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Texas Could Soon Be a Republican Presidential Nightmare [Rats want to take over the Lone Star State]
US News & World Report ^ | 2009-06-15 | John Farrell

Posted on 06/15/2009 9:19:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The conference on the future of U.S. politics, convened at the American Enterprise Institute on Friday, has come and gone, leaving in its wake more bad news for the Republican Party.

I know. You're asking: "So what else is new?" The GOP has been taking a beating in the public opinion polls of late. What makes this particular set of portends scary for Republicans is that the conferees were not studying mere polling snapshots. They were dealing with demography—long-term trends regarding various voting groups identified by age, race and geographic location. And in politics, demography is destiny.

I'm going to highlight some of the findings as the week progresses. I'll begin today with race.

Here's the bottom line: As the white vote continues to shrink in America, the Democrats are doing a much better job attracting voters of African, Latino and Asian ancestry. Especially in key Electoral College states.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agenda; antimccaintroll; bushlegacy; corruption; democrats; latinovote; mccainlegacy; texas; tx2010
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If Latinos continue to vote with the Democrats, and the Dems ever find a way to get them to the polls in Texas, the last of the three great Republican Sunbelt bastions could fall.

And exactly how much of that Latino vote is presently illegal?

Texas falling to the Rats = Bush/McCain legacy.

1 posted on 06/15/2009 9:19:18 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

“Texas falling to the Rats = Bush/McCain legacy.

Since when did you jump ship? Heck, now you’re with the Obamanites in blaming Bush for everything. The dems have been orchestrating this takeover for 40 years so let’s get off the blame Bush bandwagon.


2 posted on 06/15/2009 9:24:58 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: rabscuttle385

A lot of people left CA because of high taxes and moved to......Texas. Now they wil ruin Tezas just as they did CA. The same thing happened in NY, WITH FL picking up the new tax and spenders.


3 posted on 06/15/2009 9:25:24 AM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Democrats are doing a much better job attracting voters of African, Latino and Asian ancestry

Democrats are doing a much better job allowing millions of illegal aliens of Latino ancestry to come into the United States and vote in our elections.

4 posted on 06/15/2009 9:26:02 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: rabscuttle385

Sheesh, can’t we have one post without you blame Bush people?

He’s gone. Tomorrow is more important. Let it go!


5 posted on 06/15/2009 9:27:49 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m in New Mexico, my son in law is in Texas, trust me.........the good ole boys will keep America in Texas.


6 posted on 06/15/2009 9:27:53 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: stockpirate
A lot of people left CA because of high taxes and moved to......Texas. Now they wil ruin Tezas just as they did CA

And Washington State, and Orygone, and Denver, and Santa Fe, and Nashville, and Austin, and Phoenix.....

Kalifornians are a pestilence.

They don't even look normal.

7 posted on 06/15/2009 9:28:04 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: rabscuttle385

Plenty of Mexican-American Republicans in Texas.


8 posted on 06/15/2009 9:28:18 AM PDT by Woebama (Paying for my neighbor's mortgage and Wall Street's bonuses sure is hard.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Texas falling to the Rats = Bush/McCain legacy.

True, but what states can we grab from the Democrats? I know our money is the southern states, but it makes me nervous that Virginia and North Carolina turned blue. Georgia was bluer than ever before too. I thought we could have made some strides in the mid west, but that did not happen. Hopefully in 2012 it will. Sarah is our savior according to many here. My only question is can she win either Iowa or New Hampshire? I really hate that those two states are first primaries. I think if they stay blue than we need to change the order to one democratic state and one Republican state. Perhaps we should start with New Hampshire and then go directly to South Carolina.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rabscuttle385

Senator John Cornyn is certainly doing HIS part to water down conservatism.

Why vote Republican when it’s just Dem-Lite? If a voter agrees that ‘Rat policies are best, why vote for an (R) that merely *leans* to the left? Get yourself the real thing!


10 posted on 06/15/2009 9:29:49 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is the old, worn-out ‘GOP is dead’ meme.

Don’t fall for it.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 9:30:51 AM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: rabscuttle385

12 posted on 06/15/2009 9:31:48 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: smokingfrog

Strongest in the (sparsely populated) rural areas... weakest in the heavily populated cities. And the Rio Grande Valley, 95% Hispanic, has totally flipped.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 9:36:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Nervous Tick

He was even going to support the re-election of Arlene the Sphincter acting as head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. His reply, “Alimentary my dear Watson.”


14 posted on 06/15/2009 9:36:42 AM PDT by lqcincinnatus (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: rabscuttle385

The winner take all electoral system means we’ve probably seen the last Republican President for at least 40 years. The demographics for minorities and the fleeing of RATS from thier doomed states to the Red states means the END of Republican Presidents. The only chance is to change the winner take all system to a proportional one.


15 posted on 06/15/2009 9:37:22 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Woebama

The latino’s I work with are solid conservatives and extremely pro-life.


16 posted on 06/15/2009 9:37:46 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: smokingfrog

A lot of high tech immigrants to TX are liberals from CA, OR, WA and North East. We have several friends who’s kids have moved to TX with high tech jobs. The companies like the enviroment, but there new recruits tend to be liberals.
Plus..the invasion continues. A lot of the old hispanics may be conservative, but the illegals and their kin are all socialists..want govt to pay for them. They do vote..TX needs a stronger voter ID law..otherwise the RATS may win.


17 posted on 06/15/2009 9:38:09 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: smokingfrog

That map looks to be a representation of Mexican hegemony.


18 posted on 06/15/2009 9:41:22 AM PDT by Radix (This Tag Line no verb.)
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To: nhwingut
“This is the old, worn-out ‘GOP is dead’ meme.

Don’t fall for it.”

Agreed, but add in redistricting after the 2010 census and given undeniable demographic trends, the GOP faces a daunting task in Presidential and Congressional elections. The solid red state map may be down to just Alabama and Mississippi come 2012, with lot of the formerly solid red states being a deep shade of purple. The 2010 elections may be the last chance to turn the tide.

19 posted on 06/15/2009 9:41:49 AM PDT by buckalfa (confused and bewildered)
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To: lqcincinnatus

>> He was even going to support the re-election of Arlene the Sphincter acting as head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Yep. As well, he was all for Geithner the Tax Cheat for Treasury... and he was one of the Original RINO Buttboys for getting the socialist Bailout rolling.

Positively unforgiveably blunders for a conservative. But then Cornyn isn’t a conservative, he’s a conservative poseur.


20 posted on 06/15/2009 9:43:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If the Republican Party continues to go for the minority votes by being Democrat-lite, there won’t a Republican stronghold left in the union. That is what the state run media, Democrats and mushy Republicans want. Be conservative. Stand up for conservative values, and there are plenty of conservative Hispanics who will identify with the message. Keep selling Democrat-lite like McCain did, and we will continue losing Hispanics to the Democrats. Kowtowing to La Raza and the sorry politics of illegal immigration and amnesty won’t gain Hispanic votes, but it will destroy conservatism and lose the people Reagan won over.

We are at the beginning of an economic nightmare that will make Carter seem like a happy fairytale. It is time for the Republican Party to grow a new backbone, and push forward with a way back to sanity and prosperity. Kick aside the invertebrate Republicans who stand for nothing.


21 posted on 06/15/2009 9:43:15 AM PDT by pallis
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To: rabscuttle385

The Repubs need not have a problem with the non-white vote of they could get a platform together that attracted people rather than repulsed them. There are some people out there that want a government that supports people’s values, stays out of their business and is good for the economy. Not every person of Hispanic origin is in favor of illegals, wants welfare or wants liberal BS foisted on them....


22 posted on 06/15/2009 9:44:30 AM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: rabscuttle385
Yep! Bush & McCain are partly to blame, but it goes all the way back to Senator Dirksen, the GOP Senate leader, who convinced all but three Senate Republicans to support Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration Bill. The Southern Dems were against the bill, so it could have been filibustered if the Republicans had joined in. But no, that would have been “racist”.

The Dems knew exactly what they were doing. They were changing the nation's demographics by inviting in millions of people from non-Western cultures. The GOP, as usual, got rolled.

23 posted on 06/15/2009 9:45:25 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: rabscuttle385
And in politics, demography is destiny ... Here's the bottom line: As the white vote continues to shrink in America, the Democrats are doing a much better job attracting voters of African, Latino and Asian ancestry. Especially in key Electoral College states.

This assumes static racial identification with parties. I find that unlikely. The democrat party is for losers, those with nothing who want other people's wealth spread around to them. As the Latino and Asian population becomes more established, they will become more successful and learn to resent the government excesses that they now celebrate. The African-American dynamic is different, perhaps, but even that group (which really does seem to be a single group politically) can flip from one party to the other surprisingly quickly.

24 posted on 06/15/2009 9:48:20 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: pallis
Yes.

Their best chance, believe me, is “a choice, not an echo”.

You'll be surprised at the kind of support that will pick up, even with all the mis-educated and dysfunctional voters out there.

CA....

25 posted on 06/15/2009 9:48:35 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've at last found that silly grin!)
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To: mom4melody
"The latino’s I work with are solid conservatives and extremely pro-life."

Ditto but they mostly all vote rat.

Granted I'm in a liberal hell hole but Texas ain't the same. The Mrs. and I are seriously considering Alabama.

It'll be hard but sheesh, Texas, well, it's just been changed by all the refugees from liberal cesspools who proceed to turn it into what they escaped. Go figure.

26 posted on 06/15/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: rabscuttle385
And exactly how much of that Latino vote is presently illegal?

All that ACORN can register including the ones who don't actually live in Texas.

27 posted on 06/15/2009 9:53:19 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Texas Could Soon Be a Republican Presidential Nightmare


It may come sooner than expected. The 2010 census is going to be very important in determing the makeup of the state legislature and probably the Texas congressional delegation.

Currently the Texas state legislature is composed as follows:
House .... GOP, 76 ..... Dem, 74
Senate ... GOP, 19 ..... Dem, 12

Texas hasn’t been in the control of the GOP for that many years. The democrats as a rule were conservative even in 2000 they controlled the state House 78-72 and the GOP had the Senate 16-15.


28 posted on 06/15/2009 9:53:35 AM PDT by deport
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To: smokingfrog

The Five States of Texas

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/04/messing-with-texas.html

29 posted on 06/15/2009 9:54:27 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: puroresu

“The Dems knew exactly what they were doing. . . . The GOP, as usual, got rolled.”

The inevitable result when the Stupid Party meets the Evil Party.


30 posted on 06/15/2009 9:57:26 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Sheesh, can’t we have one post without you blame Bush people?

Yeah, but McCain is still around pushing shamnesty, which Bush favored as well.

31 posted on 06/15/2009 9:59:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385

US News & World Report is a leftist rag, and the democrats taking Texas is a leftist’s dream.

Texas as a dem state is a long way away, unless unabridged amnesty is granted.

Meanwhile, several blue northern states are trending red: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and even New Jersey


32 posted on 06/15/2009 10:05:34 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: buckalfa
If we do not have an economic recovery next year, and the prospects for increased taxes and greater regulation remain high, there will be a backlash much as there was in 1994. One thing Obama has not done is to aggressively pursue the liberal social agenda on hot button issues like gun control or homosexual “rights” to the extent that Clinton did. Neither has he gone as far as Carter did in pursuing a spineless foreign policy. His advisers, many of whom are Clinton Administration veterans, well remember what happened in 1994. They appear to be more focused upon undoing the Reagan and Bush legacies of lowering taxes and lessening regulation than the social issues. If higher taxes, greater regulation, and increased environmental regulation thwart an economic recovery and lead to double digit unemployment, slow or negative economic growth, and increasing price inflation, there will be a backlash.

If the GOP regains the governors’ offices in New Jersey and Virginia in November, the chances for a Republican comeback in 2010 are good.

33 posted on 06/15/2009 10:06:07 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: rabscuttle385

I know ACORN is PRESENT in La. but they must have moved into Tx. as well.


34 posted on 06/15/2009 10:07:00 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: rabscuttle385

We will be watching every Latino vote and if they prove to be fake; they are banished to their own country or to jail.


35 posted on 06/15/2009 10:08:55 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Kakaze

But will we keep Texas in America?


36 posted on 06/15/2009 10:09:38 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Nervous Tick

Cornyn is gone. He will no longer have a job.


37 posted on 06/15/2009 10:09:47 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: kidd

“Meanwhile, several blue northern states are trending red: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and even New Jersey”

I wonder how true that will be though after Obama’s current attempt to move everyone from city slums to the suburbs


38 posted on 06/15/2009 10:09:48 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ugh.

Another one of these threads again. This is nothing more than cowardly psychological warfare, trying to get us to stay down when we’ve been defeated.

The GOP has to outreach to Hispanics. There’s no doubt about that. But we have to remember something. THE GOP SHOULD NEVER TRY TO CONVERT A PEOPLE BY WATERING DOWN THEIR MESSAGE OR PANDERING TO THEM. That is the last thing the GOP should EVER do. If the GOP is strong on their principles, and believes in them enough to say it loudly to Hispanics, then they will listen. And eventually they will follow.

Just look at Duncan Hunter, in California. He regularly got over 60% of the Hispanic vote in his district. Why? He was principled. He believed in what he was preaching. He reached out to Hispanics, especially Hispanic business leaders and was able to move them to his side.

THAT is how you get the Hispanic vote the RIGHT way.


39 posted on 06/15/2009 10:09:57 AM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Another article put out by another liberal rag as pure propaganda for the dimocrats!


40 posted on 06/15/2009 10:11:44 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (O-B-A-M-A = One Big Ass Mistake, America.)
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To: Kakaze

Yup, and if Obama takes over the nations health care, Texas will be it’s own country within 3 years!

I think Texans are going to make it very clear. We are going to live free, with ya or without ya. Perry has hinted at this already and it will happen if Obama is not stopped.


41 posted on 06/15/2009 10:13:17 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: mom4melody
Yep. The ones I know are pro-life, hard working people (who want to keep their money) and they hate the people who are here illegally.
42 posted on 06/15/2009 10:14:49 AM PDT by redk
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To: Kakaze
You got it!

Stockpirate said that CA immigrants will change Texas to CA lite. Need to remember all the uhauls from Michigan that figured the same thing, only to head back norte in a few years, THANK GOD.

I'm thinkin most of the CA drifters are going to LV and southern Utah.

43 posted on 06/15/2009 10:15:37 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: Jeb21

Ugh.

Another one of these threads again. This is nothing more than cowardly psychological warfare, trying to get us to stay down when we’ve been defeated.
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YEP!


44 posted on 06/15/2009 10:20:54 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Texas falling to the Rats = Bush/McCain legacy.”

Sometimes it’s not so important what a person says, but why they said it.

Your statement causes me concern. and disappointment .


45 posted on 06/15/2009 10:23:22 AM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Jeb21

“This is nothing more than cowardly psychological warfare, trying to get us to stay down when we’ve been defeated.”

That’s exactly what it is.

Unfortunately, by simply looking at some of the responses from our side, it seems to be working.


46 posted on 06/15/2009 10:28:03 AM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Gator113

Concern? Because both of them were front and center pushing amnesty for illegal aliens? Including a “pathway to citizenship” (i.e., a pathway to vote...for Democrats)?


47 posted on 06/15/2009 10:29:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
Texas falling to the Rats = Bush/McCain legacy.

Ever heard of "the greatest generation", Ted Kennedy, the democrat party and the 1965 immigration act?

48 posted on 06/15/2009 10:29:56 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: mom4melody

From what I can tell, there is a class of “Hispanics” who started out years ago with an old pick-up truck, a ladder and box of tools, and today are bossing their own crews. Those are the guys were need...


49 posted on 06/15/2009 10:34:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Proud_texan; mom4melody

People need to separate the Hispanic Protestant vote from the Hispanic Catholic vote.

It is the Hispanic Catholics that are dedicated democrats.


50 posted on 06/15/2009 10:35:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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