Posted on 06/13/2009 12:26:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
DOMA is the federal statute that says state X, which prohibits gay marriage, can’t be forced to recognize a gay marriage performed in state Y. As Tapper reminds us, candidate Obama opposed it in 2007. Two years later, Change has come to America. Question: Why does the president hate gay people?
Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said that President Obama “has said he wants to see a legislative repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act because it prevents LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) couples from being granted equal rights and benefits,” she said. “However, until Congress passes legislation repealing the law, the administration will continue to defend the statute when it is challenged in the justice system.”…
The Obama administration cited Catalano v. Catalano (marriage of uncle to niece, “though valid in Italy under its laws, was not valid in Connecticut because it contravened the public policy of th[at] state”); Wilkins v. Zelichowski (marriage of 16-year-old female held invalid in New Jersey, regardless of validity in Indiana where performed, in light of N.J. policy reflected in statute permitting adult female to secure annulment of her underage marriage), and re Mortenson’s Estate, (marriage of first cousins held invalid in Arizona, though lawfully performed in New Mexico, given Arizona policy reflected in statute declaring such marriages “prohibited and void”).
“Holy cow,” wrote [Americablog's John] Aravosis. “Obama invoked incest and people marrying children.”
Consider this another one of those highly nuanced, “pragmatic” reversals that the media — sans Tapper, natch — will helpfully overlook. “But wait,” you say, “isn’t the president duty bound to enforce a federal statute until Congress gets around to repealing it?” Why, er, no. Back in 2000, a little-known law passed in 1968 that purported to override the Warren Court’s “Miranda warnings” was challenged before the Supreme Court. Clinton’s DOJ actually sided with the criminal in arguing that the Miranda case was based on the Fifth Amendment and therefore the statute was unconstitutional; the Supremes had to invite a law professor unconnected to the case to defend the statute at oral arguments. (The DOJ/criminal dynamic duo won.) The charitable view of this is that The One’s thinking strategically, knowing there’d be a backlash against gay marriage if states that prohibit it were suddenly forced to recognize gay unions performed in, say, Iowa. He’s only looking out for the best interests of gays, you see. The uncharitable view is that he’s worried that the backlash would cripple his reelection chances, no matter how much it might please his gay constituents, and therefore he’s better off defending DOMA. You don’t think our Barry would be that cynical, do you?
ping.
1."I think people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish. Any kind of arrangement they wish. The question of whether or not there ought to be a federal statute to protect this, I don’t support. I do believe that the historically the way marriage has been regulated is at the state level. It has always been a state issue and I think that is the way it ought to be handled, on a state-by-state basis … But I don’t have any problem with that. People ought to get a shot at that”
2.“I do not support gay marriage. Marriage has religious and social connotations, and I consider marriage to be between a man and a woman… I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”
1. Dick Cheney. 2. Barak Obama
We should be pounding the left with this.. they like to split our side up on issues, time to give it back to them.
Tackling gay marriage is asecond-term issue, not a first term issue. Since voters constantly shoot down gay marriage at the polls, Zero has to wait until he doesn’t have to worry about losing an election. So, for now, he’s pretending to reflect the will of the people. That, like everything else he ‘stands for’, will change soon.
LOL, right! As if they didn't get the word to throw the case...
Muslims don’t like gays... he has a real dilemna on his hands.
Even better explanation than mine. Thanks for clarifying
Ya, I want to see what kind of defense they mount. He would like this law repealed, so he wouldn’t want to see a strong defense of it would he? It would make his life and liberals lives so much easier if the courts just go all the way and declare marriage laws unconstitutional.
Means nothing, other than this half-breed is backpedaling...This is the type of disgraceful low-thinking that hobbles conservatives in general and FR in particular.
Featured prominantly at the top of the thread no less.
There is/was an old saying:”Beware of a Greek bearing a gift.”
I do not trust anything that obama or his desciples do.
Even less when it appears to be something good.
He’s been called far worse things on FR by better people than I, and as for the description, it is quite accurate.
As for your assumption that I might be a backwards hick, you’re the one with the prejudices. You have nary a clue who I am....
Half-breed is a racially disparaging term and has no place on FR.
Now it’s racially disparaging? You choose to believe it has to do with race. I never mentioned race, YOU did.
Since when did we start becoming so overly sensitive and politically correct around here?
If half-breed isn’t a racial term then what is it? I hate President Zero but I will insult him in ways that don’t involve his parentage. If you think that half-breed isn’t a racial insult then you are just dumb. Don’t let people get the idea that white supremacists are welcome here.
The Obama-Justice defense of DOMA could, in the end, NOT be what it appears to be right now.
It may in fact simply be a defense of federal legislative intervention in a matter that has historically been left to state law.
If that is what they are attempting to do - defend federal legislative intervention in the matter (as opposed to Const. amendment), and SCOTUS upholds that rationale, Obama and the Dims would have a judicial green light to proceed with federal legislation that would amount to the opposite of DOMA.
You have to be on of the dumbest conservatives I have run across if you don’t think half-breed is a racial insult. Learn a little bit and stop being an arrogant dumbass like our president. And your earlier quote has nothing to do with anything. Get your brain in gear and start thinking.
I think it is more that he is a muslim and hates gays deep in his heart.
On the other hand... they want polygamy.
But he’ll just set up sharia courts I guess... hey works in the UK, all the wives get benefits.
Does Halfrican sound less racist ?
Hmmm... no.
It HAS to appear that way though.
He’s being pulled in a lot of directions, it will be interesting to see what shakes out.
He will really be buggered over this.
Hmmmm....yes..
Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said that President Obama “has said he wants to see a legislative repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act because it prevents LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) couples from being granted equal rights and benefits,” she said
Horse shit.The want special rights.They already have the same right as every other citizen.They just don’t want that right they want one that promotes their perversion.
You first, white-guilter.
People that think like you voted Obama.
The fact that your ancestry carries guilt and cultural references to the term “half-breed” isn’t my problem. To me, it’s nothing more than a technically accurate, though very primitive term that Obama himself chose to draw attention to with his “doesn’t look like those other Presidents on those dollar bills” comment. How soon many forget around here.
Hypocrite. It’s OK for Obama to discuss his racial component, but it’s not ok for me? You know where you can stick it.
I’m no racist, but you ARE a guilty loser.
If DOMA falls in the Supreme Court it’s all over. Doesn’t matter if your state forbids same-sex marriage, the “Full Faith and Credit Clause” circumvents it (which is what DOMA short circuits and prevents).
This is why gay/lesbian groups are going to state-friendly legislations and courts....to essentially build a “concensus” so the Surpreme court will take up the matter (DOMA) and officially rule on it.
The prior question is “WHY do we have marriage?”
http://stumpedagain.wordpress.com/category/religion-and-society/
Answer: ...For the protection of women and children.
Are you saying Choco-Carter is supporting DOMA at the front door, but supports the legal movements by LGBT groups at the back door?
Of course he is! He’s a bi-sexual homo-Marxist!
This DoMA defense is a sop to the A-A church-goin' (the same ones that passed Prop 8 in Kalifornia); but it's also a wedge issue that we can use to get the sheeple to sit on their hands next time.
I call 0 a "half-fro" myself.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
All right smart white man, what does half-breed mean?
The term “half-breed” in America is an archaic term that dates back to the 1750’s, when American Indian and European bloodlines mixed, the offspring were known as “half-breeds”.
This, in fact, applies to ME. in the true American cultural historical sense, I AM A HALF-BREED, and in my upbringing and my parent’s country of origin, this term is NOT OFFENSIVE.
Now, in the technical sense, this would apply to animals of somewhat similar species that normally don’t breed.
This is more closely what I was referring to, though maybe not EXACTLY.
The remaining definitions are modern day corruptions of the 1750’s use of the term that I don’t acknowledge. If this term was used in a classic western, that’s where I recognize it from.
I in fact love the historical reference to the term, as it brings to light that America dealt with race issues prior to the Revolutionary War.
As for Obama, I’m highlighting the fact that HE HAS NO RACE AT ALL. HE CAN’T CLAIM TO BE EITHER ONE, and anyone that tries to claim that he is “African American” is very mistaken.
I apologize to my fellow half-breeds for insulting you by categoring Obama in with the rest of us.
As for the rest of you, maybe you should start watching some old westerns and SEE HOW AMERICA WAS REALLY FORMED!
There. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
"twelve states ban any recognition of any form of same-sex unions including civil union, twenty-eight states have adopted amendments to their state constitution prohibiting same-sex marriage, and another twenty states have enacted statutory DOMAs"
That is just absolutely kick-ass! Is that you?
Did it take you all afternoon to put all that together? It really doesn't wash - people here aren't dumb you know.
Regardless, I'd rather not "smoke it." Bull***t doesn't cook well or taste very good when smoked.
It appears that you - at least to some degree - feel badly about the original post. Why not just admit that and move on instead of (so verbosely) attempting to put a new coat of paint it?
Get rid of the other guy too.
Admin, I am being threatened by email, I’m being erroneously insulted, and I have been improperly silenced. I respectfully request you replace the comment #2 I posted. As a half-Hispanic, half-South American Indian, ALL HALF-BREED that I am, I am being discriminated against.
Good points.
Sheesh, get over yourself. You haven’t been silenced and the poster who attacked you has been banned.
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