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PROMISES, PROMISES: Indian health care's victims
Yahoo News ^ | June 15, 2009 | MARY CLARE JALONICK

Posted on 06/15/2009 11:30:30 AM PDT by khnyny

CROW AGENCY, Mont. – Ta'Shon Rain Little Light, a happy little girl who loved to dance and dress up in traditional American Indian clothes, had stopped eating and walking. She complained constantly to her mother that her stomach hurt.

When Stephanie Little Light took her daughter to the Indian Health Service clinic in this wind-swept and remote corner of Montana, they told her the 5-year-old was depressed.

Ta'Shon's pain rapidly worsened and she visited the clinic about 10 more times over several months before her lung collapsed and she was airlifted to a children's hospital in Denver. There she was diagnosed with terminal cancer, confirming the suspicions of family members.

A few weeks later, a charity sent the whole family to Disney World so Ta'Shon could see Cinderella's Castle, her biggest dream. She never got to see the castle, though. She died in her hotel bed soon after the family arrived in Florida.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obama; obamacare; socialism; tragedy
"This" is government run health care.
1 posted on 06/15/2009 11:30:31 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny
Yup.

As i read the story, I'm not sure if the writer knows that. If you want to see the Democrat's plan for America, under BHO, go to any rez in northern MN.

Sad story and poor little girl. God be with her family

2 posted on 06/15/2009 11:37:06 AM PDT by lakertaker (Libertarian Party since 1998)
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To: khnyny

No thank you pass


3 posted on 06/15/2009 11:37:33 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: khnyny

Indian Health Care is what the democrats want for you and your family.

While keeping ultra-luxury gold-plated Teddy Kennedy type insurance for themselves.


4 posted on 06/15/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: khnyny
Yes, it is government-run health care, but having some real inside knowledge, I'll go out on a limb and defend the agency since it is one of the few inside the government that has done some real good over the years, despite what the Indians say.

The agency does have its internal problems, like any other, but this article is grossly unfair and mischaracterizes its mission and its role with the tribes. The Indians are not obligated to stay with IHS, but have the option of either contractor or compacting for their own services.

Quite frankly, most of the tribes would have died off a long time ago from tuberculosis and other nasty Third World diseases if it were not for IHS.

5 posted on 06/15/2009 11:39:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: khnyny

I volunteer sometimes for a dental clinic for Native Americans in the seediest part of a major city on the USA’s west coast. And EVERY time they do outreach, this one group of commies has a table set-up there, making very, very sure that EVERY Mexican who wanders in that places is signed up for EVERY possible benefit that’s available in this liberal city.

And they get LOTS of takers.


6 posted on 06/15/2009 11:40:54 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: lakertaker

Truth seems to seep out even in the strangest of ways. There is a possibility that the writer understands, but is presenting the story in such a way that will still guarantee them a paycheck in the liberal MSM monopoly.

And yes, God bless this little angel and her family. So very sad.


7 posted on 06/15/2009 11:41:51 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: khnyny
"This" is government run health care.

0 would most likely think the little girl to be an inconvenience anyway.

Soon all people will be inconveniences. Mostly babies and old people. We'll have to bow to the 0 whether we like it or not.

They won't be happy until we're another Cuba.

8 posted on 06/15/2009 11:43:16 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Ditto
Sad story - no doubt.

Is it as common as ‘they’ would have you believe? No.

You can go to ANY US medical facility (FedGov, State, Military, private) and cherry pick a horror story of bad doctors, uncaring staff, wrong medicine dispensed and on and on.

A better take would be how often does this happen?
Does the facility make changes to prevent future occurrences.

Now, go to any NHS facility in the UK - how hard is it to find a horror story?

Then go one more, go to any health facility in say, Brazil, check there as well.

YA, BIA could mean Boss Indians Around, and there is plenty of bad blood to go around. But compare how folks are treated here in the US to any other Country or Nation, then tell us how bad the US is for folk.

9 posted on 06/15/2009 11:52:21 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

It has done good, and there likely would not be tribal health-care without the IHS. But, it is very indicative of federal government control of health services. The bureaucracy, the competency, facilities and equipment all show the natural result of government supplied health-care.

Services, pharmaceuticals and doctor-patient time is all spread thin. Wait time is measured in weeks for many procedures, and one could wait up to half a day to see a doctor - with an appointment. As for doctors themselves, you’ll see the interns and less than stellar medical professionals.

The tribes I’m familiar with, Choctaw, Cherokee and Chickasaw all eventually took over their clinics and they became way more efficient and the care was magnitudes better. The doctors are more proficient and caring, while providing more services and a larger variety of drugs for different treatments.


10 posted on 06/15/2009 12:17:26 PM PDT by kenth
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To: kenth
“It has done good, and there likely would not be tribal health-care without the IHS. “

My grandfather walked of the reservation when he was of age never to return. He saved all of his progeny.

If there were not the IHS and other debilitating handouts, the tribes would be assimilated and not languishing in the twilight world of full subsistence.

11 posted on 06/15/2009 12:24:35 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: kenth
The tribes I’m familiar with, Choctaw, Cherokee and Chickasaw all eventually took over their clinics and they became way more efficient and the care was magnitudes better.

Agreed, and I think IHS personnel would be the first to say that it's better for the tribes to contract or compact for their own health care rather than rely upon IHS direct services, which are wholly dependent upon Congressional appropriations and the whims of whatever political party is in power.

In fact, the whole point of IHS, when it was transferred from the BIA to the U.S. Public Health Service in 1955 was to briong the tuberculosis epidemic under control, get Indian health up to an "acceptable level," and then train and support the tribes so that they could eventually take over their own health care responsibility. That is now happening for the most part because of the Indian Self-Determination and Healthcare Improvement Acts of the 1970s, as amended over the years.

12 posted on 06/15/2009 12:34:10 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: dangerdoc
If there were not the IHS and other debilitating handouts, the tribes would be assimilated and not languishing in the twilight world of full subsistence.

I disagree doc, there would have been no assimilation, but outright eradication through healthcare attrition.

Dawes General Allotment Act of 1887

Indian Termination Policy

13 posted on 06/15/2009 12:37:14 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Hard to say, things were bad back then but my family has been fully assimilated for a couple of generations.

As far as healthcare attrition, they are doing a pretty good job of doing that now. Between diabetes, alcohol and the IHS, you do not see a lot of old people on the reservation.


14 posted on 06/15/2009 1:01:01 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc

Self destructive behavior.


15 posted on 06/15/2009 1:04:43 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: kenth

We need to bring this disaster to light. If this is what the government has done with Socialized Medicine for Native Americans, how could they dare force it onto ALL Americans?


16 posted on 06/15/2009 3:04:23 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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17 posted on 06/15/2009 3:33:05 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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