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MILITARY: New General Takes Over Chessani Case (Conway bails)
North County Times ^ | June 15, 2009 | Mark Walker

Posted on 06/15/2009 11:15:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard

The commandant of the Marine Corps has appointed one of his deputies to decide the next step in the case against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, who was charged with dereliction of duty after 24 Iraqi civilians were slain in the city of Haditha in 2005.

Lt. Gen. George Flynn, deputy commandant for combat development and integration, was named the new convening authority over the Chessani matter last week, a Marine Corps spokesman said Monday.

Flynn was given the task by Gen. James Conway, commandant of the Marine Corps.

Conway was handed the Chessani case last month after a military judge at Camp Pendleton ordered the dereliction charges dismissed because of his finding that unlawful command influence had irreparably tainted the prosecution case.

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When he ordered the case dismissed, the judge, Col. Steven Folsom, also ruled the Marine Corps could bring a new case against Chessani provided it appointed a new convening authority to first review the matter.

That was one of several options that Conway had in deciding how to proceed. He also could have ordered the case dismissed entirely or taken an administrative action, such as having a letter placed in Chessani's file.

Flynn now has to review the investigation in its entirety and decide whether continued prosecution or some kind of lesser action is warranted.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chessani; haditha; murtha; persecution; ucmj

1 posted on 06/15/2009 11:15:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ..

(( ping ))


2 posted on 06/15/2009 11:17:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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...after 24 Iraqi civilians were slain in the city of Haditha in 2005

Four freaking years later and here we are, no end in sight.

And by the way, Walker is way past having any excuse for still using the "24 civilians" line. Do some homework, Mark. Please.

3 posted on 06/15/2009 11:20:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
The deaths of only 24 people shows our boys were holding back.

Think about it. If our boys really wanted to kill people indiscriminately they could have put down hundreds.

4 posted on 06/15/2009 11:24:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Don't tax your health)
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To: Lancey Howard
Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas was the Marine who was killed in the deadly ambush at Haditha that preceded the responsive combat actions taken by his brothers in arms. The insurgents and their civilian collaborators in those houses watched and chuckled as the explosion killed Terrazas and seriously wounded other Marines.

But it turned out the joke was on them. Ha ha.

5 posted on 06/15/2009 11:26:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
And by the way, Walker is way past having any excuse for still using the "24 civilians" line.

Thank you, Lancey. That has irked me since day one.

Whatever happened to the right to a speedy trial?

6 posted on 06/15/2009 11:28:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Lancey Howard
Haditha

There were no "innocent" civilians in those houses at Haditha. The occupants were either insurgents or collaborators. They were either "with us or against us". Clearly, they were against us:

A 12-year old survivor of the alleged massacre of innocent civilians by U.S. Marines patrolling Haditha has admitted she had prior knowledge of the plot to detonate an IED as their convoy was passing by her house on the morning of Nov. 19, 2005.

In a CNN interview broadcast Wednesday, Safa Younis - who says eight members of her family were killed by U.S. troops - recalled that she was getting ready for school as the Marine Humvee approached.

"I was planning to go to school. I was about to go out of bed. I knew the bomb would explode so I covered my ears," the youngster said, according to a CNN translator. "The bomb [then] exploded," she explained. "The bomb struck an armored vehicle. I don't know if it was a Humvee or an armored vehicle. When the bomb exploded, they came straight to my house."

The "innocent" occupants of those houses knew about the impending deadly ambush and watched it happen. They chose to collaborate with terrorist insurgents, and those insurgents used them as human shields. Now look at them.... Que sera sera.

7 posted on 06/15/2009 11:29:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
I hope Lt. Gen. George Flynn gets himself up to speed in a fairly short period of time. This has to end, and there's no good reason for Flynn to do anything but dismiss the case completely and exonerate Chessani.
8 posted on 06/15/2009 11:30:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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By the way, isn’t it amusing how you NEVER read about those “four young men on their way to college” in the white taxi cab anymore? It’s like it never happened.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 11:30:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Just A Nobody; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; freema; RedRover
a military judge at Camp Pendleton ordered the dereliction charges dismissed because of his finding that unlawful command influence had irreparably tainted the prosecution case.

I'll say!


10 posted on 06/15/2009 11:44:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard

I new thought I’d live to say this, but the USMC Commandant is a pu$$y.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 11:45:26 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Lancey Howard; Just A Nobody
By the way, isn’t it amusing how you NEVER read about those “four young men on their way to college” in the white taxi cab anymore? It’s like it never happened.

Yep, those were four of Walker's "civilians". I almost feel bad for Mark,well not really, but if he hasn't figured it out by now, he's never gonna figure it out.

12 posted on 06/15/2009 11:52:51 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: clee1

It’s like the generals are playing “hot potato” with this case. Didn’t this thing start back during WWII with a guy named Mattis? I can’t even keep track of all the “convening authorities” and judges since then. I don’t think Flynn was even born yet when this thing started.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 11:55:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: smoothsailing

“Yep, those were four of Walker’s “civilians”. I almost feel bad for Mark,well not really, but if he hasn’t figured it out by now, he’s never gonna figure it out.”

Walker is a tool and the North County Times is a tool box. Anything anti-Marine is fodder for them. Bah.

TC


14 posted on 06/16/2009 1:51:32 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Lancey Howard; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; ...
Lancey Howard has said it better that I could ever hope to in his posts and there's really nothing that I can add that's acceptable at FR.

HADITHA MARINE PING!

Thanks for the post and ping, Lancey!

15 posted on 06/16/2009 10:35:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Lancey Howard

So much dishonor going down within the Marine Corps. at this point, likewise I am without words.


16 posted on 06/16/2009 1:29:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: Lancey Howard

How long till we run out of Generals?


17 posted on 06/16/2009 4:11:43 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama Voodoo economics - Thuggery, sleight of hand, temper tantrums & spitting on OUR dreams.)
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To: Lancey Howard

You’ve been doing a damn fine job of keeping the faith. I’ve been reading your pings on this issue. I don’t comment because I’ve got nothing to say that would pass the word filter. My thoughts on this issue are not fit for expression where kids, ladies or faint hearted males may be within listening range.

Semper Fi.


18 posted on 06/16/2009 5:01:09 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Semper Fi.


19 posted on 06/16/2009 5:27:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping, Jaz..

I thought this case was essentially over.. I agree with your comments, I have nothing to add that can be said in public!


20 posted on 06/16/2009 7:46:17 PM PDT by pinkpanther111
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To: Lancey Howard
Easy answer. “Charges dropped.”
21 posted on 06/16/2009 7:47:14 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: Lancey Howard

Dang1 more prayers needed for the Col. Why can’t they let this go?


22 posted on 06/16/2009 8:25:11 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks for keeping us up to date on Haditha, Lancey. Hopefully the general will finally bring this to an end for Lt Col Chessani.


23 posted on 06/17/2009 3:47:19 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Lancey Howard; RedRover; pissant; Girlene; bigheadfred
The dereliction was for non-reporting.

The questions are:

1. Was there anything about that day that higher was not sufficiently aware of? They had eye in the sky, they had firefights all over Haditha (not just with Wuterich’s bunch), and they were aware of the movement of insurgents.

2. Chessani gave a thorough briefing (via powerpoint if memory serves correctly) within short order.

3. What was the accepted means of reporting at that time in the heat of battle...many times informal means are deemed acceptable when in the heat of crisis? Were there any such informal conventions used on this or any other reports? What had they accepted from Chessani in the past? What were they accepting from other battalion level combat commanders?

4. What impact does NOW knowing that the true situation of that day did NOT involve any criminal convictions have on a reassessment of Chessani’s understandings and actions? What impact does knowing that the Time report was an insurgent propaganda effort have on any reassessment? What impact does the reality of Murtha’s prejudicing of the case have on any reassessment? What impact does knowing that there definitely were insurgents in those houses have on reassessment? What impact does knowing that the “civilians” had advance knowledge of the attack have on reassessment?

5. Two independent inquiries shortly after Haditha established no retributive actions, only military actions. These reports have never been brought into an assessment of Chessani’s eventual actions. Do they not verify his analysis that this was a justifiable anti-insurgent action with regrettable collateral casualties?

Finally, this guy from NC Times is not making a mistake when he continues his use of the incendiary “24 civilians.” It's past the point of oversigght. He's doing it on purpose. It's time to acknowledge that he has a dog in this hunt, and that he's anti-Chessani, anti-HadithaMarines.

24 posted on 06/17/2009 6:08:18 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: xzins

Excellent post.


25 posted on 06/17/2009 8:11:01 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo

AND there’s nothing I can say that would be “acceptable” except WTF!!!


26 posted on 06/18/2009 9:18:59 PM PDT by Semper Fi Mom (Mother of a Marine and proud of it! (www.WeSupport Frank.com))
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To: Semper Fi Mom

I hear you, Mom.

God bless you all!


27 posted on 06/18/2009 9:24:44 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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