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Ohioans ticketed for parking in own driveways
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/16/09 | AP

Posted on 06/16/2009 10:05:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

TOLEDO, Ohio – Residents of Toledo, Ohio, are complaining that they received $25 tickets for parking their vehicles in their own driveways.

Mayor Carty Finkbeiner (FINK'-by-ner) says he stands by the citations handed out last week by the Division of Streets, Bridges and Harbor. He says the tickets were issued under a city law against parking on unpaved surfaces, including gravel driveways.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: democrat; driveways; fink; finkbeiner; holytoledo; nannystate; ohio; ohioans; parking; privateproperty; propertyrights; revenuetickets; taxandspend; ticketed; toledo
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1 posted on 06/16/2009 10:05:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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What a country.


2 posted on 06/16/2009 10:06:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

‘Fink’ is the right name for him.


3 posted on 06/16/2009 10:06:53 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (America is the best -- 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
The three-term mayor faces a recall vote in November. Critics have claimed he's wasted city money.



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4 posted on 06/16/2009 10:07:10 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not surprising considering the fact that The City had layoff their police force. Just a way to obtain more money.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 10:08:00 AM PDT by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t like the whole parking a bunch of cars on the grass of the front lawn, or having a slew of derelict junkers out back, but on a gravel driveway? What’s wrong with a gravel driveway?


6 posted on 06/16/2009 10:08:19 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (America is the best -- 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I love it.

The water’s all nice and warm.

Froggie feels real good.

And to the question, what else will they do for revenue.....

Yankee creativity shows its shining self.


7 posted on 06/16/2009 10:08:25 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: bamahead

The mayor is a jackass. I hope he gets successfully recalled and then tried for abuse of power and gets sent to jail.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge

This man is evil. He has found a way of interpreting the law that allows him to “legally” take money from his people, so he’s doing that. Disgusting!


9 posted on 06/16/2009 10:08:39 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If I were one of those people I would send that “a hoe” the ticket back in shreads.


10 posted on 06/16/2009 10:09:01 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yet people in this country, and on this hallowed forum insist that the government should ensure there safety, by force if necessary and in every conceivable way and in every conceivable place. Shame on us for being a lazy, self indulgent, selfish bunch of dolts.


11 posted on 06/16/2009 10:09:33 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: NormsRevenge

The time for tarring and feathering of public officials draws near...I wonder how the mayor will look without eyebrows....:-)


12 posted on 06/16/2009 10:10:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: NormsRevenge

Finkbeiner (FINK’-by-ner) sounds like sphinc·ter (sfngktr)

See also
trespass n. entering another person’s property without permission of the owner or his/her agent and without lawful authority and causing any damage, no matter how slight. Any interference with the owner’s (or a legal tenant’s) use of the property is a sufficient showing of damage and is a civil wrong (tort) sufficient to form the basis for a lawsuit against the trespasser by the owner or a tenant using the property. In addition to damages, a court may grant an injunction prohibiting any further continuing, repeated or permanent trespass.


13 posted on 06/16/2009 10:10:42 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: bamahead
Oh, I understand, but I soooo disagree, revenge, my son, keeps “officials” in their place, some communities don't have problems like this, because “discipline" is in place and the "fear level" i.e. respect for one another is in place.
14 posted on 06/16/2009 10:10:56 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think that they were trying to get this yahoo recalled. Guess nothing is coming of that.


15 posted on 06/16/2009 10:11:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The Mayor is up for a recall in November.


16 posted on 06/16/2009 10:11:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well if you are going to tar and feather a public official, your neighbors, and your friendly Freepers will insist you wear your seat belt and stay off the cell phone while doing tarring and feathering. Safety is paramount.


17 posted on 06/16/2009 10:11:58 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: NormsRevenge

You think this guy gets reelected?


18 posted on 06/16/2009 10:12:04 AM PDT by JLS
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To: NormsRevenge

“During a news conference Monday, Finkbeiner ignored a reporter’s question of whether the crackdown and fines were related to the city’s budget crisis.”

No kidding.....


19 posted on 06/16/2009 10:12:33 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hopefully a judge will throw this out.

You can make a decent argument that gravel is a type of paving anyway. It is designed to serve the same purpose as asphalt: make the surface suitable for automobiles.


20 posted on 06/16/2009 10:13:30 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama hasn't just open Pandora's box, he has thrown us inside and closed the lid.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, I’m sure these folks are at fault somehow, and deserve the tickets.

/big-gov “conservative”


21 posted on 06/16/2009 10:14:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: DariusBane

LOL...and use free range chicken feathers only!


22 posted on 06/16/2009 10:16:37 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL I really am starting to hate this world.


23 posted on 06/16/2009 10:17:55 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I have a 2-car-wide gravel driveway.
My landlord put in it so we could park off the street after the CD player got stolen out of the truck we used to have.
If someone ticketed me for parking there, they would end up with some serious regrets.


24 posted on 06/16/2009 10:18:01 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks. I moved from Toledo in 1975. Things have certainly changed. Anyway, I went snooping.

Police union president may go to court to halt writing of tickets by other city employees

25 posted on 06/16/2009 10:19:24 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Brookhaven

“hopefully a judge will throw this out”... Spoken like somebody who accepts the power the government exercises over day to day behavior. I am now a conservative nihilist. Burn it down and start over.


26 posted on 06/16/2009 10:19:40 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: NormsRevenge

Ohioans proved that they have no respect for private property rights when they voted to outlaw tobacco use in privately owned bars and restaurants. They can’t complain now.


27 posted on 06/16/2009 10:19:49 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
What’s wrong with a gravel driveway?

The rocks have a way of getting in the yard, I'm sure my grand children contribute to that too. Mine's double wide, I've thought about paving it but it costs a fortune, so gravel it stays.

28 posted on 06/16/2009 10:20:37 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is just par for the course for Carty the Marxist Finkbeiner. Like all good little Socialists everywhere, Carty has ridden the city of Toledo into the financial ground. I'm just surprised it took him so long.
29 posted on 06/16/2009 10:21:01 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

People have gone POSTAL for a lot less than this.


30 posted on 06/16/2009 10:21:12 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: CSM

Ain’t it sweet?

I’m just loving the howls of outrage, and from what I can tell, statezillas are just beginning to deploy their array of phased revenue enhancers.

We’ve forgotten Benjamin Franklin’s dictum, and consequently, we are going to all hang seperately.


31 posted on 06/16/2009 10:24:00 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: NormsRevenge

Google search tells me he’s a democrap.... Yep, those libs always looking out for the little guy!


32 posted on 06/16/2009 10:25:15 AM PDT by Made In The USA (BO stinks.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Fined for parking on your driveway? I guess George Harrison’s lyrics in “Taxman” about being fined/taxed for breathing will eventually come true.


33 posted on 06/16/2009 10:26:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: NormsRevenge

tea party in perrysburg right next to toledo on july 4, 10 a.m., for 1 hour at hood park.


34 posted on 06/16/2009 10:27:47 AM PDT by wildwood
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If I lived there, I would pave four 6” x 6” squres in my gravel driveway measured out to fit exactly under my tires.


35 posted on 06/16/2009 10:29:21 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: CSM

Well yes, but that was just aimed at smokers, who have been scientifically proven not to be actual human beings so it’s all good in that case.


36 posted on 06/16/2009 10:33:39 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: swarthyguy

“Ain’t it sweet?”

Not really, but schaudenfreud (sp?) is all I have left....


37 posted on 06/16/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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Good one!


38 posted on 06/16/2009 10:36:37 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

even a grass driveway works for me, not everyone can afford gravel, concrete or blacktop driveways.....just not all over the front lawn though.


39 posted on 06/16/2009 10:37:38 AM PDT by tioga
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To: NormsRevenge

Just another way liberals have found to destroy the notion of private property. When they control all uses of private property and tax it to hell, there will be no more private property.
Then, the marxists will be happy.


40 posted on 06/16/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a progressive, degenerative disease of the mind that ends in insanity.)
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To: DariusBane

Hey, DB, speak for yourself.
The reason most of us are at this site is because we are precisely not like your description of many others.


41 posted on 06/16/2009 10:39:18 AM PDT by gigster
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To: NormsRevenge

I thougnt this was about HOA’s


42 posted on 06/16/2009 10:41:06 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
Mayor Finkbeiner is in his 3rd (interrupted) term as mayor of Toledo. Previous fame came from ordering company of USMC Reservists to abandon an urban training session because he hadn't been personally informed (Police knew and approved at least 3 days earlier). As others have said, he is facing a recall confirmation in November unless he can invalidate enough signatures of a 20k petition. Needless to say he is holding on to office like a rabid d**.
43 posted on 06/16/2009 10:41:39 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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I thougnt this was about HOA’s

arrgghh.. (sign of the cross)


44 posted on 06/16/2009 10:42:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: DariusBane
Well if you are going to tar and feather a public official, your neighbors, and your friendly Freepers will insist you wear your seat belt and stay off the cell phone while doing tarring and feathering. Safety is paramount.

They also support Traffic Light Cameras and drive 54-55 mph in the left lane on the interstate till they get to their exit LOL.

45 posted on 06/16/2009 10:42:32 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess hundreds of the folks that got these tickets should ask for a jury trial. I’d bet most juries would let them walk, and it would cost the city a fortune to try them all in court.


46 posted on 06/16/2009 10:47:44 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: Graybeard58

My grandparents never had a paved driveway. I think it’s ridiculous to ticket people for parking there.


47 posted on 06/16/2009 10:48:00 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (America is the best -- 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The bigger question which people should be asking is this: Who passed such a draconian law, and why didn't the citizens protest it before now?

I can't believe that NOBODY thought of problems with a law against parking on an unpaved suface. That just SCREAMS "likely to be abused" to me.

48 posted on 06/16/2009 10:50:25 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possiblity of failure.)
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So the Mayor, Carty Finkbeiner thinks that the wild interpretation of the law is cool?
I see an abbreviated tenure for Finkmeister, and a law introduced in the state legislature to clarify the matter. I guarantee that the initial law was not intended to apply to unpaved driveways or areas on private property.
49 posted on 06/16/2009 10:52:57 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: greatdefender

Interesting that they would lay off police officers and send the remaining force to bring in more revenue rather than violent and theiving offenders.


50 posted on 06/16/2009 10:53:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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