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Marx-Engels Correspondence, 1862
MECW ^ | 1913

Posted on 06/14/2009 12:09:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

[Please note the second paragraph in article] Karl Marx was a vehement racist and anti-Semite (yes, even though both his grandfathers were rabbis!) This particular quote is not an aberration but very typical of both his and Engel's thoughts.

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I first became aware of the vehement racism and anti-Semitism of Marx and Engels when I read a book by Edward Hallett Carr of Cambridge University (Karl Marx: A Study in Fanaticism). The 11th chapter was entitled The "Jewish Nigg--" taken from what Marx called a rival. The late (d.1982) E.H. Carr was probably the greatest historian of Marxism in the 20th century, beginning with his 14 volume history of the Soviet Union. I've posted this because, I believe, the far-Left of today has inherited the Marxist legacy of hatred and intolerance. They are the ultimate hypocrites for professing what they neither believe nor practice. As one historian put it, Marx didn't love the proletariat; he just hated the bourgeoisie. I think that mentality still serves as the motive-force for most of the Left.
1 posted on 06/14/2009 12:09:03 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Great summary. Thanks for posting this Correspondence as well.


2 posted on 06/14/2009 12:12:06 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: T.L.Sink
Thank you. It's always better to learn about history from the source.

You can better judge motivations and beliefs behind the actions of historical figures.

3 posted on 06/14/2009 12:28:39 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: T.L.Sink
Harsh stuff. Engles and marx combined. Can you feel the leftist love?
4 posted on 06/14/2009 12:29:40 PM PDT by allmost
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To: T.L.Sink
Sounds like the 78% of liberal Jews who voted for the Second coming of Allah/Muhammed in telepropmpter form.

Hussein could via live CNN/MSNBC coverage in Tehran with Akmadimijad (spelling??) - pres the button to launch nukes to wipe Israel off the map.

Liberal American Jews would blame Bush while MSNBC/CNN anchors would be breathless at Obama’s bold “initiative.” Jimmy Carter would be interviewed claiming that now there could finally be peace in the Middle East.

5 posted on 06/14/2009 12:32:32 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: TheThinker

without the scrubbing from the left


6 posted on 06/14/2009 12:42:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: T.L.Sink

99.999% of pre-1900 personal correspondence is horrifically racist by modern standards.


7 posted on 06/14/2009 1:00:05 PM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: T.L.Sink

Rule #1 when dealing with people who want to control ANY group of people. They themselves are flaming racists.

What they “mean” when they say that they want equality is that they want equality for “Their chosen”. The rest are merely niggers, Jews, Jew-like etc.

Rule #2 when they give rights to the “lower classes” it means that they are to be controlled, kept separate, educated only for (specific - non desired jobs), and never given full rights and privileges.


8 posted on 06/14/2009 1:00:31 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Frantzie

Speaking of CNN, I just saw Christiane Amanpour (her father’s name was Mohammed, I kid you not!) in her Islamic costume spouting her usual excuses for Islamofascism. I don’t even take MSNBC seriously enough to listen to their never-ending DNC propaganda. By the way, if you’d like an article I posted on FR about Jimmy Carter’s anti-Semitism, let me know.


9 posted on 06/14/2009 1:19:29 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Terabitten

Racism, in the modern meaning, only really began in the 19th century. But so did the anti-slavery and democratic movements in Europe and America.


10 posted on 06/14/2009 1:26:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

It’s sort of like those blacks who rush to buy all those T-shirts featuring the racist Che.


11 posted on 06/14/2009 1:29:15 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: T.L.Sink

Marx may have been a self-hating anti-Semite, but the effect of his works was quite profoundly Jewish. If you look at the membership of the Bolsheviks, their central committee consisted of 90 per cent plus Jewish members. Lenin and a host of other key early Soviet officials were Jewish. I don’t really buy the anti-Semitic angle of the article.


12 posted on 06/14/2009 3:29:40 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: GOP Poet

“How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.” - Ronald Reagan


13 posted on 06/14/2009 3:33:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Fractal Trader

True, but Joe Stalin was a rabid anti-semite, probably the main reason for his rivalry with Trotsky. To a large degree, Adolf Hitler solved Stalin’s “Jewish Problem” during the first part of Operation Barbarossa.


14 posted on 06/14/2009 3:34:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I just read a biography by the editor of the Stalin archives. Certainly, starting after WWII, Stalin moved towards anti-semitism and, at the time of his death, was seeking to exterminate jews (I think it was called the Doctor’s Plot”). However, I think that most of his career he worked with other jews in the government without any noticeable fights. He often played different factions against each other, but I don’t think that you can find serious, documented anti-Semitism until later in his career.

He certainly had many Jews that he dealt with on a regular basis in his government for a long part of his time in office. And, of course, he had to get along with Lenin and the rest in order to get into the position that he had.


15 posted on 06/14/2009 3:57:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: AmericanVictory

Exactly. I wonder how many of them who buy those Che T-shirts really know Guevara was a pathological murderer. He even had a young boy disciple of his shot for stealing a little food. He was so bad that even Castro wanted to get him out of Cuba. This “revolutionary chic” trend has been based on total ignorance of the historical record. (and ignorance is the kindest motive that be ascribed to it!)


16 posted on 06/15/2009 6:42:58 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: dfwgator; Fractal Trader

I have several good books by Russians who write convincingly that Stalin from 1948 to his death in 1953 was indeed planning a holocaust for the Jews. When he died Beria immediately terminated such plans. And, by the way, he at the same time released Molotov’s Jewish wife from her internment camp. Stalin’s anti-Semitism wasn’t the old garden variety Russian anti-Semitism. It was definitely of the the genocidal sort. If you guys would like the titles of some of these books I’d be happy to provide them. It’s also a paradox that all Stalin’s formal education was from the Orthodox seminary in Tiflis. Good thing he never was ordained to holy orders in the Russian Orthodox Chuch!


17 posted on 06/15/2009 7:00:57 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Fractal Trader

You’re right about so many Bolsheviks being Jewish - Kamenev, Zinoviev, Kagonovich, Rykov, etc. But Lenin was not Jewish and was baptized in the Orthodox Church. However, his maternal grandfather (Blank) was a Jew who converted to Christianity.


18 posted on 06/15/2009 7:05:56 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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Stalin knew exactly when Hitler would attack, yet he left the front virtually defenseless. Why? Because Western Russia and Ukraine were where most of the Jews lived. Stalin knew what Hitler’s plans for them were. So why not let Hitler do Stalin’s dirty work for him, before eventually overcoming the Nazis with their superior numbers, and leaving the Soviet Union virtually “Judenfrei” afterwards.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 7:18:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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