Birth Certificate, Dying Granny (interesting point)

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[cycle of discernment]

Posted by Pylgram Jun 14, 2009 - 5:53PM

Birth Certificate, Dying Granny

Obama's Admission

From "Dreams..." -- page 26, last paragraph:

"I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It's a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I'm left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father's part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father's imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents."

This paragraph exists in "Dreams from My Father." It is proof that Obama's birth certificate exists, that his grandmother had a copy, and that he's seen it. So he knows what's on it, and whatever it is -- or isn't -- it's the reason he is fighting its release so ferociously.

Undoubtedly, this knowledge provided the motivation for the ransacking of his grandmother Dunham's apartment within hours of her death. He was looking for this document before it fell into the "wrong" hands.

[icwhatudo]

“Undoubtedly, this knowledge provided the motivation for the ransacking of his grandmother Dunham’s apartment within hours of her death. He was looking for this document before it fell into the “wrong” hands.”

Linky?

[jessduntno]

Disturbing...as is most of this misadventure with the Kenyan...

[Tennessee Nana]

No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether

1. the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure.
2.Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner;
3. or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for.
4. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”
_______________________________________

5. or my father was not my father so why would he mention me ...

[jonrick46]

I would love information about this ransacking. Is there a reference to it on the Web?

[MHGinTN]

The paragraph to which you referred is only dispositive if the affirmative action figure is telling the truth. We know he lies without hesitation, so how can you trust anything he wrote or had ghost written in his ‘autobiographical fictions’?

[cycle of discernment]

Obama to travel to see ill grandmother

By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 10/20/08

Barack Obama will leave the campaign trail Thursday to travel to Hawaii to see his 85-year-old grandmother, who has fallen ill, spokesman Robert Gibbs said Monday.

“In the last few weeks her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious,” Gibbs told reporters aboard Obama’s campaign plane.

The change of plans means Obama will scrap scheduled rallies Thursday in Des Moines, Iowa, and Madison, Wisc. He will instead head to Indianapolis, Ind., for a morning event, leave for Hawaii and return to the campaign trail Saturday, making stops in the West.

His grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, “has always been one of the most important people in his life,” Gibbs said. “Along with his mother and his grandfather, she raised him in Hawaii from the time he was born to the moment he left for college.”

Gibbs would not disclose her medical condition, other than to say it was “very serious.” She was released from the hospital last week, Gibbs said.

“The decision that Sen. Obama is making to go to Hawaii underscores the seriousness of the situation,” Gibbs said.

Michelle Obama will hold events in place of her husband Friday in Akron, Ohio, and Columbus, Ohio, the campaign said in a statement.

[Theodore R.]

Our problem is that the sleeping American people don’t mind and are clueless to the bone.

[freekitty]

I don’t think in those terms; but there was a video of Obama alledgely going to his grandmother’s house in Hawaii; possibly to look for those documents. I don’t really remember if it was right before she died or right after.

[Sola Veritas]

“Undoubtedly, this knowledge provided the motivation for the ransacking of his grandmother Dunham’s apartment within hours of her death. He was looking for this document before it fell into the “wrong” hands.”

As much as I want to believe Mr. Obama “ransacked” his grandmother’s apartment.....where is the proof of such a statement? I think he is hiding the truth about the circumstances or his birth....although I’m not sure what that truth is....Kenyan birth or just something embarassing to him, but not necessarily POTUS disqualifying. I don’t know. I wished is was Kenyan birth so he could be ruled ineligible for POTUS....but I doubt that is the case. Truth is, he is ineligible by the fact that his father was not a U.S. citizen and the time of his birth. Therefore, he is not a natural born citizen with no possiblity of divided loyalty.

Whatever, I agree with ichatudo....where is the link to proof about the ransacking?

[lightman]

It might not be the nationality on the certificate but the race.

What if it read, “RACE = CAUCASIAN” ???

[ckilmer]

Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. dJoe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts. Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.

[BARLF]

or my father was not my father so why would he mention me ...

As someone posted here a few days ago......."That One" has left no foot prints so maybe he doesn't even exist.

[Tennessee Nana]

Oh, he did exist...

But maybe not quite so close to Stanley Ann...

[DBrow]

“Undoubtedly, this knowledge provided the motivation for the ransacking of his grandmother Dunham’s apartment “

We are criticized by the MSM of not checking our facts, or doing due diligence (I know, like Dan Rather did). We usually are better than they are in that respect.

Do you have backup for the ransacking assertion you have made? You have made a very bold statement.

If not, you should pull this thread.

[cycle of discernment]

The poster that advanced this theory was obviously connecting dots circumstantially.

It is true when this first heated up in July 2008 it was either Andy Martin or Jerome Corsi that went to Hawaii to dig up the “goods”....Obama made his first impromptu trip to Hawaii to visit his beloved grandmother exactly at the same time. Michelle and the kids did not even go up to granny’s apartment with him to see her. He stayed behind closed doors about two hours.

Then later, in October, again Andy Martin was broadcasting he was going in person and also had a PI on the case in Hawaii to track down the real birth documents, this is when we heard Obama had to drop everything mid-campaign to run back to Hawaii to see his ‘dying’ grandmother, who had been released from the hospital ( which is confusing if she was dying).

I believe there was some dispute about her actual date of death.

The key here is both times Obama raced to Hawaii ( unplanned) were precipitated by high profile investigative journalists going there to find his documents.

Also there is some evidence Obama had not visited his grandmother ( the “typical white person” that Michelle and kids did not even bother to see) routinely at all before this..his sister Maya was local and saw the grandmother on a routine basis.

[Texas Fossil]

Kenyan birth or just something embarassing to him

No Father Listed on the Birth Certificate?

Listed as Barry Dunham on the Birth Certificate?

Listed as Barry Toots on the Birth Certificate?

Listed as Barry Davis on the Birth Certificate?

Regardless, His actions have dispelled any doubt that he is not qualified to be there?

Like the Post Turtle.

[cycle of discernment]

I posted what another blogger wrote, it is his conjecture I found interesting. Read my earlier post for context.

[mountainlion]

Oh dear, our president comes form a broken home!

[smokingfrog]

A father’s charm, absence
Friends recall Barack Obama Sr. as a self-confident, complex dreamer whose promising life ended in tragedy
September 21, 2008

Obama never told his friends that he had a wife and two children back in Africa. He told Dunham only that he was separated from his first wife. In 1961, the couple went to Maui and were married. Several months later, Dunham gave birth to a baby boy. His name was Barack Obama Jr., and his father was thrilled.

****

“After all, there was another Obama in the world. Perhaps he would take after him,” Abercrombie recalled. Obama graduated with honors in 1962. Earlier that year he was offered a scholarship to pursue a doctorate at Harvard, which provided enough money for Obama but not for his wife and son, according to the candidates’ memoir. Obama decided to go anyway.

In a May 1962 letter to Mboya, Obama waxed excitedly about his plans for Harvard. He made no mention of his second wife and new son, but Mboya, who had recently been appointed Kenya’s minister of labor, was aware that Obama had a child in Hawaii, and was not happy about Obama’s plans to leave his son behind, according to Susan Mboya. In one of a series of letters the two men exchanged, Mboya chastised his protégé, Susan Mboya said. She declined to release the letters. But Tom Mboya eventually relented, according to his daughter, “for he saw that the opportunity for Obama was very great.”

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/09/21/a_fathers_charm_absence/?page=4

[PubliusMM]

Given what we now know, it might be a bit foolish to assume anything written (purportedly) by 0bama is the truth, in any way, shape or form.

For my part, I believe he knows full well that he is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of Senator or President, and is perpetrating the greatest political fraud in US history.

It’s time to take back the country.

[Don Corleone]

his mother and his grandfather, she raised him in Hawaii from the time he was born to the moment he left for college.”

Except for how many years that he was in Indonesia and Pakistan????

[danamco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujugUiFtBKU

[jonrick46]

I wonder if there are any witnesses to documents leaving the house or anyone seeing evidence of activity suggesting a search?

Did you notice the story about the disposition of “Toots” ashes? Rather than having her ashes next to her husband, Zer0 scattered them in the sea. Was there something about those ashes that he wanted disposed of?

[tioga]

nah, ashes are ashes........but he distributed them ILLEGALLY into the sea......LOL...what a hoot that was.

[DBrow]

Repeating a blogger or reporter without checking just perpetuates the original error.

Your earlier post (#5?) does not clear it up.

Lots of people are going to read this and think that there is some factual basis for the “ransacking Grannys home looking for the birth certificate” story, when it’s just some fantasy someone had. It will get added to the “Birther” myths and will help toss the real birth certificate issues into the realm of the Truthers, where it is accepted that fire can’t melt steel, and Bush planted demo charges in WTC.

I’ve said my piece, carry on as you see fit.

[jonrick46]

If at some future time there was the science to detect in those ashes that Toots was given medication to hasten her death, then ashes would be very good evidence.

[aruanan]

So someone needs to do a search through all articles published before, say, 1971, that mention Barack Obama, Sr.. Lexis-Nexis Academic returned several hits with dates of 1970 and 1969 but they mentioned “President-elect Barack Obama” so L-N dating isn’t trustworthy.

[cycle of discernment]

Post #17

[Red Steel]

As much as I want to believe Mr. Obama “ransacked” his grandmother’s apartment.....where is the proof of such a statement?

He's filling in the blanks. Obama made strange visits to Hawaii during the campaign. Strangely sought out the Hawaiian governor and when she didn't show up at the Governor's meeting, Obama's hacks castigated the Governor. Was he worried about something? Visited his grandma alone for just an hour without any family member. Grandma's death announcement 24 hours before the election. The circumstances are unknown when she really died. Did she die in the hospital or did she die at home. Are autopsies done when people die some place other than the hospital? Usually, there is some functionary investigation if the person died outside a medical institution. There should be a death certificate on her, so where is it? And this isn't all the questions.

[patriot08]

“I believe there was some dispute about her actual date of death.”

Google, “OBAMA, HALF-SISTER & HAWAII OFFICALS FALSIFY MADELYN DUNHAM DEATH RECORDS”

[patriot08]

‘
There was suposedly a story/picture re; Michelle Obama jumping into Obama’s arms hooping and hollering after her ashes were dumped over the cliff into the sea. Know anything about that?

.

[cycle of discernment]

OBAMA, HALF-SISTER & HAWAII OFFICALS FALSIFY MADELYN DUNHAM DEATH RECORDS

By Larry Sinclair

On October 21, 2008 Barack Obama announced that he would be suspending his campaign after a rally in Indianapolis on Thursday morning, October 23, 2008 to fly to Hawaii to visit with his “gravely ill grandmother.” Barack Obama further stated that Madelyn L. Dunham had recently been hospitalized and was back at home after suffering a broken hip. Obama made it clear on October 22, 2008 that there “will be absolutely no video or photo ops during my upcoming visit with my ailing grandmother,” and “I do not expect my grandmother to make it to election day.”

On Friday October 24, 2008 Michelle Obama during a campaign rally for her husband claimed that “I spoke with tutu last night and she is strong and in good health.”

On Friday October 24, 2008 I placed two calls to the home of Madelyn Dunham, in one of those calls I spoke with Obama half-sister Maya Ng http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/10/i-just-spoke-with-senator-obamas-sister.html where Maya claimed Mrs. Dunham could not talk.

On November 3, 2008 both the news media and Barack Obama announced that Madelyn L. Dunham had passed away on that date. Mrs. Dunham was to have celebrated her 89th birthday on the Sunday following Barack Obama’s visit, yet no one, not even Barack Obama stopped to wish his “gravely ill” grandmother a Happy Birthday.

After first announcing that Madelyn Dunham had passed away in her sleep on November 3, 2008 (conveniently the day before election day for the sympathy vote) it was reported by Hawaii officials and then by Obama half-sister Maya Ng that Mrs. Dunham had in fact passed away on November 2, 2008.

Both reports it turns out are false and it has been reported that Maya Ng and Hawaii officials knowingly and intentionally falsified death records of Madelyn L. Dunham who had actually died prior to Barack Obama arriving on Thursday October 23, 2008 for his claimed visit.

According to sources employed in the coroner’s office Madelyn Dunham died on October 21, 2008 and was cremated on Friday October 24, 2008. It is further claimed that the death records of Madelyn L Dunham were falsified at the direct and specific request of Barack Obama and Maya Ng.

I have forwarded a letter to the Hawaii Attorney Generals office requesting and investigation and forwarded the information received regarding the falsifying of the death and cremation records of Madelyn L Dunham. If this information is factual Barack Obama has demonstrated his total disregard for any life, including the life of the woman who made it possible for him to be a spoiled, drug using, closet bi/gay fraud.

Furthermore the fact that Michelle Obama knew and assisted in concealing this fraud along with the US Secret Service assigned to protect Barack Obama makes them conspirators to this crime.

Today Barack Obama participated in the scattering of the ashes of Madelyn L Dunham who he used and exploited.

[TheConservativeParty]

I wonder if the gag order on all Twiggy’s Kenyan relatives is still active? Probably so. Can’t have them blabbing the truth to the media! Cousin Odinga has that all under control.

[patriot08]

Sorry, should be ‘whooping’.

[Cicero]

I thought at the time that he probably visited his grandmother in order to clean any documents such as the paper birth certificate out of her apartment.

It was noticeable that he did not bother to bring his wife or children to meet his grandmother before her death, although they had never met her.

It was also noticeable that he did not bother to go back for her funeral.

I think he got what he went for.

[danamco]

His grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, “has always been one of the most important people in his life,” Gibbs said.

I don't believe that for one second!

Michelle and the two daughters allegedly never visit Great grandma when they all visit Hawaii (when she had had a hip replacement?) where his business probably was only as to secure that famous B.C.!!

Interestingly. Grandma was never displayed or being part of the campaign, which would have been a normal thing to do. I believe wife Michelle did NOT like the "whitie" grandma!!!

[jonrick46]

It was my #5 post that questions the “ransacking” description. I am with you. Where is the evidence that it happened? It gives us who want answers a bad name.

Right now Michael Medved is calling us “Birthers” as kooks and we should just drop the inquiry. He cites that a birth certificate showing that Zer0 was born in Hawaii was posted on his website. That document is good enough for Michael Medved. However, what Medved does not understand is that the document posted on the Internet was a fake document. When one realizes that, one wants to know what is on the real document.

[donna]

BARACK OBAMA visit honolulu hawaii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toG64ouxbCg

[jonrick46]

Michelle was not at that ceremony. She was back home getting the girls set for school.

[jersey117]

Disturbing...

Everything about the stranger in our White House is downright creepy.

[GBA]

Such a sudden death...oddly and conveniently timed for the election. Just a random act of nature, I’m sure.

[txhurl]

His half-sister was. Maya Soetoro.

[MilspecRob]

high profile investigative journalists

.LMAO

[Cicero]

Yes, that occurred to me, too. She was basically put under house arrest, unable to talk to the press, for the previous year. And then she conveniently died right after Obama went to Hawaii to pick up the birth certificate, and right before election day.

There’s a pattern, since his Kenyan relatives were also put under house arrest, unable to talk to the press. And his Aunt in Boston was moved to a safe house somewhere, appeared publicly with several lawyers when a judge extended her stay in the US for a year, and now has dropped out of sight again.

[cycle of discernment]

Just saw this new on youtube:

OBAMA POISONED HIS GRANDMOTHER2-THE VIDEO THAT WILL END THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09r4B27wgFA&annotation_id=annotation_960535&feature=iv

[Brytani]

SSSI (Social Security Death Index) lists her death as

Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued Tools Order
Record?
MADELYN LEE PAYNE DUNHAM 26 Oct 1922 02 Nov 2008 (P) 96826 (Honolulu, Honolulu, HI) (none specified) 558-20-7458 California SS-5 Letter
Add Post-em
Search Ancestry.com Click here to order a copy of the original record

So she died 3 days before the election and every news account I’ve brought up on google had her date of death as such.

AS for there not being an autopsy with her dying at home, that is not usual at all in any state. A person who is on hospice care, either fully at home and returned to their home to die will not be given a state autopsy since their death was imminent and a Doctor is available on-call for the patient. It happens all over the country, every single day without question.

Her Obituary says she passed away from cancer and can be found on dozens of obituaries pulled up on google.

What you have claimed on this post can easily be found with a few clicks of a mouse. There are enough questions surrounding Obama’s birth certificate and eligibility to hold the office of president without making claims that are so easy to debunk.

[patriot08]

‘
Somewhere I read that that happened.
Beckwith was looking for the photo..something to the effect that after the ashes were tossed, there was a photo of her jumping into Obama’s arms whooping and hollering.
Anybody else read that?
.

[cycle of discernment]

Why was she cremated— when her husband was buried and had secured a burial plot next to him?