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Brazil official to AP: Crash bodies show fractures
AP via Google News ^
| June 17, 2009
| By STAN LEHMAN
Posted on 06/17/2009 11:04:49 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Blueflag
On the speed you are wrong, terminal velocity is around 120-150MPH with in that area on average. There are a few other factors in voled but that the usual speed. I know this fact after skydiving for a few years.
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06/17/2009 12:54:03 PM PDT
by
TMSuchman
(I'll heat up & bring the tar, you bring the feathers & we'll meet in DC!)
To: TMSuchman
Ok, best to speak from experience. I had thought non-streamlined free-fall was closer 10 100kts.
I understood if you get all tucked in you can hit 120 - 150, but not as a falling human.
I defer to your experience. I try to stay IN the cockpit myself ;-)
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06/17/2009 1:18:02 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitur)
To: caver
LOL FReeRepublic is like that. I always try to check what I write ... is this from MEMORY (scary) or have I fact-checked it?!?!? I get burned every time I *THINK* I know ...
I feel your pain.
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06/17/2009 1:23:59 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitur)
To: Blueflag
From the B-52 article: "the Air Force early on experienced tail sections and stabilizers breaking off"
They don't just "fall off". But pretty much any aircraft surface can be overstressed to failure, either by excessive G forces or by wind shear - if the forces are strong enough.
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06/17/2009 1:25:00 PM PDT
by
ChicagahAl
(Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
To: SkyDancer
You are correct in that CAT can be roll/yaw/shear/lift/drop, all at once!
These guys weren’t in CAT; they were in convection.
Just my experience really, not so much scientific study. Storms bump you up and down/ ground effects, CAT, mountains, Jet stream can toss you around. Any lateral boundary layer can produce “shear”
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posted on
06/17/2009 1:27:22 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitur)
To: Blueflag
You are correct in the position of a “body” when falling. The “bullet” position is to gain more speed in the air, like an F-14 pulling it's wings back. But a body falling through the air from Ft Level 350 the bodies, would be in all sorts of positions while falling. The water would still be as hard as a rock when landing, but the “bodies” at that point were far from caring. The person that was in that body has gone to Heaven, for their final reward! My only hope is that they did not feel anything before the end. All though I can be there was a great amount of fear, going through the aircraft!
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posted on
06/17/2009 1:42:20 PM PDT
by
TMSuchman
(I'll heat up & bring the tar, you bring the feathers & we'll meet in DC!)
To: Blueflag
Still thinking storms ....convection can flip a plane over. The plane must have encountered weather forces that tore it apart.
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06/17/2009 2:47:26 PM PDT
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SkyDancer
('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: Blueflag
“LOL FReeRepublic is like that. I always try to check what I write ... is this from MEMORY (scary) or have I fact-checked it?!?!? I get burned every time I *THINK* I know .”
Yea, even if I don’t know some one will correct me. That’s all right. I got thick skin and am usually wrong more than I am right. It keeps me on my toes. Bring it on Freepers!
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06/17/2009 7:00:15 PM PDT
by
caver
(Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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