or insightful tagline. At this point, words fail me.)
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To: Cindy

Utter, bare-faced BS, all soon to be parroted by the Kool Aid drinkers at the Ministry of Propaganda, otherwise known as the MSM. Knowledge is Ignorance in the new socialist Superstate, and Big Brother will monitor your reaction to insure the appropriate level of enthusiastic credulity.

The nation is sinking under a mountain of debt, which will soon multiply into a mountain range, out from under which the children and grandchildren of today’s voters will never even hope to dig themselves.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 2:00:41 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Cindy

ZERO = ZERO


25 posted on 06/13/2009 2:28:31 AM PDT by Check6
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To: Cindy

The savings will be realized by denying medical aid to White folks...

It’s really that simple and that easy..
CHUMPS.


26 posted on 06/13/2009 2:41:54 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Cindy

If the AMA don’t agree with Obama’s health plan you know it has to suck.


27 posted on 06/13/2009 2:49:08 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Cindy

28 posted on 06/13/2009 2:53:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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I’m confused. If you reduce spending on health care some people are going to be out of work. Now those folks who are in health care that lose their jobs how will they buy windmills,green cars and other whatnot’s? And where are the reductions coming? Is he going to reduce regulations so you don’t have as many paper pushers? My guess is the government takes over the industry and then, like those CEOS who bought into Tarp he controls just how much doctors,nurses and assorted other people needed to provide care get to make.


29 posted on 06/13/2009 3:31:11 AM PDT by linn37 (cue the circus music the democrats are back in charge)
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To: Cindy

Without reading the article, I can outline the typical tree easy Beltway steps:
1. I will spend $1 Billion
2. Ok, make that $700 Million
3. Look, I saved $300 Million!!


30 posted on 06/13/2009 3:37:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cindy
If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year, in this Administration.”

The best way to do this is allow competition and choice in the system. But that isn't really his goal. His goal is to force us haves to pay for the have nots by raising our taxes/premiums. The people that get the benefit for free wont have any incentive to conserve.

Why do we even need Medicare? People have a whole lifetime to accumulate health care financing for old age..

31 posted on 06/13/2009 3:42:54 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Cindy

Any cuts in the federal budget are heading for Obama & Company’s pockets.


32 posted on 06/13/2009 4:08:27 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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He’ll increase the medicare budget by $600 billion and then cut it $300 billion and claim he saved $300 billion...

Never mind that medicare still increased by $300 billion...

That’s exactly what he did with federal budget.

And the morons in the press went right along with it...


33 posted on 06/13/2009 4:11:54 AM PDT by DB
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To: Cindy


34 posted on 06/13/2009 4:23:44 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: DB

The varnish is starting to wear off. People are going to start to see Zero for what he truly is: an unabashed socialist hell bent on destroying the economic and social fabric of the greatest country on earth.


35 posted on 06/13/2009 4:29:55 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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President Obama Outlines More than $300 Billion in new Medicare and Medicaid Savings

At first I had read that as "million", rather than "Billion", and was losing all respect for the man.

36 posted on 06/13/2009 4:36:33 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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any honest accounting must prepare for the fact that health care reform will require additional costs in the short term in order to reduce spending in the long-term.

LOL! Another "short term" increase in the size of gubmint that never gets cut.

37 posted on 06/13/2009 4:37:42 AM PDT by Need4Truth (Washington DC is a foreign entity.)
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Real reform will mean reductions in our long term budget. And I have made a firm commitment that health care reform will not add to the federal deficit over the next decade. To keep that commitment, my Administration has already identified how to pay for the historic $635 billion down payment on reform detailed in our budget. This includes over $300 billion that we will save through changes like reducing Medicare overpayments to private insurers, and rooting out waste in Medicare and Medicaid.

Translation: The Kenyan Clown plans to slash national defense, raise taxes, and vastly increase the size and influence of the nanny state.

38 posted on 06/13/2009 4:57:31 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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“We are out of money” PING!


39 posted on 06/13/2009 4:59:44 AM PDT by cranked
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To: TigersEye

Oh gosh...such are the times, I miss those cavemen...


40 posted on 06/13/2009 5:01:29 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: snowsislander
Translation: The Kenyan Clown plans to slash national defense, raise taxes, and vastly increase the size and influence of the nanny state.

If Obama really wanted to save lots of money in medical expenses starting right now, just send the illegal aliens back home.


41 posted on 06/13/2009 5:57:09 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: kromike

My first thought after reading this drivel is - who can be stupid enough to believe any of it? It is pure fantasy. But, as long as there are democrats, I guess there will be believers.


42 posted on 06/13/2009 6:49:03 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: Cindy

TO the meat of the matter....

“These savings will come from commonsense changes. For example – if more Americans are insured, we can cut payments that help hospitals treat patients without health insurance. If the drug makers pay their fair share, we can cut government spending on prescription drugs. And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.”

1. If more Americans are insured... This saving will only occur if his new healthplan is passed.

2. If the drug makers pay their fair share... Drug makers lose their profits.

3. And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care... That’s either penalties by the government for “excessive care” or tax money to the doctors for “approved care”.


43 posted on 06/13/2009 6:57:02 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Yaelle

‘And there is no way we can afford “free” medical care.’

If “free” Medicaid and Medicare are ALREADY unaffordable, how are we going to afford to add MORE people to the plans? Won’t that just raise the cost proportionately?

Note to self: Any transition between private medical care and government run care will be chaos. Many doctors won’t take medicaid now, some won’t take medicare because they are (purposefully) paid less than they are paid through other insurance. At some point, it will be impossible to find a doctor who willingly takes either plan unless they are ‘forced’ to do so...at which point I imagine they will (have no choice but to) become employees of the government.

Anyone who thinks government run health care will work, hasn’t had to go on Medicaid or Medicare. On the flip side, here in Ohio, the ‘government’ won’t even administer Medicaid...it’s all been pawned back off to....insurance companies.


44 posted on 06/13/2009 7:15:13 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........../.......... Sanford '12)
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To: Kimberly GG
Many doctors won’t take medicaid now, some won’t take medicare because they are (purposefully) paid less than they are paid through other insurance.

I took my wife to an ENT doctor last week.

There was a sign over the check-in desk.

It listed acceptable insurance providers.
One on the 'No' list was Medicare Complete.
(may have been the only one, don't remember any other)

45 posted on 06/13/2009 7:36:56 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Cindy

I’m sure the AARP will scream and howl like they did at Bush, and this is far worse than what Bush proposed (limit Medicare growth to 7% a year was the proposal). I will not hold my breath waiting to hear from the AARP (a democrat subsidy).


46 posted on 06/13/2009 7:37:31 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Cindy

[[“Health care reform is no longer just a moral imperative, it is a fiscal imperative. If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year, in this Administration.”]]

Translation:

“Health care reform is a moral imperative, and anyone that doesn’t agree with me is a terrorist right wing nut- it is also a fiscal imperative, and that is why I am going to ax critical care for hte elderly, because they are costing this coutnry too much keeping htem healthy. If we want to create jobs and rebuild our economy for hte young and healthy, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year by cutting health care for htose who are too sick to fend for themselves, in this Administration.”


47 posted on 06/13/2009 8:52:56 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Kimberly GG

[[If “free” Medicaid and Medicare are ALREADY unaffordable, how are we going to afford to add MORE people to the plans? Won’t that just raise the cost proportionately?]]

Don’tchaknow? We are goign to pay for it by spending like drunken sailors! That’s the hwole brilliant plan behind the 2-3 trillion dollar ‘stimulus plan’- spend spend spend (and when noone is looking, keep borrowing from China- further indebting us to hte communist regime)- Oh yeah, that and cutting health care to the elderly, the sick and other undesirables who are making life on the healthy too costly. When al lthe elderly and sick are gone, then where the money is goign to come from is a mystery- but rest assured, the dems will have another ‘answer’ by then. And let’s not forget- we’ll pay for universal health care by offerign it to illegal aliens as well- just keep doling out hte money, and somehow, someway, money will pop out of nowhere to pay for everything.

Change- America- You weanted it- now reap the whirlwind!


48 posted on 06/13/2009 8:58:11 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Kimberly GG

Medicare and Medicaid are cutting/will cut vision and dental plans in some places. Don’t get me wrong, I’m really grateful some family members who are elderly/disabled, and a few younger members who are now on disablility because of illness are able to get it!

Sure I’m grateful for these programs for their benefit, because they really need them now. But one of my daughters, who is medically disabled for now, already lost her vision benefits. She just got a letter that tells her that in the fall, she’ll lose her dental plan also! She used these plans wisely when she had them, but she’ll lose on these as well as the ones that abuse them!

What else are they going to cut?


49 posted on 06/13/2009 10:22:55 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: CottShop

I guess they’ll have to run out to the money tree forest run by Obama and his rich, powerful, and shadowy supporters and backers(puppetmasters). They can pick off a handful, and away they go!


50 posted on 06/13/2009 10:25:59 AM PDT by dsutah
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