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Behind a Massive Robocall Scam, Four Human Faces
FOXNews.com ^ | Monday, June 15, 2009 | By Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 06/15/2009 11:24:44 AM PDT by metmom

You answer the phone, and it's a recorded message:

"By now you should have received your written note regarding your vehicle warranty expiring. This call is to give you a final opportunity to extend coverage before it is too late. Press '1' now to speak to a warranty specialist regarding your options on your vehicle."

Upon pressing "1," you are transferred to a "warranty specialist" who lies to you, telling you he is affiliated with an automobile dealer or manufacturer and that your warranty is up. And before long, you may have agreed to put $450 down on an extended service contract that costs up to $3,000, the balance to be paid in monthly payments.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: ftc; robocalls; scam; telemarketing
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1 posted on 06/15/2009 11:24:44 AM PDT by metmom
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To: metmom

Do people really fall for these things?


2 posted on 06/15/2009 11:28:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: metmom

I must’ve gotten a dozen “final call before we close the book” calls in addition to the other “your warranty may be expiring”. Ya think??? My car is 12 years old!


3 posted on 06/15/2009 11:29:02 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals sculpted during four weight-lifting sessions each week and...)
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To: metmom
And before long, you may have agreed to put $450 down on an extended service contract that costs up to $3,000, the balance to be paid in monthly payments.

If I put aside $450 a month, I could afford to fix my car myself, or use it as a down payment for a new car that actually came with a warranty.

4 posted on 06/15/2009 11:29:48 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It’s a scam. I’m investing my winnings from the European Lottery to ivestigate scams like this and bring them to justice. I should be getting my money any day now. I just sent the processing fee and my bank account number to them.


5 posted on 06/15/2009 11:30:14 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) We know how to deal with Iran.)
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To: stuartcr

“Do people really fall for these things?”

Apparently.

Follow the link in the article to this other article....

A Peek Inside One Telemarketing Firm Ensnared in FTC Lawsuit
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526358,00.html


6 posted on 06/15/2009 11:31:18 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neodad

LOL!


7 posted on 06/15/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: stuartcr

I knew it was a fraud the first time they called, because our vehicles are so old that there’s no way that ANY warranty we may have had on it was *about to expire*. They would have expired YEARS ago.


8 posted on 06/15/2009 11:32:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I can't afford it now, but I'll be willing to pay double the price once I get my check from the widow of Nigera's finance minister.
9 posted on 06/15/2009 11:32:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: KarlInOhio
I can't afford it now, but I'll be willing to pay double the price once I get my check from the widow of Nigera's finance minister.

I'll soon be so rich I'll be able to afford both i's in Nigeria.

10 posted on 06/15/2009 11:33:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I finally started pressing one to talk to a customer service member. What I told them was that if the calls didn’t stop I was going to the attorney general.

They stopped.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 11:33:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stuartcr
I have literally taken the phone out of the hand of my mother in law as she started spewing what cars she owned, asking which one was the one which would be under the extended warranty. I've no doubt that by the end of the call, she would have paid the money.

Yes, people are stupid.

12 posted on 06/15/2009 11:34:40 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: metmom

I hit ‘1’ and start dragging the call out, maybe I will, maybe not... how about transmisions?.... I dunno.... how about steering column...?... how much is that?...


13 posted on 06/15/2009 11:35:01 AM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: KarlInOhio

Why does everyone else get all the luck?

Nobody ever wants to send me free money.....

:(


14 posted on 06/15/2009 11:35:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kingu

This type of thing is one of the main concerns I have with individual accounts replacing social security. There are a lot of bad guys, and a lot of people that could get really hurt.


15 posted on 06/15/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: neodad
It’s a scam. I’m investing my winnings from the European Lottery to ivestigate scams like this and bring them to justice. I should be getting my money any day now. I just sent the processing fee and my bank account number to them.

My friends in Nigeria say this is a scam. If you really want to make some money you need to help them move 5 million dollars out of the country. Just send them your account number and personal information, along with a check to cover the processing and you can be rich.

16 posted on 06/15/2009 11:38:03 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: kingu
I have literally taken the phone out of the hand of my mother in law as she started spewing what cars she owned, asking which one was the one which would be under the extended warranty.

We asked them which car it was that the warranty was about to expire on. They told us to tell them which one's we had. Mr. mm said to them that we own more than one car and we needed to know which vehicle they were calling about since they called us. They hung up.

17 posted on 06/15/2009 11:38:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: theDentist

I like the way you think.

Keep them busy so they can’t harass others.


18 posted on 06/15/2009 11:38:55 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stuartcr

I guess you don’t have an elderly parent. Whether they “fall for it” enough to send money, old people worry when they get official-sounding calls.

If anybody wants to apply some direct action on these guys, I’m in.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 11:40:24 AM PDT by SoCalRight
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To: metmom

I’ve asked for a supervisor to find who they are because I am on the ‘do not call list’ and they just hang up.

And then call back. I’ll have to try the Attorney General bit. Since my AG is always on TV badgering some company or another (Blumenthal), they might believe me.


20 posted on 06/15/2009 11:40:46 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: SoCalRight

No, my elderly parents have died a while ago.


21 posted on 06/15/2009 11:43:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: metmom

I give them my ex-wife’s phone numbers and tell them she is the one that makes all the vehicle decisions.

I also am nice enough to inform them that she works nights and is asleep during the day, so she is only available to talk between midnight and 4 AM on weekdays.


22 posted on 06/15/2009 11:44:01 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: metmom

Hey I LIKE those calls. It is better than hearing Ahnold’s voice on my answering machine asking me to vote for a better Kaleefornia.


23 posted on 06/15/2009 11:47:15 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: metmom
Time for a...

RoboCall Czar!


24 posted on 06/15/2009 11:47:21 AM PDT by kromike
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To: metmom

Has anyone here had any luck contacting an attorney general about bad telemarketing practices? Any luck with complaining to the FTC about robocalls to cell phones?


25 posted on 06/15/2009 11:51:36 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: metmom
Behind a Massive Robocall Scam, Four Human Faces

Close: "fAces" is not the word I think of in connection with these crooks.

26 posted on 06/15/2009 11:51:55 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: metmom

I kept the guy on the line until I told him that I owned a 1978 Yugo. He hung up.


27 posted on 06/15/2009 11:51:59 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: theDentist
I hit ‘1’ and start dragging the call out, maybe I will, maybe not... how about transmisions?.... I dunno.... how about steering column...?... how much is that?...

One of my twins finds great pleasure in screwing with telemarketers. She will keep them on the phone for well over a half hour, and talk about all kinds of stuff. She has several voices she can use, too, so it sounds like they are talking to about 4 different people.

With the extended warrantee people, she got them to list just about every part and system they claim to cover. She then asked them if they cover the "johnson valve in the exhaust carburetor" or something like that, and they said yes. She called them a liar, because she just made it up. That pretty much ended the call.

She's pretty quick for a 13 year old.

28 posted on 06/15/2009 11:52:55 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

LOL

I also ask about replacement Klien rods.

These folks are, indeed, scum. TElephone version of the Travelers.


29 posted on 06/15/2009 11:59:07 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

LOL

I also ask about replacement Klien rods.

These folks are, indeed, scum. TElephone version of the Travelers.


30 posted on 06/15/2009 11:59:19 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I must’ve gotten a dozen “final call before we close the book” calls in addition to the other “your warranty may be expiring”. Ya think??? My car is 12 years old!

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We have gotten about 20 or so, including a few on my cell phone. One time I actually did press to get the “specialist”. Had to hold forever. When he finally came on the line, he said, “What make and year is your automobile?” When I said, “You tell me; you’re the one that called me”, he hung up.

My car is 17. BTW.


31 posted on 06/15/2009 11:59:46 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: metmom
I was getting calls like that all the time. I asked which car? Model please? Silence. < HANG UP >
32 posted on 06/15/2009 12:00:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: stuartcr

Yes, people fall this sort of scam. Especially older people who don’t have a clue what it will cost to keep up their cars after the warranty runs out.


33 posted on 06/15/2009 12:04:25 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Myrddin

The SOB’s were calling my cell phone at all hours. They had an official sounding message designed to frighten the old and stupid. I’m old but not so stupid, yet.


34 posted on 06/15/2009 12:04:36 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: stuartcr
“Do people really fall for these things?”...
Barak Obama is President of the United States, QED.
35 posted on 06/15/2009 12:05:35 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: Myrddin

I finally spent about an hour..while I was reading FR..wasting their time on getting the details and then negotiating for a lower price..then talking to their “closer”..etc etc. But the calls haven’t stopped.
You figure that they have some congresscritter in their pocket who somehow gives them cover with the FTC and other agencies. They probably even get an earmark and get paid for giving the Rats there “sucker list”.
The Rat organizations exchange their lists of the little old ladies who can persuaded to give or buy anything.


36 posted on 06/15/2009 12:07:09 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: stuartcr
Do people really fall for these things?

Yes, they prey on the elderly.
37 posted on 06/15/2009 12:11:03 PM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: metmom

Is that what all those calls were, eh? The scam’s stupid robo-caller voice talked over my answering machine’s robo-voice and all I could understand as the two robot voices struggled for supremacy was something about a warranty. That musta happened a hunnert times. Saved by my crappy answering machine I reckon...

Freegards


38 posted on 06/15/2009 12:12:19 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: metmom

“Nobody ever wants to send me free money.....”

I am getting a part of the 787 billion. All I have to do is send $399 dollars to get my place in line.


39 posted on 06/15/2009 12:20:40 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Climate change alarmists are Warm-Mongers. Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.)
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To: Luke21; Oldexpat
My elderly mom has macular degeneration in one eye. She sold her cars as she no longer felt should could drive them safely. All the other elderly in the family are room temperature already.

The SOB’s were calling my cell phone at all hours. They had an official sounding message designed to frighten the old and stupid. I’m old but not so stupid, yet.

I turn my cell phone off when I crawl in the rack. It goes on the charger for the next day. If the call is really important, my colleagues have my unlisted land line. The land line and all cell phones are also on the do not contact list. The only exception to that cell phone practice is when I'm on a business trip.

40 posted on 06/15/2009 12:30:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Tanniker Smith

I got a bunch of calls for weeks from a robot that said, “I’m calling about your credit card...” I didn’t hear what it said after that. It heard “click.” I have good credit and pay my balance off every month, so they couldn’t possibly be calling me about my credit card in a menacing voice that implies that I’m a deadbeat.


41 posted on 06/15/2009 12:34:01 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: stuartcr

Ive taken to stringing them along... Despite the fact my only vehicle is a 2009 I tell them of my 2001 Dodge Neon... The best part comes when you say ‘hold on while I get my credit card’ and then just leave the phone in the bedroom while you go and watch TV.. I figure if I can waste 15-30 minuets of a scam artists day it was a worthy effort..


42 posted on 06/15/2009 12:36:04 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: metmom

Just put their photos and current address up on the web. Some guy who’s mom or daughter was ripped off will take care of things . . .


43 posted on 06/15/2009 12:38:07 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: steve-b
I kept the guy on the line until I told him that I owned a 1978 Yugo. He hung up.

I kept getting calls at my work number a few months ago about the warranty on my GM vehicle was about to expire. I finally let the phone laying on my desk on speaker phone mode and when a live person FINALLY got on the line, I told them my 1994 S-10 was way over on mileage, the person said they would take me off the list.

BTW, has anyone been getting numerous calls about pre approved credit cards the past few weeks?

44 posted on 06/15/2009 12:50:26 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: ASOC

I asked them if their warranty covered both sides of the Moebius belt.


45 posted on 06/15/2009 12:51:39 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

It seems I get these calls on my answering machine about once a month (I say ‘Hello’ twice on the machine, so I waste their time while I’m not even there).
It’s a good laugh for me too, my car is 44 years old.


46 posted on 06/15/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by Hiryusan
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To: metmom

You could not make them stop calling. We got a new cell phone with a new number and the calls started within 4 days. They even called on Christmas Day.


47 posted on 06/15/2009 12:55:22 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: stuartcr

#2. Yes. They also fall for credit card repair, mortgage loan adjustment, get rich in real estate and lose weight without diet or exercise and wait, thats not all, much, much more!


48 posted on 06/15/2009 1:17:34 PM PDT by mono
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To: steve-b

FOTFLOL!!!


49 posted on 06/15/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
You could not make them stop calling. We got a new cell phone with a new number and the calls started within 4 days. They even called on Christmas Day.

They've called me on my cell phone and on my home land line.

The intriguing thing is that the Caller ID has the call originating on several different 800 lines and on a broad selection of regular lines -- originating from different states, from Idaho to South Dakota, to Maryland, to New Jersey.

I've yet to see one repeat.

I'd wager that they've found a way to spoof the Caller ID.

50 posted on 06/15/2009 1:29:14 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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