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Rural Democrats differ with Barack Obama (he doesn't get rural America)
Politco.com ^ | 6/17/2009 | LISA LERER & JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 06/17/2009 3:40:03 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

Angered by White House decisions on everything from greenhouse gases to car dealerships, congressional Democrats from rural districts are threatening to revolt against parts of President Barack Obama’s ambitious first-year agenda.

“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

Cardoza’s critique was aimed at Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions.

“I wouldn’t say it’s a complete strikeout, but they’ve just got a few more bases to it when it comes to the rural community,” said Louisiana Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu.

A rural revolt could hamper the administration’s ability to pass climate change and health care legislation before the August recess.

Democrats from farm states are some of the same moderate members Obama must win to get almost any piece of his agenda through the Senate: Landrieu and Sens. Max Baucus of Montana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, and Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor of Arkansas. Without their votes, Democrats can’t move legislation over Republican filibusters — such as the one sure to come if the health care plan that moves through the Senate includes a public option supported by the administration.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23828.html#ixzz0IgOA2mXE&C

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1 posted on 06/17/2009 3:40:03 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It would tickle me pink to know that the Dem bust of the great 0 came from Middle America!


2 posted on 06/17/2009 3:46:29 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
“They form their views of the world in large cities.”

BINGO!

3 posted on 06/17/2009 3:47:18 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Change that sentence to include, “...and academia.” and I would agree.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 3:48:32 AM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: netmilsmom

bitter clingers.


5 posted on 06/17/2009 3:55:42 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
“I wouldn’t say it’s a complete strikeout

What part of the fascists' agenda works for the rural people?

6 posted on 06/17/2009 3:57:35 AM PDT by stevem
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It’s about time they started waking up.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 4:00:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SolidWood

>>bitter clingers.<<

LOL!! Yep!
Oh the irony to all of it!


8 posted on 06/17/2009 4:04:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

He doesn’t get America, period. He didn’t spend his formative years here, and he’s not an American in upbringing.


9 posted on 06/17/2009 4:04:54 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

So much of the Democratic core seems to not understand and/or is actually hostile to rural America. Maybe I’m being unfair, but I just can’t think of Bill Maher and farm work going together.


10 posted on 06/17/2009 4:05:24 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Rural Democrats differ with Barack Obama (he doesn't get rural America)

He also doesn't care, as long as they vote Dem.

11 posted on 06/17/2009 4:06:32 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Think free or die

Correction...He’s not an American AT ALL....


12 posted on 06/17/2009 4:10:09 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I live in the country. I have my own well, septic and maintain my drive way which is over 1/4 mile long. My wife home schools. The only bill I have for “sevices” is for electricity and cell phone. My .45 and two dogs supply security. I require zero from the feds and very little from the state/county. If I could get off the electrical grid, I would.


13 posted on 06/17/2009 4:11:11 AM PDT by central_va
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza"

No $hit, Dennis.

14 posted on 06/17/2009 4:14:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I tell ya, (not that I’m hoping it happens, btw) but just in case the everlovin’ sh*t hits the fan, I will be sitting back with popcorn with the rest of the FReepers. It should be quite the hoot to watch all these people trying to get along, day to day, without the farmers, handymen, seamstresses, mechanics, etc. If this elitist crowd has to get by, on its own devices, it will be one for the archives.

In fact, this is one of the very arguments I used (over time), to get my formerly lib elite b/f off his high horse.

Everytime something would go wrong at his place, I’d hit him with it:

(Car broke) “Hey babe, why don’t you call a French Lit major from Harvard?”

(AC/Heat broke) “Honey, I was just thinking today...the next time that happens to me, I’m going to call the kid up the street who just got his master’s in Philosophy to see if he can help me out!”

(Roof leaking onto electrical box) “That reminds me, I gotta call back my cousin, Dr. Diane, who has her PhD in Women’s History.”

LOL...evidently I made my point. :)


15 posted on 06/17/2009 4:16:52 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

What's this "they" $hit?

16 posted on 06/17/2009 4:21:09 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Here’s a little vignette for all of you. I have a friend who claims to be a liberal and votes for all of the liberal politicians. I am on his e-mail list. A list in which he sends e-mails that rail against gun control, illegal immigration and taxes. Again, this is coming from someone who claims to be a liberal democrat.

Some people out here really don’t get it as far as who is fighting for the things they believe in. Granted, not all Republicans, but the majority of the people fighting for what he (and I) believe in are in the Republican party, yet he helped to elect Obama. There’s a lot of disconnect going on out there...


17 posted on 06/17/2009 4:25:11 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Sorry rural Dems, but you voted for him. Discovering you were used desptite being warned is hard to take isn’t it? Idiots.


18 posted on 06/17/2009 4:30:14 AM PDT by doodad
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Remember what he said to his wine and cheese buddies in San Francisco?

He thinks Non-urbanites are hicks.


19 posted on 06/17/2009 4:36:53 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

You might want to mention that what is going on in Iran, could not get off the ground here, thanks to our framers. They foresaw something just like the tyranny in Iran and we have a 2nd amendment as a consequence.

Wish I could remember all of this (perhaps someone will fill in the missing details), but I remember reading (a long time ago) the reason why the Japanese general in WWII ruled out an attack on the U.S. mainland. Had something to do with knowing there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.

heh


20 posted on 06/17/2009 4:44:54 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

landrieu is a whore for the evilcrats... why do they keep electing that airhead?

LLS


21 posted on 06/17/2009 4:50:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“A Country Boy can survive”.


22 posted on 06/17/2009 4:55:17 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The insularity of the urbs is the root of most of the friction in this nation. They really believe that their lifestyle and philosophy are indicators of superior intelligence.


23 posted on 06/17/2009 4:57:11 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: oblomov
Change that sentence to include, “...and academia.” and I would agree.

Don't forget..."and Hollywood" too.

24 posted on 06/17/2009 4:58:55 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: netmilsmom
If Zero is true to form in the next day or two you will see a bone thrown to rural Democrats. The same thing happens every one of his constituencies complain they are being ignored. Blacks, gays, cities, Jews, unions all have complained over the last 6 months and have been appeased.
25 posted on 06/17/2009 5:01:40 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The inner cities fear us backwoods rural savages.

All I can say is when things go really upside down and the cities fall it WILL be rural America that resurrects America.

Movies like “The Postman” sometimes tend to actually become prophetic I believe.


26 posted on 06/17/2009 5:02:07 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Daisyjane69

Your arguments are a microcosm of “Atlas Shrugged”!..............


27 posted on 06/17/2009 5:04:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Inquiring minds want to know, but American Idol minds could care less...)
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To: Daisyjane69
...It should be quite the hoot to watch all these people trying to get along, day to day, without the farmers, handymen, seamstresses, mechanics, etc...

Commies call the solutions "Cultural Revolutions"...

28 posted on 06/17/2009 5:10:34 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: central_va
I live in the country. I have my own well, septic and maintain my drive way which is over 1/4 mile long. My wife home schools. The only bill I have for “sevices” is for electricity and cell phone. My .45 and two dogs supply security. I require zero from the feds and very little from the state/county. If I could get off the electrical grid, I would.

I echo your sentiments exactly. (Except, no wife, no homeschool and only one dog). The numbnuts making up these laws don't have a clue about what rural life is like. I feel certain they would be amazed if they spent a week with you or me.

29 posted on 06/17/2009 5:16:28 AM PDT by upchuck (In memory of my Hero, my Dad. 08/13/17 - 05-31-96 I miss you every day.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
This article also touches on the closing of automobile dealerships and how this can have an outsized affect on rural communities. From the article:
Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) questioned how independent owned and operated businesses have any financial impact on automakers.

“None of us can quite understand why they consider dealerships a drag when they are the ones that buy the cars, that take the financial risks. Many of the dealerships that are being closed are profitable.”

Bump to you Sen. Hagan. I don't understand it either. And I'd really like to know the answer.
30 posted on 06/17/2009 5:20:19 AM PDT by upchuck (In memory of my Hero, my Dad. 08/13/17 - 05-31-96 I miss you every day.)
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To: Eye of Unk

“The inner cities fear us backwoods rural savages”. Damn right. Those idiots are not self reliant and have gotten very comfortable being dependant on others. Problem with the dim party is that the inner cities voting is taken over by acorn and federal spending goes to those cities. The rural folks get left out of the deal while having to pay higher taxes. My case is anecdotal, but common. I left the big city in 1989 when I figured out that the taxpayers were getting soaked more and more to pay for services that I received no benefit. My property taxes were raised unbelievably year after year, while schools got worse, the roads went unrepaired, crime went up and the city responded by raising taxes on those left paying. Finally, I decided to hell with this and moved out. The big cities have become a mess because the city leaders think that no one is mobile and they can keep on taxing those that still pay. Eventually, it becomes apparent that they will never let up and will break your finances. I now live in a rural area and have BETTER police/fire response, MUCH less crime and increasing property value with property taxes that are very visible. I can directly see where my taxes are going and my family and community benefit from them. They aren’t taxing me and sending the money to buy votes to raise my taxes again. I would much rather take my chances out in the country than ever live in a big city again.


31 posted on 06/17/2009 5:26:59 AM PDT by Texas resident (Texan by birth and by choice.)
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To: Red Badger

uh oh...

I guess that’s my clue that the unread Atlas Shrugged book on my back seat of my car should be....brought inside.

*looking down. Feeling sheepish. Not up to FReeper standards....yet!*


32 posted on 06/17/2009 5:30:02 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

Don't worry, that lil ol islamic bomb will take care of that pesky large city thing for you in due time.

33 posted on 06/17/2009 5:30:15 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Stupid people do and say stupid things: nuff said if you voted for the O.


34 posted on 06/17/2009 5:33:41 AM PDT by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: Texas resident

“A Country Boy can survive”.

Enjoy a little Bocephus . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg


35 posted on 06/17/2009 5:43:40 AM PDT by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Don’t feel bad, I’m still trying to get thru Rand’s “The Fountainhead” after over a year..............


36 posted on 06/17/2009 5:52:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Inquiring minds want to know, but American Idol minds could care less...)
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To: Nuc1

I guess there really is a silver lining to every cloud.

Most, if not all, of the cities the Islam loving terrorists have on their list to attack are liberal strong holds.


37 posted on 06/17/2009 6:09:23 AM PDT by Wahoo82
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To: Daisyjane69
"reason why the Japanese general in WWII ruled out an attack on the U.S. mainland. Had something to do with knowing there would be a gun behind every blade of grass."

That was Admiral Yamamoto. He had said that Japan had to win the war within six months or he feared all they will have done would be to wake the sleeping giant. He was right. We ended up shooting his plane down in 1943.
38 posted on 06/17/2009 6:12:15 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Yeah? Well what the hell will they DO about it? Ask their Hero B.O. for a giant rural federal subsidy/bailout?

Maybe they ought to come to their senses and see where their party is headed. They can convert to conservatism, come to the Republicans, and take America back to the promise of liberty and freedom.

Nah. That’d make sense.

What will probably happen is they’ll be given a token nod or two by B.O., a sufficient number of them will swoon, and the decline of our once great nation will continue.


39 posted on 06/17/2009 6:12:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

well why don’t the nitwits running Chicago know this? If the mere threat of that could keep a foreign power from attacking, shouldn’t that keep the south side in line?


40 posted on 06/17/2009 6:25:30 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: Daisyjane69
"well why don’t the nitwits running Chicago know this?"

They do, its not about guns, its about control. The statists objective is to control the people, make them subjects not citizens. Thinking is not needed anymore. The government will do your thinking for you...
41 posted on 06/17/2009 8:03:49 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Maybe they ought to come to their senses and see where their party is headed. They can convert to conservatism, come to the Republicans"

For some insights into the minds of many "liberals", read my post 17 for a little vignette that might help to explain some of this. For some people, calling themselves conservative means you are for big business and don't care about the people. It's ignorance of whats going on today, not 50 years ago.
42 posted on 06/17/2009 8:07:14 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Eye of Unk

The inner cities fear us backwoods rural savages.

Very true, the ‘hood, the barrio and the elitist liberal snobs in the city are very petrified.

However, we conservatives in the city, on the fronts lines, engaging the liberals on their own turf,(DAILY)consider the good,conservative country folks our brothers-in-arms.


43 posted on 06/17/2009 10:55:50 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Apparently, many rural Democrats are still actual Americans at heart (you know — flag waving, God-fearing, gun-owning, Pledge-reciting, military-serving, free-speaking, self-reliant).


44 posted on 06/17/2009 11:01:28 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Daisyjane69
remember reading (a long time ago) the reason why the Japanese general in WWII ruled out an attack on the U.S. mainland. Had something to do with knowing there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.

I remember reading and/or hearing about that too.

45 posted on 06/17/2009 11:13:09 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I recall clearly that NObama was caught on tape responding to a question about appearing in more suburbs..
He said he didn’t care about the suburbs and cared less about ‘rural’ people.

He must think his milk comes from Safeway.....


46 posted on 06/17/2009 11:14:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Daisyjane69

I’m convinced that some our tradesmen have the highest IQ of them all- they’re just one or two generations behind others in the college deal.

At the moment the woman I have here wallpapering is the only one who could figure out how to park so that all four drivers in our family have free access to our driveway. She has also been working for hours and from what I can see has not made one wrong cut yet. She’s been listening to some history channel on her mini-TV the whole time. I bet she knows more about history than most Yale graduates.


47 posted on 06/17/2009 11:20:08 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Recon Dad

“If Zero is true to form in the next day or two you will see a bone thrown to rural Democrats...”

Think he’ll appear at a pig roast?


48 posted on 06/17/2009 11:21:57 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Daisyjane69

don’t worry, you have company..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=freeper%20book%20club


49 posted on 06/17/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
"They don't get rural America," said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California's agriculture-rich Central Valley. "They form their views of the world in large cities." Cardoza's critique was aimed at Obama's Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions.

50 posted on 06/17/2009 2:39:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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