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Iranian Pro-Reform Marchers Flood Tehran Streets
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Posted on 06/15/2009 8:43:43 AM PDT by Scythian



Tens of thousands of Iranians took to the streets of Tehran Monday, defying a country-wide crackdown with protests against the hotly-disputed results of last week's hotly-disputed presidential election.

Chanting crowds, some wearing green campaign colors, greeted Mir Hossein Mousavi, the defeated candidate in Friday's election, as he slowly moved through the streets on the back of a car.

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KEYWORDS: iran; iraniantroops; protests; studentmovement
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YES, YES, POUR INTO THE STREETS PEOPLE, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET RID OF Ahmadinejad
1 posted on 06/15/2009 8:43:43 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

2 posted on 06/15/2009 8:44:52 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Another Tiananmen massacre is just around the corner.


3 posted on 06/15/2009 8:49:18 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Scythian

I was just thinking...get the angle just right and you could pop both of those trike-riders with a single shot.


4 posted on 06/15/2009 8:50:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

BTTT


5 posted on 06/15/2009 8:53:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Scythian
Organization is the key. Otherwise it will peter out unless there is a dissenting camp inside the regime which will side with protesters.

Romanian uprising would have been impossible without its army siding with protesters. Islamic Revolution in Iran would have been impossible without U.S. gov headed by Carter forced Shah to leave Iran.

6 posted on 06/15/2009 8:53:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping!
7 posted on 06/15/2009 8:54:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is just awesome, Ahmadinejad must be crapping his pants and now he knows we know his support and control is not what we thought it was, oh man if they tear that country apart and go for a pro-western government that would be awesome, I know alot of the younger folks are sick of all this crap and hatred ...


8 posted on 06/15/2009 8:56:08 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Somehow I seem to remember that the Shah was outside the country seeking medical treatment when he finally lost his grip on power....


9 posted on 06/15/2009 8:57:00 AM PDT by Dixiekraut
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http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml


10 posted on 06/15/2009 8:58:50 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Scythian

The students and the urban elite may be sick of the theocracy...but as long as the Mullahs & The Nutjob have the army..they ain’t goin anywhere.

This reform movement i.e. “counter-revolution” will be crushed .....just like the last time.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 9:00:34 AM PDT by Dixiekraut
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To: Scythian
"YES, YES, POUR INTO THE STREETS PEOPLE, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET RID OF Ahmadinejad"

Ahmadinejad is a blithering idiot. He's a stooge, a puppet of the mullahs. It is Al Khomeni and the mullahs who are the true power in Iran. Apparently this new guy is not a stooge or it wouldn't matter who became President. This investigation could be the mullahs caving and setting up a pretense for getting rid of Ahmadinejad.
12 posted on 06/15/2009 9:03:29 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Dixiekraut
Well, I don't know what was the official excuse. I distinctly remember Shah and his entourage walk to his plane in an airport, which he piloted out of the country.
13 posted on 06/15/2009 9:04:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Scythian
And amazingly enough, we here people over here, even some in office, saying the election was stolen. Yet they are not willing to face our election problems here!
14 posted on 06/15/2009 9:06:56 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Scythian
It's a damn shame we don't have a man who can lead without a script.

This is like the berlin wall, if we are diligent.

15 posted on 06/15/2009 9:08:54 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

> Another Tiananmen massacre is just around the corner.

I don’t think so. The culture and temperament of the people of Iran are a great deal different than China, the Iranians are armed with technology and knowledge. They have also in recent memory overthrown their government before. From the reports, they are building rappor with the police.

Finally, if 60% of your populace decides it has had enough, it is going to be near impossible for them to kill or imprison them all.

God bless the people of Iran!


16 posted on 06/15/2009 9:09:20 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The Mullahs will have to be gone before any true reform can happen in Iran.


17 posted on 06/15/2009 9:12:57 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)
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To: VictoryGal

if this continues to build steam and the Iranian regime sees itself losing its grip got to watch out for them provoking a military conflict with either U.S. or Israel to unify the population


18 posted on 06/15/2009 9:15:23 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: Scythian

I doubt it will be a “pro-western” government. I’m not sure what it will be. It depends on how far this “revolution” goes. They need to dump the mad mullahs and have an elected secular government, and tell the mullahs to stick to the mosques.

What they may wind up with may be just as virulently anti-American as the current regime. However, the important thing is that Iran get whatever government it’s people want.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 9:16:31 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: Scythian

This is all very interesting but I dont understand what difference it makes to us. THe difference between Imanutjob and his opponent are about as much as Obama and Barney Frank.


20 posted on 06/15/2009 9:21:30 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Scythian

defying a country-wide crackdown
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Hey, Jimmuh !!!!

Does that sound like democracy to you ???

Where’s the 1st Amendment rights for the populus ???

After all Iran is SOOOOOOO much better than the US...

Their Constitution just HAS to be top notch...


21 posted on 06/15/2009 9:22:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

bttt


22 posted on 06/15/2009 9:25:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Another Tiananmen massacre is just around the corner.”

Unfortunately, you may be right...


23 posted on 06/15/2009 9:26:43 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Dixiekraut
Somehow I seem to remember that the Shah was outside the country seeking medical treatment when he finally lost his grip on power....

He was forced out by Jimmah. Well known fact at the time that Jimmah pulled the props out from under the Shah. To this day I have RATS tell me "Well the Shah just treated his people so terrible that he had to do it".

Of course, under the Shah, women were treated as equals. The country was fairly modern. The aftermath of the Carter debacle was to allow radical Islam to finally get a foothold in a large country. We have seen what that has led to. Yeah, we had some stuff with the Islamists before, but Carter allowed the flood gates of terror to open. President Reagan stopped them for a time with his bombing of Libya. But when Clinton came in they were emboldened. W got serious and kept them at bay after 911, but now weakness is upon us again.

24 posted on 06/15/2009 9:27:27 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Scythian

Keep it going! Iran Azadi!


25 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:24 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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>> the difference between Imanutjob and his opponent are about as much as Obama and Barney Frank <<

The people in the streets obviously don’t agree with you.

But even if they’re wrong and you’re right, it would be a matter of HUGE significance if the “street” should force the mullahs to overturn the official election verdict.

Such an event would give increased energy to the democracy movement and would probably cause the government to come apart at the seams — with some mullahs and some Rev Guards supporting one faction, some supporting another. At that point, full-scale civil war is a distinct possibility.


26 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:56 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Scythian
"YES, YES, POUR INTO THE STREETS PEOPLE, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET RID OF Ahmadinejad"

The PROBLEM...is the mad mullahs that actually run Iran, and THEY control the military.

I WANT to encourage the Iranian people to fight for their freedom, but let's be realistic: Ahmadinejad was supposed to be a "moderate" too.

Let's pray for the safety of those kids in the streets.

27 posted on 06/15/2009 9:30:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Current Misery Index Approximately 36%)
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> if this continues to build steam and the Iranian regime sees itself losing its grip got to watch out for them provoking a military conflict with either U.S. or Israel to unify the population

And divert the military from controlling the streets? I doubt it.


28 posted on 06/15/2009 9:31:51 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: henkster
"... I doubt it will be a “pro-western” government. I’m not sure what it will be... What they may wind up with may be just as virulently anti-American as the current regime."

I think virulently anti-American as well, but it's probably irrelevant since these massive street protests will die out and be as quickly forgotten as the short discussion of whether Nancy Pelosi will lose the speaker's seat over the CIA waterboarding debacle.

I've watched two movies recently about Iran -- 'The Queen And I', a documentary of Queen Farah living in exile filmed by a pro-Communist expat living in Sweden, and another German film 'Letters To The President' about the cult of personality around Ahmadinejad.

The movies show that Iranians of all types are completely screwed up ideologically. Everyone's an extremist, even the 'moderates'. They've got no sense of proportion because they've never been tranquil, secure, had liberty, or lived without fear of the monarchy, mullahs, communists, or whomever is in charge at the present. Everyone is a political nutburger of some stripe.

Even if Ahmadinejad goes, and I contend that he won't, whoever replaces him will likewise be some virulently anti-Western/anti-USA incompetent screwball.

29 posted on 06/15/2009 9:39:51 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: cake_crumb
THEY control the military?

The why did the Army, this past weekend, declare it's “neutrality”, which is widely seen as an invitation to revolution?

No, if the army decides it's had enough of seeing imported Hezbollah militants killing and running roughshod over it's own people, you'll see that the mullahs won't be able to get out of the country fast enough.

CA....

30 posted on 06/15/2009 9:41:58 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've at last found that silly grin!)
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To: VictoryGal

>> And divert the military from controlling the streets? I doubt it. <<

I don’t think the Army is on the streets. There was a supposed statement yesterday from the Army that they wouldn’t attack their country’s own citizens. Such “neutrality” could be the deciding factor as to whether the mullahs can be overthrown.

On the other hand, the police and the Revolutionary Guards are separate organizations from the Army. So the key to the mullahs’ survival may be whether the cops and the RG have the necessary weaponry and determination to suppress the popular movement. Only time will tell.


31 posted on 06/15/2009 9:42:39 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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YES, YES, POUR INTO THE STREETS PEOPLE, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET RID OF Ahmadinejad

Getting rid of Imanutjob won't do much. They need to get rid of the Mullahs who are the real power in Iran, and replace them with pro-Western leadership.
32 posted on 06/15/2009 9:44:03 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Billthedrill
I was just thinking...get the angle just right and you could pop both of those trike-riders with a single shot.

This illustrates an important difference between here and there. In America, millions of us are armed, and a sizeable minority are experts at using those arms. If we had this sort of attack by government against its citizens, the attackers would soon be dead.

33 posted on 06/15/2009 9:52:06 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Another Tiananmen massacre is just around the corner.”

Exactly what I thought. A blood bath is headed their way. Truly sorrowful.


34 posted on 06/15/2009 9:54:49 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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full-scale civil war is a distinct possibility.

When it gets to that point I will think this may make a difference to us. Until then it's just one hostile regime in danger of being replaced by another.

35 posted on 06/15/2009 10:14:02 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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Like OHBWAMA those marchers don’t accept the rule of democracy....when they lose!


36 posted on 06/15/2009 10:27:32 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Scythian
That's just the kind of "robust debate" that should have been expected.

Just like JFK and RFK with Bay of Pigs, and Clinton with Mogadishu "Black Hawk Down" without any support or backing, so is with Tehran... "Obama lied - people died"

37 posted on 06/15/2009 10:47:51 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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“The people of IRAN”?

To my knowledge they voted Ahmadinejad and many are bigot antisemitic muslims ....

i HAVE NO OTHER INFO


38 posted on 06/15/2009 10:51:33 AM PDT by Ulysse
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> i HAVE NO OTHER INFO

Well, that says it all.

Open your eyes about what is happening now.


39 posted on 06/15/2009 10:52:52 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: henkster

I doubt it will be a “pro-western” government. I’m not sure what it will be.

perhaps a military dictatorship??

This dictatorship may be anti-western and Islamic but not suicidal like the mullahs.


40 posted on 06/15/2009 10:53:21 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

It may not be pro western but the people have been simmering for years with an underground pro-democratic movement.

I pray that this is the birth of that movement finally coming out into the open.


41 posted on 06/15/2009 11:01:10 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Dixiekraut
The students and the urban elite may be sick of the theocracy...but as long as the Mullahs & The Nutjob have the army..they ain’t goin anywhere.

The army has declared its neutrality in this.

42 posted on 06/15/2009 11:04:05 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: henkster
I doubt it will be a “pro-western” government. I’m not sure what it will be. It depends on how far this “revolution” goes.

It all depends upon who ends up in charge. There are a lot of factions there.

43 posted on 06/15/2009 11:05:47 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: Scythian

Isn’t it time for Obama to give another speech?


44 posted on 06/15/2009 11:12:47 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: henkster

You are right. This revolution has momentum. They need to go for everything. Away with Khamenei. No half-a**ed deal.

There will no doubt be a transitional phase of old regime reformers like Musavi and Khatami. But they know that they depend on the will of the people. If they can’t deliver the opening up of the country, they will be dumped. If this rebellion against the radicals has indeed success, the people won’t accept next time an election with chosen candidates. The genie once out of the bottle won’t go back.


45 posted on 06/15/2009 11:19:55 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: DogBarkTree

See my post above. This isn’t about Musavi. Musavi is only short-term. If they succeed (far from granted) in ousting Ahmadinejad, they will go after Khamenei. Musavi will have to respond to their will, and this means opening the country, improving the economy, relations with the outside and no wars.
The people protesting are tired of wars. Iran had the 8 year Iran-Iraq war and a Government depending on the support of these people won’t be able to continue the warmongering politics any longer.

What I am afraid of his a lame deal between Musavi and Khamenei. He may decide to dump Ahmadinejad but to save his ass. I hope the people won’t fall for lame compromises.


46 posted on 06/15/2009 11:24:08 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: cake_crumb
Ahmadinejad was supposed to be a "moderate" too.

Uhm... No.

47 posted on 06/15/2009 11:25:18 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To my knowledge they voted Ahmadinejad and many are bigot antisemitic muslims .... i HAVE NO OTHER INFO

Obviously.

48 posted on 06/15/2009 11:26:29 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: SolidWood

Mousavi is the “Kerensky”, a transitional figure.


49 posted on 06/15/2009 11:27:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ulysse
Like OHBWAMA those marchers don’t accept the rule of democracy....when they lose!

So you think Ahmadinejad is just fine and won free and fairly? Sheesh!!!

50 posted on 06/15/2009 11:27:34 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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