Posted on 06/14/2009 9:29:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
One of the most dangerous places on earth is our own 2,000-mile border with Mexico. Our southern border is a drug-war zone, and we’re losing. Know it.
Before she became secretary of Homeland Security, former Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano declared a state of emergency along the Arizona/Mexico border because of drug trafficking, shootouts and an increasing illegal immigration invasion.
The Justice Department stated that Mexican drug cartels are the “largest threat to both citizens and law enforcement agencies in this country” with gang members loose in nearly 200 U.S. cities.”
This in the big, bad, brave United States of America! How can this be?
There isn’t a city in America that has not been scorched by drug-related violence.
In 2008 the drug cartels killed more than 4,000 Mexicans. Almost 500 Mexican police officers and soldiers have been killed since January 2007.
Add to this increasing acts of violence against Border Patrol agents by the well-financed and well-armed drug cartels. They are as evil an adversary as the voodoo terrorist Taliban our soldiers face in Afghanistan.
President Obama has stated he will go after the cartels and increase efforts to combat gang-related crime. Good. But he better be prepared to wage war with them with more than just soaring rhetoric.
I’m aware there are prominent conservatives who make strong arguments in favor of legalizing drugs — for one, that it will take away a tool of organized crime.
I don’t believe that. Legalizing drugs would be like pouring gasoline on a blazing fire in hopes of extinguishing it.
We have all the laws we need to fight drugs. What America needs is the willpower and a renewed warrior spirit to crush evil and evil-doers.
I was ready to serve
Unfortunately, the president tapped former Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske as his drug czar. Kerlikowske then suggested we tone down our “war on drugs” rhetoric.
I disagree. Too bad you didn’t pick me, Mr. President.
Hippies, dopeheads, corrupt politicos and various forms of human debris hate me, making me the perfect for the job.
As drug czar, I would charge our mayors and police departments to commit to fighting the drug gangs. It would be our top priority. Our inner cities will remain war zones until we commit to taking the trash out.
America needs to better arm our Border Patrol agents and we need more of them.
The governors of the border states should call out the National Guard to assist the Border Patrol in securing the border. As drug czar, I would challenge them to do this today, as I would the governments of Mexico and South America.
Working with the Colombian government a few years back, U.S. Special Forces filled Pablo Escobar with bullet holes. Until assuming room temperature, he controlled 80 percent of all the cocaine shipped into America.
Every American who smokes dope, manufactures, buys or sells meth or uses any illegal drug is aiding and abetting the enemies of America. Case closed.
This spiritual inbreeding and cannibalism must be identified, admitted and stopped immediately. America can and must do this. Good over evil. Next.
Sigh. Just can't learn from the mistake called Prohibition, can we?
Sigh. If college students ruled the world we’d be so much better off.
Exactly.
When everyone is a criminal, who benefits?
Big Government.
Ted Nugent would get the job done! I would put drug dealers to death and toy with the idea for drug users. Or is that too extreme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aSglGw88U
East meets West ;o) God Bless Texas!
Some people just have to impose themselves on others as a means of compensating for certain deficiencies in their persons, psychological, physiological, or otherwise.
F;;k no, I was being serious. Sorry if that offends you.
Hmm, I’m sure you have a 11x17 photo of Stalin on your mantle because that’s the type of tone you’re taking here.
Yes.
I also have no use for nanny-statists that want to do something to someone for "their own sake".
/johnny
So once you’ve killed off like 80% of the population then what?
Dude, I love Freerepublic and appreciate our particular contingent of posters we have here. It’s just getting outrageous here, though. There’s at least 25 threads a day about big government intruding more and more on our daily lives. When it comes to the government intrusion that fits certain posters agenda they are all for it. These people are just as stupid as the f**king liberal left.
Telling them that you will kill them if they don't stop killing themselves is sorta silly.
/johnny
I imagine that would be where Ted Nugent and Rush Limbaugh would part ways on the drug war.
That’s always the problem with trying to shrink government. Everybody has a couple of chunks of government that, in spite of the rest of their political persuasion, they like. Usually it’s one that gives them money and one that makes them feel superior. Multiply that by 300 million people and no part of government ever goes away.
It’s like this, we are all free or none of us are.
I do have a picture of Ronald Reagan. Stalin would be more to your liking as he was bent on destroying our culture as well.
btw, what part did you not like? the death penalty for drug dealers? or the idea of using it on drug users? I am flexible on the second part.
what part? the first or the second? I am still trying to develop this idea.
I don't know what Roman poets have to do with the current discussion but I remember "Reefer Madness" which was supposed to scare everyone away from marijuana use in the 1930s. Those of us who saw it thought it was a comedy.
Let me ask this, have you ever taken any prescribed medication?
80% of the population? really? that’s a lot of people. A lot of frigging stupid people. Explains how a man like Obama could get elected.
Why not just expand the death penalty to tobacco users, too? After all, that's a controlled substance. And anyone who drinks beer. Or dares to have sex outside of marriage. Or drives an import instead of a domestic. Or uses a credit card instead of paying for everything in cash. Or...or...and the list goes on.
One defining characteristic of American society is the freedom to make decisions for yourself. By proposing that the Government be used to micromanage the lives of others, you are denying others their "unalienable rights" and setting up a political apparatus that can be used by other factions within our society to impose their will upon you at a later date.
/johnny
I'd put marijuana and powder cocaine dealers in jail for not less than 15 years.
In order to win the war on drugs, we must first the “hearts and minds” of the people. Therefore, we should not treat drug abusers the same as drug traffickers but instead we should teach drug abusers that the drug traffickers are their enemy. Instead of fighting a losing war on our own soil, we should take the fight to the enemy, and wage merciless war against the foreign drug cartels in their countries. We should fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.
I don’t imagine the threat of the death penalty would be much of a deterrent for drug dealers. After all, drug dealers are already being executed every day and have been for decades, by other drug dealers. Dealers are far more efficient than the state will ever be at reducing the number of dealers on the street.
If any governor or mayor were serious, that individual would call out the National Guard, cordon off areas of town, do stunning sweeps of neighborhoods, and arrest/harrass those who are involved in gangs or the drug trade. Prosecutors would go for the throat, not only of the gangbangerdrugdealer, but of friends, homies, girlfriends, and family members who support it. Our so-called prisons would be scaled down so as to be a REALLY unpleasant experience, and those who are caught who don't belong here, well, we can just fly them back to Mexico City.
We would have a wall, with ample guys to patrol it, to keep the crap out. Our citizens along the border would have back-up when and if undesirables decide to tramp across their land or try something illegal.
If the kind of crap going on in our cities were happening in, say, Bretwood or HyannisPort, the lib media would be up in arms: "Where is the Army? Why did that gangbanger just pop Mrs. Bufforfington's poodle? Let's ask him how he feels..." and so on. But we've let it go for so long, that drive-bys are almost normal for some neighborhoods. The downward slide continues, and people worry about the trash, instead of finding some way to take it out.
Societies have the right and responsiblity to deal with problems, just as a body has mechanisms in place to deal with diseases. Police are the antibodies, common citizens are the antibodies, the National Guard are the antibodies, but they are all hindered by attitudes, stupid regulations, or the "We can't be like......(fill in your favorite facist dictator, who really isn't relavant to the discussion)." Why can't they society be empowered to enforce the laws on the books now, instead of wringing our hands: "Oh, this is horrible. I'd like to do something, but I'm afraid I'll look like a tyrant." The time for caring what other people think is long over in this debate. Gangbangers, drug dealers, and their ilk have given up the right to co-exist with law abiding citizens in this society. C'mon, we're talking about idiots who shot someone for using sign language. Sign language! The gangbanger thought the guy was making gang signs, when he was just asking his wife in the car where to make the next turn. Sorry, but I can't justify the existance of someone like that with a straight face. Burn them all: their homes, their goods, their land, their weapons, their support system, all of it. Enough is enough. I'm with Ted on this one.
Love ted, but no, it won’t work. Criminalizing the drugs is simply a method of allowing criminal enterprise to grow stronger. We are not winning, we never have been, we never can be. I hate it as much as the next guy, but decriminalizing most illegal drugs would help out this Country a lot.
Which criminal enterprise? The drug cartels or the Federales in Washington?
Because of my music I’ve been around a lot of people who did drugs. And watching them as a sober non partaker the one thing that always struck me was the total lust in their eyes for what ever drug it was that they were about to partake.
They watch the one who’s rolling the joint and lick their lips, and their eyes never stray from that joint. They sometimes catch themselves lusting over it and force their gaze away but it always comes right back to the drug.
Coke? oh, when it’s coke, they are so much more lustful over watching the person who is doling out the lines for them. They almost drool at the mouth and they work their hands and lick their lips and their eyes are fixed in a lustful stare at the drug, as if they were a crazed starving animal about to feed.
It’s sad to watch them as a sober minded person. But they never see themselves as they really are. The drug whispers in their ear and suddenly it doesn’t matter if their children have lunch money for school the next day, because they will spend their last dime on the drugs.
There is a whole different world that lives all around and among us. The state workers I worked with for example. That funny smell on brake was the weed they’d stuffed in a real cigarette. No joke! They picked out half the tobacco and filled their cigarettes with weed.
The person you most respect? They might be doing lines of coke in the bathroom. Best way to tell? They lick their lips, constantly messing with their mouths and their nose seems to run a lot.
You can’t mess with people and their drugs. They will come at you as hateful and nasty as they can to put a stop to you and any thought of anyone messing with their getting their hands on their drugs.
They want you to stay out of their lives. They’ll tell you that if they want to take their drugs and maybe die, then that’s none of your business. That’s their family who suffers, again, their business, not yours.
The solution? I have no idea.
Decriminalizing drugs would put the government in business with foreign narco-terrorists. The government would tax drugs heavily, profiting from the destruction of the American people in cooperation with foreign terrorists. For some reason this fact doesn’t seem to bother some libertarians who apparently think its a good idea for the government to go into the dope-pushing business.
Where, pray tell, is the government allowed into our lives vis-a-vis drugs? Please, explain which part of the CONSTITUTION authorizes the Feds to do this?
Let me toss out a clue: interstate commerce clause. If you are so far-reaching as to allow it, then you aren't a conservative. That also allows the Feds to control everything about you if not reigned in and it has not been reigned in in a long, long time.
Freedom means being allowed to make a dumb choice and if someone wants to smoke cat poop, it is their call, not mine. And it is certainly not the governments.
You mean like the poppy plant?
Since we ar eon the subject, let me remind people of the last 2 amendments to the BOR:
Amendment 9:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment 10:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I think Amendment 9 & 10 clearly state that this is not an area the Feds have any say over. The states probably do but not the Feds.
The USA has been invaded by foreign terrorists who are using drugs to gain control over large portion of the US population. The Constitution grants the federal government the authority to repel invasions. The drug war is not a war in a figurative sense, but a real war against a real enemy. In war, there is no substitute for victory.
People knew Prohibition was a bad law, and it was repealed. Meth, pot, and coke don't carry the air of "normal" that wine and beer does. Sure, they're abused, just like chocolate cake and ice cream, but you can't go into a restaurant and say, "I'd like 2 lines of coke with that beef wellington tonight." Besides, in most cases, you have to really work at it to get addicted to alcohol. It takes time. Unlike meth, which causes addiction very fast, and is very hard to shake.
I stand by my previous post. Find 'em, sort 'em, and send them away.
So, if a person grows marijuana on their own property, and smokes it, it is ok? If they grow it and only sell it to citizens in their state, that is fine as well? how about if they cook crystal meth in their farm house (no danger to neighbors) and sell it to their other neighbors, that is fine?
Let’s just be clear where freedom is allowed and where it is a ‘foreign’ war.
The CIA seem to didn’t have a problem with running drugs during Vietnam.
That could explain why I'm STILL waiting to get my 40-bag.
Didn’t Obama’s pastor expose that nefarious CIA plot to kill black people? Damn the US of KKKA! For killing innocent people!
Way to deflect the argument. I do not give a sh!t about that loser pastor.
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