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Why the hell should I feel sorry, says...(Lynndie England) who abused Abu Ghraib prisoners..
Mail Online ^ | June 13, 2009 | David Jones

Posted on 06/13/2009 12:11:53 PM PDT by Big_Monkey

In this deeply disturbing interview, the trailer trash torturer who appalled the world by appearing in shocking 'souvenir' photographs remains utterly unrepentant and says she has 800 MORE torture photos that could rock the White House

Normally, not much happens in Keyser, West Virginia, but today the folks in this quaint little railroad town, nestling in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, are spoilt for choice.

Either they can whoop and holler along to fiddle music at the annual Strawberry Festival or head down to the bookshop, where a local 'celebrity' - as her agent-cum-lawyer describes her - is signing first editions of her new biography.

Arriving at Main Street Books to find a young woman - considerably heavier now, but still grimly familiar - loitering self-consciously beside a pile of unsold manuscripts, it becomes clear that the fiddle players have won hands-down.

When the shop closes, two hours later, Lynndie England has autographed barely two dozen copies, mostly for acquaintances such as her old schoolteacher.

For even on her home territory, few people are willing to line the pockets of this fallen girl soldier; who posed for a stomach-churning series of 'souvenir' photographs that cost countless American lives and brought shame on the nation.

Five years have passed since a U.S. TV station first broadcast those pictures, staged to humiliate and dehumanise Iraqi prisoners - and provide warped amusement for their U.S. Army guards - at Abu Ghraib prison, near Baghdad.

They caused universal outrage, ending any lingering pretence that President George W. Bush was on some moral crusade in Iraq, and sparking a wave of retaliatory beheadings; many of which were videoed to reciprocate the horror and degradation meted out to the Muslim detainees.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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" remains utterly unrepentant and says she has 800 MORE torture photos that could rock the White House"

Her absolute dereliction of duty and blatant disregard for foundational Army regulations and protocols was directly responsible for perhaps hundreds of additional US casualties in Iraq.

It seems she hasn't any guilt or remorse for her actions. And, with a book set to be published, it looks as if she'll profit from her actions.

1 posted on 06/13/2009 12:11:53 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
And she tried to make money off of it.

What utter trash she is.

2 posted on 06/13/2009 12:14:10 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Big_Monkey

What a b*@$()!

Beside being trash, her claim to have almost a thousand more photos endangers US troops!


3 posted on 06/13/2009 12:14:26 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: Big_Monkey

I can’t remember the details.....how did she torture prisoners?


4 posted on 06/13/2009 12:14:31 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Good grief, that whole article stinks to high heaven with stereotypes doesn’t it? Oh thats right, its not a stereoytpe if its about white people. Then again, she should have to apologize when they bowdown and kiss America’s behind. They can START with apologizing for Daniel Pearl.


5 posted on 06/13/2009 12:14:46 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Big_Monkey

She’s too F’ing stupid to realize what she did was wrong. This ho should be in the clink....


6 posted on 06/13/2009 12:15:31 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Big_Monkey

What she did wasn’t torture. College hazing is worse.

That said she did disobey orders and did hurt the cause. So has her commanding General since.


7 posted on 06/13/2009 12:16:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Big_Monkey

she should run for Congress lol


8 posted on 06/13/2009 12:18:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: SolidWood
Beside being trash, her claim to have almost a thousand more photos endangers US troops!

It endangers all of us here.

Every time our state-run media revives the Abu Ghraib story, there is an uptick in attacks on westerners here.

I destest Lynndie England almost as much as I detest our state-run media.

9 posted on 06/13/2009 12:19:08 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

underwear on head? leashes? poses?

I dunno


10 posted on 06/13/2009 12:19:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Big_Monkey

The people who should be sorry are those who allowed this one event to be blown out of proportion. The liberal media cost lives of both our soldiers and Iraqis who suffered from their overstatement of case.
11 posted on 06/13/2009 12:19:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (It is a good day for a Revolution but everyone is too afraid to do what is necessary.)
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To: ScreamingFist

She was never taught right from wrong, most publik skools don’t teach it either


12 posted on 06/13/2009 12:20:07 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Doesn’t excuse her pimping her squalid story and thus further doing harm to America. She’s vile and reckless.


13 posted on 06/13/2009 12:20:42 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: ScreamingFist

If she has 800 more photos as she claims, they belong to the United States Military, IMO


14 posted on 06/13/2009 12:23:53 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: driftdiver
"What she did wasn’t torture. College hazing is worse."

Let me know what your alma mater is, I want to make sure my kids avoid that school.

What she, and her partners in crime, engaged in was torture. Iraq was not Afghanistan, I know, I was in both places. Uniformed service members of the US Armed Forces have a moral obligation, and swear an oath to to treat prisoners in a humane manner. There was nothing humane about what they did, and it certainly wasn't college Tom Foolery.

Do a little research about what happened at Abu Ghraib before you embarrass yourself further.

15 posted on 06/13/2009 12:24:29 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: SolidWood

I don’t care what she did. It shouldn’t have been an issue. The photos should never have been released. No one died from her actions specifically but people surely died from the actions of liberals in the media to stir this up in order to hurt America and hurt Bush and gain politically. I’ll save my anger for the real monsters. They are among us and we do nothing to stop them.


16 posted on 06/13/2009 12:24:37 PM PDT by Maelstorm (It is a good day for a Revolution but everyone is too afraid to do what is necessary.)
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To: Big_Monkey

It’s too bad she got caught. She would have made a great Secretary of DHS.


17 posted on 06/13/2009 12:24:55 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Big_Monkey

What publisher fronted this work?


18 posted on 06/13/2009 12:26:13 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Big_Monkey

And for the next act we have dueling banjoes.


19 posted on 06/13/2009 12:27:38 PM PDT by richiep (Richie)
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To: Big_Monkey
" remains utterly unrepentant...

If it saved one American life I hope she pulled out their finger nails one at a time very very slow.

None of those terrorists were beheaded after the supposed "torture".

We should give her a metal and hang 90% of the MSM.

20 posted on 06/13/2009 12:28:55 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Erik Latranyi

Panties on their heads...dogleashes around their necks...ridiculing their genitals...

Yeah, real heavy stuff.

But she never chopped off anyone’s head! ;)


21 posted on 06/13/2009 12:30:16 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Do a little research about what happened at Abu Ghraib before you embarrass yourself further.

Can you save me a little time... how many of the terrorist/insurgents at Abu Ghraib suffered serious injury or death? Thanks.

22 posted on 06/13/2009 12:30:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Maelstorm
I don’t care what she did. It shouldn’t have been an issue.

I do care and it should have been an issue within the military. I agree that the media was hyping it and did much harm, it should have been dealt with swiftly by the military.

But she can't be absolved from now selling her story and announcing to have more photos. She is in pack with the media who keep this up to harm our troops. Beside that her actions and behavious is disgusting and repulsive. Whether it's torture or not... it's in all cases prisoner abuse.

23 posted on 06/13/2009 12:30:37 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: Big_Monkey

I don’t know who disgusts me more, Lynndie England or David Jones.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 12:31:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Maelstorm

I guessing she is not going to sell too many books.


25 posted on 06/13/2009 12:33:24 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Big_Monkey
They [pictures] caused universal outrage, ending any lingering pretence that President George W. Bush was on some moral crusade in Iraq...

False statement.

Bush was on a moral crusade in Iraq; side shows like Abu Ghraib were used by the national media to discredit the objective.

Everyone knows that national media are willing to cheerlead military defeat and discourage troops in time of war, if it will discredit a Republican administration.

In the past such action was called sedition or treason, and was punished by death.

26 posted on 06/13/2009 12:34:12 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: Erik Latranyi
I can’t remember the details.....how did she torture prisoners?

Doing things to guys that they'd have to pay for in San Francisco.

27 posted on 06/13/2009 12:35:29 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Big_Monkey

” Do a little research about what happened at Abu Ghraib before you embarrass yourself further. “

Funny I dont feel embarrased. I could care less what they did to them and the lefties don’t care either. The left doesnt care about the people of Iraq.

Her crime was giving the left and anti-americans a tool to use against us.

Its what happens when you put people in positions like this without the training or discipline needed. Theres even a case that the mix of male and females in the unit as being a factor. She did this because she was in love with the psycho and following his lead.


28 posted on 06/13/2009 12:35:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SolidWood
"Whether it's torture or not... it's in all cases prisoner abuse. "

Hear, hear.

I'm a sickened by some that are actually defending her. Her actions were nothing short of traitorous, and narcissistic indulgence of her, and her friends, own weird, sexual proclivities.

29 posted on 06/13/2009 12:36:29 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Lancey Howard
Can you save me a little time... how many of the terrorist/insurgents at Abu Ghraib suffered serious injury or death? Thanks.

Sorry Lancey, American soldiers don't do naked dogpiles of handcuffed prisoners, like this "woman" and her pimp did. Those photos getting out hurt the war effort in Iraq more than you will ever know.....

30 posted on 06/13/2009 12:37:03 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: driftdiver
Daniel Pearl would've considered himself lucky to have Lynndie as his guard:

~~Pearl, just before he was beheaded by Jew-hating Islamofascists.

31 posted on 06/13/2009 12:37:05 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Separated at birth?

32 posted on 06/13/2009 12:37:11 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: driftdiver
What she did wasn’t torture. College hazing is worse.

Agreed. But I must admit that even all of these years later, the anal Glo-Sticks were something that still elicit a chuckle. That does not make me a bad man.

33 posted on 06/13/2009 12:37:48 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: Maelstorm
The photos should never have been released. No one died from her actions specifically but people surely died from the actions of liberals in the media to stir this up in order to hurt America and hurt Bush and gain politically.

The media wouldn't have had that story to further enflame the terrorists if Lynndie and her friends hadn't acted so crass and stupid.

I remember well the days after that story was released. Yeah, I remember having to dive into bomb shelters or hit the ground quite a bit more than usual in those days. And "usual" was enough as it was.

And in 2005 when we experienced about a week's lull in violence, the media scum revived the story talking about the trial and the terrorists got back down to business again.

Lynndie gets no slack from me.

34 posted on 06/13/2009 12:38:11 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Those photos dissuaded thousands of enemy “summer soldiers” and suicide bombing dupes from going to Iraq.

Omar wasn't afraid to die but he was terrified to think that his homeys would see him on the Internet in a naked pyramid.

35 posted on 06/13/2009 12:38:25 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: DogBarkTree

Better than Janet Napolitano, that’s for sure!


36 posted on 06/13/2009 12:39:23 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Yep. Run a prison for whatever prisoners... But dammit run it professionally!

It’s a prison, not a little sex dungeon.

How low-life do you have to be to indulge in forced masturbations and butt-pyramides.

Beside being scum, they did harm our effort by their little pervert parties.

Most of their actions I wouldn’t call torture. But definately grave prisoner abuse.


37 posted on 06/13/2009 12:39:49 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: Big_Monkey

This would have never seen the light of day had there not been a Republican in the White House at the time.


38 posted on 06/13/2009 12:40:00 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Endeavor to persevere.)
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To: Richard Kimball

HAHAHAHAH....


39 posted on 06/13/2009 12:41:07 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: SolidWood
...endangers US troops.

I don't think it does. But if so, you should be able to easily prove it. But be careful!
If publishing photos of that ilk stir the enemy to also commit "atrocities", then the NYT publishing the photo of a dead American being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu should have endangered alot of Somalis!

Did it? How many Somalis died directly as a result of that photo being published (by the "reckless" NYT, no less!)?

40 posted on 06/13/2009 12:41:52 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: skeeter
I don’t know who disgusts me more, Lynndie England or David Jones.

What skeeter said...

41 posted on 06/13/2009 12:43:25 PM PDT by umbagi
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To: jeffc

Your Mogadishu comparison assumes that US Soldiers react identically like Islamist terrorists.

I don’t think so.


42 posted on 06/13/2009 12:44:36 PM PDT by SolidWood (www.firedavidletterman.com)
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To: Big_Monkey
Torture? Looked just like the crap that goes on in the Gay Day Parades in San Francisco.

That whole thing proved that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" fails to keep sexual perverts out of the military and that it should be replaced with a far tougher standard.

43 posted on 06/13/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SolidWood

Not nearly as “grave” as what Uday and Qusay Hussein did to eleven and twelve -year-old schoolgirls that they had sent up to the Palace every day for their “pleasure”.

Remember what had just gone on before...remember who we were freeing the Iraqui people from.

What Lynndie did was a picnic in the park by comparison.

For goodness sake, buy yourself a sense of proportionality.


44 posted on 06/13/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: jeffc

Americans are used to following a different standard. That doesn’t mean they didn’t want to turn Somalia into a glass parking lot.


45 posted on 06/13/2009 12:45:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Big_Monkey

Isn’t she the one who posed with a leash on a prisoner and (horror of horrors) put panties on some guys head? What a load of horse sheet....freaks out in LA pay good money for that kind of treatment.


46 posted on 06/13/2009 12:47:21 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: driftdiver
"Her crime was giving the left and anti-americans a tool to use against us."

No my FRiend, her crime was violating her oath of service (and oath sworn before God, I should add), and every principle of appropriate prisoner treatment as defined in the Army Field Manuel.

I don't know one military officer (and I know a lot), that condones, in any way, what she and her cohorts did.

You can take issue with how the foreign and domestic media used these pictures and this story, I know that I do. But, her conduct is indefensible.

47 posted on 06/13/2009 12:47:49 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: jeffc
If publishing photos of that ilk stir the enemy to also commit "atrocities", then the NYT publishing the photo of a dead American being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu should have endangered alot of Somalis!

Are Americans fighting a war in Mogadishu? Here's a better analogy......you see a picture of your relatives in a naked dogpile in prison...Does it make you happy...or sad....? Can I put it simpler than that?

48 posted on 06/13/2009 12:48:45 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Maelstorm
The people who should be sorry are those who allowed this one event to be blown out of proportion. The liberal media cost lives of both our soldiers and Iraqis who suffered from their overstatement of case.

Exactly right. I say we start with the lamestream media who did their level best to discredit the war in Iraq from the beginning, and did everything humanly possible to make our troops look bad and the United States of America the villain.

49 posted on 06/13/2009 12:50:23 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SolidWood

US troops and Americans have been dying at the hands of arabs long before these pictures were taken.


50 posted on 06/13/2009 12:50:45 PM PDT by rabidralph
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