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U.S. to Extend Its Job Benefits to Gay Partners [not full health insurance]
NY Slimes ^ | 06/16/09 | Jeff Zeleny

Posted on 06/16/2009 8:49:26 PM PDT by freespirited

President Obama will sign a presidential memorandum on Wednesday to extend benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees, administration officials said Tuesday evening, but he will stop short of pledging full health insurance coverage.

Mr. Obama, in an Oval Office announcement, is expected to offer details about which benefits will be provided. It is the most significant statement he has made on gay issues, and it comes as he faces intense criticism from several gay rights leaders over what they suggest has been a failure to live up to campaign promises in the first months of his presidency.

Mr. Obama will be weighing in for the first time on one of the most delicate social and political issues of the day: whether the government must provide benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. While he will announce a list of benefits, officials said, they are not expected to include broad health insurance coverage, which could require legislation to achieve.

The initial reaction from some gay rights advocates was mixed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhohomosexualagenda; federalbenefits; federalemployees; gays
This makes it sound like all reports so far have been very misleading.
1 posted on 06/16/2009 8:49:27 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Iran is on fire, our economy is in the toilet, North Korea has nukes and our metrosexual President can only think about getting benefits to homos. Nice job.


2 posted on 06/16/2009 8:51:58 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: freespirited
"The breadth and scope of the memorandum to be signed by Mr. Obama was being completed Tuesday evening, said administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid upstaging the president’s announcement on Wednesday."

Translation: Obama's pollsters are busy tonight trying to see what combination of things will get him the most support.

3 posted on 06/16/2009 8:53:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: my small voice

The Human Rights Campaign sent him a nasty letter yesterday. This is his reponse to smooth over the hurt feelings.


4 posted on 06/16/2009 8:54:27 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: freespirited

This sounds like the “I saved 3 Million jobs” shell game.

That said, I am amazed the Messiah hasn’t been more aggressive on ramming thru socially liberal issues like unlimited, tax payer abortions, gun control, and gays in the military.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 8:55:46 PM PDT by yongin (Proud Infidel in the Kingdom of Obama)
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To: freespirited

Yep....payoffs are what this guy is all about.


6 posted on 06/16/2009 8:55:52 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: freespirited

What other benefits could be extended other than health/life/vision/dental insurance?


7 posted on 06/16/2009 8:56:11 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: my small voice

He can do more than 1 thing at a time, remember? Apparently Bush couldn’t brush his teeth with the water running at the same time.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 8:57:49 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: my small voice

he (zero) is such an imbecile


9 posted on 06/16/2009 8:58:11 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: my small voice

> Iran is on fire, our economy is in the toilet, North Korea has nukes and our metrosexual President can only think about getting benefits to homos. Nice job.<

Of course. Teleprompter Boy took it up the behind and snorted coke as he said in his book. Just a little nod to his fellow gays because who needs freedom in Iran when Billy and Bobby’s marriage is at stake.


10 posted on 06/16/2009 8:59:12 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Biden: “Mr. President, North Korea has just fired a missile at Alaska.”

Buttcrack Obutthole: “Really? Quick, draw up some gay legislation!”


11 posted on 06/16/2009 9:01:41 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: scrabblehack
What other benefits could be extended other than health/life/vision/dental insurance?

Two that come immediately to mind: allowing gays to use FMLA to care for a sick partner. Also govt assistance in selling home owned by partner to faciliate a gay applicant moving to a new city to take a govt job.

I am sure there are others but it's midnight and my brain is slowing down.

12 posted on 06/16/2009 9:02:01 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: freespirited

The only thing benefit other than health/life insurance (now that I think of it, vision and dental are already self + 1) I can think of is that there is a prohibition for employees to have sex at the office (even during lunch hour). Maybe he could repeal that.


13 posted on 06/16/2009 9:02:39 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

Can you use FMLA to go home and have sex?


14 posted on 06/16/2009 9:04:14 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: freespirited

If the Feds want to compete against major corporations for employees, they will need to offer benefits for same-sex partners.

As it is now, most of the Fortune 500 companies offer Offer Domestic Partner Benefits.


15 posted on 06/16/2009 9:04:43 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: freespirited

Dear Mr. President:

It’s about the economy, stupid.


16 posted on 06/16/2009 9:06:48 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: scrabblehack

I agree. Poor things need more rights. Maybe he should make it where they can have sex with anybody at their place of work.

Hey, since America isn’t Christian anymore (according to idiot), maybe he should just declare us a 100% GAY nation and require it by law.


17 posted on 06/16/2009 9:06:51 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: trumandogz

OTOH, Fortune 500 companies don’t offer lifetime job security.

It’s not easy to get fired/laid off from the federal govt.


18 posted on 06/16/2009 9:08:53 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: my small voice

“Mr. president, the Tehran govt are reportedly shooting civilians in the streets, what’s our response?”

HomoBama: “it’s obvious what our response is...gay benefits!”


19 posted on 06/16/2009 9:09:06 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

To the fagmobile! Joe, bring your vibrating jellywand!


20 posted on 06/16/2009 9:13:54 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: freespirited

Yes, that would be a benefit of working for the socialist monolith for the last 45 years.


21 posted on 06/16/2009 9:15:05 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: freespirited

5 U.S.C. 6382(a)(1):
Subject to section 6383, an employee shall be entitled to
a total of 12 administrative workweeks of leave during any 12-month period for one or more of the following:
(A) Because of the birth of a son or daughter of the employee and in order to care for such son or daughter.
(B) Because of the placement of a son or daughter with the employee for adoption or foster care.
(C) In order to care for the spouse, or a son, daughter, or parent, of the employee, if such spouse, son, daughter, or parent has a serious health condition.
(D) Because of a serious health condition that makes the employee unable to perform the functions of the employee’s position.

1 U.S.C. 7:
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word “marriage” means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word “spouse” refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.

So no, FMLA is as undoable as health insurance. The moving provision is hardly a benefit. Any new hire or transferee is advised to do it themselves. The contractor will lowball you royally if you ask for assistance.


22 posted on 06/16/2009 9:19:38 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: freespirited

Does this mean that we can stop this silly marriage thing then. Gays wanted health care bennies, to be able to visit the hospital of sick partner, and other things. This should show that gays can do these things and don’t need marriage to have them.


23 posted on 06/16/2009 9:20:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: scrabblehack

Thanks for this.

For some reason, I cant shake the feeling that they will have a long list of obscure benefits tomorrow.


24 posted on 06/16/2009 9:26:36 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: scrabblehack

Dont miss this article, author seems well-informed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2273350/posts

Seems to me that Obama is limited the same way as Clinton. This is largely the purview of Congress as we suspected.


25 posted on 06/16/2009 9:34:24 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: trumandogz

Gay feds are getting the bennies with your tax money tho.


26 posted on 06/16/2009 9:37:54 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: yetidog

As are straight couple that are living in sin.


27 posted on 06/16/2009 9:43:00 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

So two wrongs make it right? Or just equitable?


28 posted on 06/16/2009 9:46:55 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: yetidog

No, it is simply a reality of our current society, where most major corporations offer Domestic Partner Benefits and the Feds have to keep up in order to attract and retain non-married employees.


29 posted on 06/16/2009 9:52:48 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: freespirited

Long-term care insurance for domestic partners

Allow employees to use sick leave for domestic partners
and non-biological, non-adopted children (so I guess that means anybody)

use of medical facilities abroad

medical evacuation from posts abroad

inclusion in family size for housing allocations

5 U.S.C. 9001(5) (pertains to Long-term care insurance):

(5) Qualified relative. - The term “qualified relative” means each of the following:

(A) The spouse of an individual described in paragraph (1),(2), (3), or (4).

(B) A parent, stepparent, or parent-in-law of an individual described in paragraph (1) or (3).

(C) A child (including an adopted child, a stepchild, or, to the extent the Office of Personnel Management by regulation provides, a foster child) of an individual described in paragraph (1), (2), (3), or (4), if such child is at least 18 years of age.

(D) An individual having such other relationship to an individual described in paragraph (1), (2), (3), or (4) as the Office may by regulation prescribe.


30 posted on 06/17/2009 3:38:45 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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