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AG Holder urges new hate crimes law
Associated Press ^ | June 16, 2009 | DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 06/16/2009 12:13:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Attorney General Eric Holder says recent violent attacks show the need for a tougher hate crimes law.

Holder, speaking Tuesday at a luncheon for civil rights lawyers, noted the recent killings of an abortion doctor in Kansas, a soldier in Little Rock, and a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.

He called the attacks brazen acts committed in once-unthinkable places, and said it is past time for Congress to strengthen hate crimes laws to prosecute violence based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation.

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1 posted on 06/16/2009 12:13:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hate that guy.


2 posted on 06/16/2009 12:14:01 PM PDT by exist
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, shut up, Holder.


3 posted on 06/16/2009 12:14:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If hate were indeed a crime, Eric Holder is guilty as sin.


4 posted on 06/16/2009 12:14:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Funny, your fellow ‘Rats in Congress didn’t seem to feel it was appropriate to give our men and women in uniform those same protections. Wonder why, Eric?


5 posted on 06/16/2009 12:15:16 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What? Like a new law to prevent assaulting gypsies?

Dance, gypsy, dance!


6 posted on 06/16/2009 12:15:21 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Free ThinkerNY
ALL crimes are “hate” crimes....Do you think they commit them because they love you????? When are we going to stop this idiocy?
7 posted on 06/16/2009 12:15:54 PM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: exist

Liberal Solution to all problems make more laws, that will stop the already criminal behavior.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:15 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Eric, you mean like this "hate crime"?


9 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:19 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No mention of the US soldiers shot and one killed by an Islamic radical terrorist!


10 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:19 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This idiot should read the law a bit. There are thousands of laws on the books to take care of criminals who hurt people, kill people, rob people, bugger people and otherwise commit mayhem on people. He wants to make everything race based. That is racist.


11 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:24 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We desperately need a hate czar.


12 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:30 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Didn’t we already get this in the new PERVERTS law?


13 posted on 06/16/2009 12:16:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (For lease)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Every crime committed has hate as a basis because someone has something you don’t have, or that you want and can’t afford so !!!


14 posted on 06/16/2009 12:17:23 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: madison10

Holder fills me with disgust. I am still incensed that he called America a nation of cowards. HE’S the filthy stinking coward, spewing such a slur while hiding behind government power and protection of his worthless little hummingbird a$$.

I’d like to challenge him to a duel, but since he is only half a man I could only challenge him to half a duel.


15 posted on 06/16/2009 12:17:58 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Hail Obama! Kill da white peoples!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This from a thug who saw nothing wrong about the New Black Panther thugs with batons intimidating voters at the polls on election day.

Shades of Iran.


16 posted on 06/16/2009 12:18:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: OCCASparky

“Rats in Congress didn’t seem to feel it was appropriate to give our men and women in uniform those same protections.”

Excellent response.

Mine might have gotten me into trouble, so I will just say, “ditto”.


17 posted on 06/16/2009 12:18:16 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Slow going at the abortion mills, huh Eric?


18 posted on 06/16/2009 12:18:24 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: RexBeach

Mimes’ really bother me....will they be arrested too??


19 posted on 06/16/2009 12:18:47 PM PDT by highnoon (Coming soon - George Lucas presents: 'The Rookie and the Wookie')
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A socialist pagan shooter clears the way for more identity politics


20 posted on 06/16/2009 12:19:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: handy old one

Ayers and Doran hate HATRED of this country and parents in their hearts when they engaged in a terrorist bombing campaign on America.

But the Left defends them and champions them. No investigations of those who pay to bring them in on speaking tours either.


21 posted on 06/16/2009 12:19:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
to strengthen hate crimes laws to prosecute violence based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation

Ok, I'll bite.......which category does the abortion doc fall under?

22 posted on 06/16/2009 12:19:39 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
How would a hate crimes law based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation be applied to the George Tiller or William Long murders?
23 posted on 06/16/2009 12:20:28 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: highnoon

You bet.

“Whadayya want?”

“No mimes.”

“When do you want it?”

“Now!!”

Just say “no” to mimes.


24 posted on 06/16/2009 12:21:00 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: a fool in paradise

We need to forgive the crimes of the past! SARC//


25 posted on 06/16/2009 12:21:02 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: exist

Clueless....


26 posted on 06/16/2009 12:21:02 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Prepare. It's Coming.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Robbing white folks at gun point is “nothing personal”.


27 posted on 06/16/2009 12:21:18 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Go away Holder you racist Loon.


28 posted on 06/16/2009 12:22:03 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: avacado

Actually the reference to Little Rock must mean the soldier killed by the American-born Muslim convert. I’m surprised Holder included that one since the killer didn’t fit into his template of bad guys.


29 posted on 06/16/2009 12:22:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: a fool in paradise

I just noticed, those are rubber nightsticks.

That’s what the Germans use, or at least they did 30 years ago.

You can hit a guy on the side of the head and in the same blow break his nose. I never tried it, but I suspect it works.


30 posted on 06/16/2009 12:22:20 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Holder, speaking Tuesday at a luncheon for civil rights lawyers, noted the recent killings of an abortion doctor in Kansas, a soldier in Little Rock, and a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.

All of the "suspects" will be up for either the death penalty or life in prison without parole. Does Holder want to add a few extra volts or a few extra years to those penalties? Maybe the lethal injection can be done with a really dull needle to show that we're serious about hate crimes.

31 posted on 06/16/2009 12:22:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Is there a law against murder? Last time I checked, there was. If the penalty for murder isn't enough, increase the penalty.

This inanity of ‘hate crimes’ just piles on more onto a very simple concept: You commit murder, you get punished. There shouldn't be any special circumstances - my life is of the same value as a policeman, a fireman, a mailman, etc. Is there any evidence that ‘hate crime’ additional penalties do anything to prevent crime? What was that? None?

Let's get to the truth of the matter - this is simply an end run to circumvent freedom of speech. It is to make giving an opposing opinion from the common liberal ideal as being a crime. It is to make the following statement evidence in a future trial: Marriage is for a man and a woman.

It has nothing to do with previous crimes, it has nothing to do with crime prevention, it has everything to do with making everything written and said which does not conform to the extreme liberal ideology a crime.

32 posted on 06/16/2009 12:23:19 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
said it is past time for Congress to strengthen hate crimes laws to prosecute violence based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation.

And why is violence based on those factors any worse than run of the mill violence?

33 posted on 06/16/2009 12:23:30 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

They have made so many laws that I have started calling them “rules” isntead. Why not make “Envy Crimes” as well and we can note how the leftists promote envy and cause the crimes in their rants.


34 posted on 06/16/2009 12:23:55 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

... killings of an abortion doctor in Kansas, a soldier in Little Rock, and a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.
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prosecute violence based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation


one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The recent killings were not based on gender, disability or sexual orientation (i.e., sexual choice).


35 posted on 06/16/2009 12:24:32 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Puppage

There will now be protected professions as well.

Or maybe because he was killed in a apostatic church, it’ll be claimed to be religious discrimination.


36 posted on 06/16/2009 12:24:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Holder is an idiot.


37 posted on 06/16/2009 12:24:57 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Great - let’s include a hate law against hating Christians!


38 posted on 06/16/2009 12:26:07 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Attorney General Eric Holder says recent violent attacks show the need for a tougher hate crimes law. Holder, speaking Tuesday at a luncheon for civil rights lawyers, noted the recent killings of an abortion doctor in Kansas, a soldier in Little Rock, and a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.

And what do those three perps have in common?

That no stupid federal hate crimes law would have deterred them.

39 posted on 06/16/2009 12:26:08 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Didn't this clown “make his bones” at a law firm that was hired to be defense attorneys for the fine folks visiting Club Gitmo? How did he feel defending jerks who hate America? He continued to defend them when he became Barry's AG and helped release the Gitmo vacationers and return them to the jihad.
40 posted on 06/16/2009 12:26:57 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: exist

How about the “disability” of the administration?


41 posted on 06/16/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Puppage

Under Holder a hate crime would be “anything done by someone I disagree with against someone I agree with.”


42 posted on 06/16/2009 12:28:11 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Get lost Holder.


43 posted on 06/16/2009 12:29:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks. I read it too fast and missed that.


44 posted on 06/16/2009 12:29:50 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll bet it pained him to even mention the soldier in his demand for “tougher” hate crime laws.


45 posted on 06/16/2009 12:30:14 PM PDT by Sister_T
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To: exist
I hate that guy.

HATER!
Report to the nearest FEMA re-education camp.

46 posted on 06/16/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Damn right. Nobody should be permitted to express an opinion the left doesn’t agree with!


47 posted on 06/16/2009 12:31:17 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Holder appears to be the--by now fairly standard--minority bureaucrat; bigoted, chip-on-the-shoulder, hate whitey fan of the Jeremiah Wright/Michelle Obama/Barack Obama view of America.

Like most of the minority whiners, Holder pushes more hate crime legislation because it feeds his ideological appetite and makes it easier for him to intimidate and silence Obama critics while simultaneously punishing loyal American conservatives.

In other words, a perfect Obama appointee who fits in quite well with the rest of his anti-America rat pack.

48 posted on 06/16/2009 12:32:06 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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Great - let’s include a hate law against hating Christians!

If we were to force that to be added, I know you'd never hear about a new hate crime law again.

49 posted on 06/16/2009 12:47:31 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...

The list, ping


50 posted on 06/16/2009 12:47:54 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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