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Jay Leno Palin joke

Posted on 06/13/2009 8:41:31 AM PDT by Nomad577

I guess I'm just trying to be devil's advocate or something, there have been hundreds of jokes.

"Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it." -- "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," 9/2/08


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1 posted on 06/13/2009 8:41:31 AM PDT by Nomad577
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To: Nomad577

That one was more a slam on Edwards than Bristol.


2 posted on 06/13/2009 8:42:17 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (I'm the one Janet warned you about)
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To: Nomad577

1) He clarified which daughter, it wasn’t the 14-year-old

2) He didn’t suggest that she be raped

end of story


3 posted on 06/13/2009 8:42:36 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Nomad577

YOU, need to pull you head out of your ‘arse’ IF you see any REAL similarity between your example and Letterman’s deed.


4 posted on 06/13/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Nomad577

Lame and ugly joke. But not even close as disgusting and vile as Letterman joking about rape of minors and prostitution.


5 posted on 06/13/2009 8:44:45 AM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Actually, the implication in both cases was the same: statutory rape.

Unless the age of consent in Alaska is 16 or something, which I don't know.

6 posted on 06/13/2009 8:44:46 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Corin Stormhands
"1) He clarified which daughter, it wasn’t the 14-year-old

2) He didn’t suggest that she be raped"

Bingo.

7 posted on 06/13/2009 8:44:54 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: SandyInSeattle

What Nomad said, obviously a (well deserved) slam on the Breck Guy.


8 posted on 06/13/2009 8:44:57 AM PDT by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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To: Nomad577

Everyone likes Jay Leno...leave him alone. The reason that Letterman is getting heat is because he is very disliked and he has been rather snarky since he was passed over from Jay Leno back in 1992 (?)...He is hated!!!


9 posted on 06/13/2009 8:45:06 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Nomad577

Plus, everyone at the time agreed that it was pretty scuzzy and rotten to keep bringing Palin’s children into their smearfest. I don’t remember anyone here saying that was OK back then.


10 posted on 06/13/2009 8:45:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nomad577
Letterman’s “joke” was illustrative.

It showed in brief both how hateful is the left and how depraved.

11 posted on 06/13/2009 8:47:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Nomad577

Please. How funny would it be if Letterman said Michelle Obama looked like a slut? Letterman and his audience disdain Palin and think it’s real funny to make toxic jokes about her. They’re vulgar boors.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 8:47:11 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: Nomad577
Both the content AND the Comedian (Letterman) were despicable.

Letterman is a bitter, unfunny hack whereas Leno is funny and as best I can tell, equal in his humor. JMO

13 posted on 06/13/2009 8:47:45 AM PDT by TCats
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To: Nomad577

That joke seems to acknowledge a problem with the situation — Edwards was in trouble for it. It was a knock at Edwards, not Palin. The Letterman joke called statutory rape “uncomfortable” when done in a baseball stadium ... and seemed to target a child, not A-Rod. [By the way, am I the only one that doesn’t get the joke? Why A-Rod? Has A-Rod knocked-up someone? I get the Edwards joke ... the A-Rod one is a bit lost on me.]

To be fair — I think there has been some overreaction. Letterman is what he is. It was a tasteless obnoxious joke. It wasn’t the first. It won’t be the last. And there are much greater offenders than Letterman.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 06/13/2009 8:48:54 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but I promise you, the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Correct, this was not as egregious but quite similar.

People here like Leno, but no one should accept this as OK

15 posted on 06/13/2009 8:50:39 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Big_Monkey
“1) He clarified which daughter, it wasn’t the 14-year-old
2) He didn’t suggest that she be raped”

Bingo.

#1 Later after the storm started to save his azz at "suggestion" by Corporate Attorneys I would Imagine.

#2 Knocking up a 14 year-old by an adult is in itself Rape.

Try again.

16 posted on 06/13/2009 8:51:17 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Nomad577
I guess I'm just trying to be devil's advocate or something, there have been hundreds of jokes.

Yes there have been but be very wary of making false equivalencies. The left does that all the time - every day. It becomes such a pattern that people don't even recognize it after awhile.

Leno's joke is borderline but Letterman's was clearly way-way-way over the line on many levels then he lied about it. That's what contributes to making the parallel between the two jokes false, IMO.

17 posted on 06/13/2009 8:51:19 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: Nomad577

Leno’s joke was amde during the heat of the Presidential campaign. Letterman’s child molesting lust rant was made when Palin did a charity event for autistic children.


18 posted on 06/13/2009 8:51:43 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Unless the age of consent in Alaska is 16 or something, which I don't know.

I would assume so. 16 is the age in most juristictions of the western world.

19 posted on 06/13/2009 8:53:07 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a competent small government conservative is good enough for government work)
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To: SnakeDoctor

To be fair — I think there has been some overreaction.

you want to see over reaction, a big name conservative should make a snarky joke about lettermans wife and them having a child out of wedlock..THAT will bring an over reaction from the left that would make this letterman dustup look like childs play..


20 posted on 06/13/2009 8:53:09 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: SolidWood
Leno's a good guy. I don't think the joke was lame it was pretty much standard fare.
21 posted on 06/13/2009 8:53:58 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Nomad577

Letterman is a mean spirited a**hole, Leno just trying for a joke and a laugh at John Edwards expense.


22 posted on 06/13/2009 8:55:40 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Cheetahcat; Corin Stormhands
“1) He clarified which daughter, it wasn’t the 14-year-old

2) He didn’t suggest that she be raped”

Bingo.

"Try again."

You have to reread my post. I was replying to an earlier poster, #3. That poster was commenting about Jay Leno's joke, which is the topic of the thread, not David Letterman's. I was agreeing with, and still do, Corin Stormhands.

23 posted on 06/13/2009 8:56:43 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Nomad577

Anyone have a list of nice guy Leno’s jokes that included mention of Obama’s daughters, even if the “target” was someone else?

I’ll get a pencil.....


24 posted on 06/13/2009 8:58:34 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SnakeDoctor; Nomad577

“I get the Edwards joke ... the A-Rod one is a bit lost on me”

The reason the joke didn’t work is its purpose was not comedy.

Letterman’s motive was to bring political and social harm to Palin and her family.

This is not hard to figure out. Look at the patterns.


25 posted on 06/13/2009 8:59:01 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: Big_Monkey

Having sex with a 17 year old girl is statutory rape.


26 posted on 06/13/2009 8:59:28 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Nomad577
This was last year, Sept.

Nothing new here. It's just the way left wing loons in Hollywierd are. They reveal their true views on the subject of old men having sex with underage girls. It's obviously "ok" in their minds; even if it's forced sex with an underage girl according to Dave Letterman, which tells us this view is widely accepted throughout the entertainment (if that's what you call stale repetitive insults hurled at Republicans, especially strong Republican women who have already achieved a lot in their political career for the good of the state they represent) industry.

No doubt the stories about those in control of the entertainment industry exploiting teen underage girls, demanding sexual favors from them in exchange for the possibility of a part in a crappy B movie are more than just rumors whispered in the ladies rest room.

Disgusting, immoral pigs and faggots, the whole lot of them.
The best thing that can happen to these disgusting late night insult shows if for them to be replaced by an infomercial.

27 posted on 06/13/2009 9:00:12 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Corin Stormhands
2) He didn’t suggest that she be raped

Actually that is a rape scenario identical to the A-Rod joke.

28 posted on 06/13/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Nomad577

Letterman’s jokes are real funny if you think the Palin family is a proper target for vulgar derision. And they say conservatives are the hate-mongers.


29 posted on 06/13/2009 9:01:31 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Did you hear the one about A-rod in a three way with Obama’s daughters?

I didn’t think so. Neither did I.


30 posted on 06/13/2009 9:02:14 AM PDT by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: Nomad577

letterman has used 95 jokes on Palin. more than Leno Conan Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert COMBINED.

His excuse that he meant the 18 yo is feeble and still sick.

Imus got fired. Letterman should too


31 posted on 06/13/2009 9:02:36 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I agree completely. The larger problem is the double-standard. Comedians are hard-hitting on conservatives, and hands-off for liberals. Liberals are OK with making obnoxious statements about conservatives, and ask for someone’s head when the same statement is made about one of their own. That’s a huge problem.

There can be a similar double-standard from conservatives who think calling Sarah Palin a “slutty flight attendant” is horrible — but proceed to make jokes about the girth of Hillary Clinton’s ankles. The only difference is whose appearance is off-limits.

I do not have a double-standard. The joke was obnoxious, regardless of the target. But, I don’t care for the liberal premise that someone should lose their livelihood because of an obnoxious comment. I also don’t care for people running around asking for apologies all the time.

There is a separate problem that comedians seem to be in the business of being obnoxious these days. Part of it is that the public is similarly obnoxious ... demand drives the supply. Decorum is unfortunately a thing of the past —from both the right and the left.

SnakeDoc


32 posted on 06/13/2009 9:04:15 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but I promise you, the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Exactly. Leno new where the ring of fire was. The idiot weatherman didn’t.


33 posted on 06/13/2009 9:04:46 AM PDT by eyedigress
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34 posted on 06/13/2009 9:05:34 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Syncro

I have no idea why people here like Leno. The man trashed Linda trip for years, almost nightly. I quit watching the show after I’d had enough of it.

Here was a guy smearing a single mother trying to raise children by herself, for not perjuring herself at Monica
Blewhimsky’s request on behalf of Bill Clinton.

Leno is just another leftist shill. They talk a good game when it comes to single mothers, then trash one incessantly if political circumstances warrants it in their view.


35 posted on 06/13/2009 9:05:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It's obviously "ok" in their minds;

This is why this battle is not only about Letterman but all his writers, producers, staff and sponsors that allow this clearly *premeditated* - pre-written, analyzed, approved, practiced, performed and defended - politically and socially motivated hideous attack to occur.

Letterman is just a figurehead. We need to "rise up," as Sarah said, against the whole double-standard infrastructure.

36 posted on 06/13/2009 9:06:22 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
I guess I could have looked it up. The reason I assumed it would be 18 is because I grew up in CA, where it is 18.

AK is 16.

37 posted on 06/13/2009 9:07:16 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Syncro
"Having sex with a 17 year old girl is statutory rape.

Not in Alaska, the age of consent is 16.

38 posted on 06/13/2009 9:07:58 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Syncro
Having sex with a 17 year old girl is statutory rape.

17 is the age of consent in a lot of states (Texas for one).

39 posted on 06/13/2009 9:08:13 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
And there are much greater offenders than Letterman.

Lefterman is a symptom, not the disease. Actually, there are thousands of loquacious hacks with Dave's meager abilities that the network could put in his time slot. So, I agree; it's really not just Depraved Dave. SeeBS, like the other two broadcast giants have been rotting at their cores for too long. They are in need of swift and fiscally brutal attention. And Lefterman has provided a handy club with which to punish one of the chief offenders--SeeBS.
40 posted on 06/13/2009 9:08:14 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: SnakeDoctor

And tell me once again how Limbaugh attacked the troops?

It’s called fighting fire with fire. The game is on


41 posted on 06/13/2009 9:09:06 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Corin Stormhands
Doesn't matter. He's still advocating old men having forced sex with underage girls.

There is no way it would be willing sex, Bristol isn't stupid, nor ugly and desperate.

42 posted on 06/13/2009 9:09:11 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nomad577

It’s not nice, but it’s not cruel. And I take it as a slam on Edwards more than anything.

Has A-Rod said anything about this at all? I’m guessing he doesn’t even want to come near this controversy. But I’d be fuming if I were him.


43 posted on 06/13/2009 9:09:19 AM PDT by AUJenn
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To: Nomad577
I stopped watching BOTH of the sleezebags when they showed their disdain for Governor Palin and gave the BIG Zero and his manly wife a free pass.
44 posted on 06/13/2009 9:11:03 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: SnakeDoctor
demand drives the supply

That's why we wish to rise up and demand something different from the double-standard culture.

45 posted on 06/13/2009 9:11:15 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

There is a reason why you would take California as a standard of normality?


46 posted on 06/13/2009 9:12:02 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a competent small government conservative is good enough for government work)
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To: Nomad577

Leno didn’t refer to the 17 year as a slut nor did he advocate rape of a minor much unlike that supercilious lumpy letterman. What letterman did is an affront to all parents. And I’m just angry and I want his scalp.


47 posted on 06/13/2009 9:12:48 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: eyedigress

Limbaugh didn’t attack the troops.

“Fighting fire with fire” requires that we buy into the liberal premise that people deserve to lose their livelihood for expressing disagreement with the conventional wisdom of the crybaby asking for the firing (whether that “wisdom” be liberal or conservative).

There were several on this board suggesting we make an attempt to get Garofalo fired from 24 for the crime of being liberal. That’s no less ridiculous than trying to get a conservative fired for being conservative.

This is a surrender of our principles. Free speech is worthwhile.

SnakeDoc


48 posted on 06/13/2009 9:13:42 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but I promise you, the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: Nomad577

I’ll not defend the Leno joke, but will say that at least it was topical. The Letterman comments demonstrate that every time Sarah Palin does anything, even go to a baseball game, they are going to attack her children.


49 posted on 06/13/2009 9:14:25 AM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: PerConPat

I’m not convinced the problem is the comedians. The audience is generally just as obnoxious. Where there is demand, there will be supply.

SnakeDoc


50 posted on 06/13/2009 9:14:38 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but I promise you, the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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