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No name-calling (Baghdad Jim's Rude secretary)
Shenanigans (Politico.Com) ^ | 6/17/09 | Anne Schroeder

Posted on 06/17/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by llevrok

If you want to score a meeting with Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.), know this: His scheduler/office manager, Elizabeth Becton, is to be addressed by her full name — not Liz or any other variant.

An executive assistant at McBee Strategic recently learned this the hard way. A few weeks ago, the assistant e-mailed Becton seeking a meeting with McDermott and a client, JPMorgan Chase. Days later, the assistant checked back in and unfortunately began the e-mail with “Hi Liz.”

Becton curtly replied, “Who is Liz?”

When the assistant wrote back with an apology, Becton turned up the heat. “I do not go by Liz. Where did you get your information?” she asked.

The back-and-forth went on for 19 e-mails, with the assistant apologizing six times if she had “offended” Becton, while Becton lectured about name-calling.

Becton told the assistant that if someone said using “Liz” was acceptable, then “they are not your friend”, and “If I wanted you to call me by any other name, I would have offered that to you.” Plus, it’s “rude when people don’t even ask permission and take all sorts of liberties with your name,” she said, adding: “Please do not ever call me by a nickname again.”

But the tirade didn’t end there. Becton continued her riff — responding that the assistant “got played” by someone who was trying to “tick” Becton off. Becton’s final, searing missive stated: “In the future, you should be VERY careful about such things. People like to brag about their connections in D.C. It’s a pastime for some. It’s also dangerous to eavesdrop, as you have just found out. Quit apologizing and never call me anything but Elizabeth again. Also, make sure you correct anyone who attempts to call me by any other name but Elizabeth. Are we clear on this? Like I said, it’s a hot button for me. And please don’t call the office and not leave a message. My colleague told me you called while I was away. ... I do sometimes leave my desk.”

McDermott spokesman Mike DeCesare told us Tuesday, “An apology is being issued as we speak,” adding, “This isn’t reflective of the way we do business in this office.”

Read the saucy email exchange after the jump:

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Here’s a redacted version of the exchange:

From: XXX Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:38 AM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: JPMC Meeting Request

Elizabeth,

Attached is a meeting request for JP Morgan Chase who will be in DC June 3rd-4th and would like to request a brief meeting with the Congressman.

Let me know if you need any additional information.

Thank you!

Best, XXX

________________________________

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:05 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Liz,

just checking in on whether the Congressman is available next week. [REDACTED] can confirm a meeting time for you - she is available at [REDACTED].

Thank you!

Best, XXX

________________________________

From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:07 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request Importance: High

Who is Liz?

Elizabeth Becton Executive Assistant/Office Manager Office of Congressman Jim McDermott XXXX Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 XXX phone XXX fax ________________________________

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:07 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, I thought you went by Liz - apologies if that is incorrect. Best, XXX

________________________________

From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:08 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

I do not go by Liz. Where did you get your information? ________________________________

Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:10 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, I'm so sorry if I offended you! I thought you had gone by Liz at Potlatch, this was my mistake. Best, XXX

________________________________ From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:11 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

NEVER. I hate that name.

________________________________

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:13 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, I'm so sorry if I offended you! I must have mis-heard. My mistake! Best, XX

________________________________

From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request Importance: High

XXX:

If I wanted you to call me by any other name, I would have offered that to you. I think it's rude when people don't even ask permission and take all sorts of liberties with your name. This is a real sore spot with me. My name has a lot of "nicknames" which I don't use. I use either my first name or my last name because I row with a lot of other women who share the same first name. Now, please do not ever call me by a nickname again.

As for your meeting request, who is the point of contact for this meeting? If it's not you, then I need to know who because it's very time-consuming to deal with a lot of people for one meeting.

Thanks,

________________________________

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:23 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, I'm so sorry I offended you! My mistake!

XXX can confirm a meeting time for you - she is available at XXX XXXX.

Thank you!

Best, XXX

________________________________ [UNRELATED EMAILS REDACTED]

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:33 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Of course! Again, I am sincerely sorry for offending you. I must have mis-heard and it was in no way my intention to make you upset. I always enjoy working with you and seeing you at the WSS events J

Best, XXX

________________________________

From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:37 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Sounds like you got played by someone who KNOWS I hate that name and that it's a fast way to TICK me off. Who told you that I go by that name? They are not your friend...

________________________________

From: XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:38 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth,

Again, I am sincerely sorry for offending you. I don't want to cause trouble as I clearly must have mis-heard the person at Potlatch. It was in no way my intention to make you upset.

Best, XXX

________________________________

From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:41 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request Importance: High

I REALLY want to know who told you to call me that.

________________________________

From:XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:44 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, Again, I am sincerely sorry for offending you. I don't recall who I overheard. It was in no way my intention to make you upset. Best, XXX

________________________________ From: Becton, Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:04 PM To: XXX Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Let me put it this way, they don't know me and perhaps they were PRETENDING to know me better than they do and pretended that I go by Liz. They did YOU a disservice.

In the future, you should be VERY careful about such things. People like to brag about their connections in DC. It's a past time for some. It's also dangerous to eaves drop, as you have just found out.

Quit apologizing and never call me anything but Elizabeth again. Also, make sure you correct anyone who attempts to call me by any other name but Elizabeth. Are we clear on this? Like I said, it's a hot button for me.

And please don't call the office and not leave a message. My colleague told me you called while I was away at the Ladies' room. I do sometimes leave my desk.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 111th; baghdadjim; elizabethbecton; lightenupliz; liz; mcdermott; ocd; otr; rudedems; touchedinthehead
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The peak of congressional rudeness from an idiot's gal Friday.
1 posted on 06/17/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: sionnsar

WA Ping


2 posted on 06/17/2009 6:50:15 PM PDT by llevrok (A feral conservative in my own land.)
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To: llevrok

Wow. If I used the names that fit her, I would get banned. Wow.


3 posted on 06/17/2009 6:52:59 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: llevrok

"Lighten up, Frances."
4 posted on 06/17/2009 6:55:22 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: llevrok

It’s a power struggle and Liz won. That’s Washington for you. Her power is with Baghdad Jim. As long as he’s in power, she stays in power. However, once Baghdad Jim loses (we hope most sincerely it happens soon), Lizard Liddy will receive her comeuppance. Tom Foley’s wife, Heather (and she’s a dragon too) controlled the parking spots. She also controlled Foley’s office. With parking at a premium, you can your booties, Heather wielded her power like Lizard Liddy. These emails weren’t about an erroneous name. It was about Lizard Lizzie exerting her power.


5 posted on 06/17/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: llevrok

I so wish I had Liz’s email. She sounds lonely.


6 posted on 06/17/2009 6:56:52 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: llevrok

You can email her here:

Elizabeth.becton@mail.house.gov.

I thanked her for the laugh, and of course addressed her as Liz.


7 posted on 06/17/2009 6:57:34 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Texas Eagle

“From:XXX Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:44 PM To: Becton, Elizabeth Subject: RE: JPMC Meeting Request

Hi Elizabeth, Again, I am sincerely sorry for offending you. I don’t recall who I overheard. It was in no way my intention to make you upset. Best, XXX “

Hi Elizabeth,
Get that pole out your a** and stop being such a complete BI**H.

But I bet you secretly like that pole...


8 posted on 06/17/2009 7:00:20 PM PDT by CTyank
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To: llevrok
Suggested Response:

My Dear Ms Becton,
Please accept my apology for calling you "Liz".
Henceforth I promise I shall use your proper name
ELIZABITCH!

Yours Truly,
(XXX)

9 posted on 06/17/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: llevrok
As I posted on the other thread about this, she has every right to ask to be treated respectfully by someone that she doesn’t know. I am also very irritated by someone presuming intimacy when I have just met them.

She may have gone overboard but it is irritating to be addressed by your first name let alone a diminutive by someone that you don't know.

10 posted on 06/17/2009 7:01:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: llevrok

"No, I'm serious......and don't call me Shirley".
11 posted on 06/17/2009 7:02:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MNDude

Heard you were looking for a new consultant...
You should drop this “girl” a line. ;o)


12 posted on 06/17/2009 7:03:21 PM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Fiddlstix

Yeah, like no one has ever called her “Liz” in her life before.

She’s like her boss and her President—power drunk and thin skinned.


13 posted on 06/17/2009 7:06:28 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: llevrok
McDermott spokesman Mike DeCesare told us Tuesday, “An apology is being issued as we speak

Sounds like Liz's boss is going to make McBee Strategic really grovel, if they want even more apologies.

14 posted on 06/17/2009 7:07:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: llevrok

These idiots in Washington work for us and get paid by us. If they want to act like snot-nosed elitists, let them get a job somewhere else.


15 posted on 06/17/2009 7:08:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: ExpatGator
When did, "let me perfectly clear" become a proper thing to say to someone.

I have also heard the "chosen one," President Hussein say it.

To me its pompous and obnoxious.

If someone says that to me, they will get an earful.

Thanks for email address, I addressed her as Liz, Beth, and snotty B#$%h.

16 posted on 06/17/2009 7:11:17 PM PDT by Selmore (Leave the gun, take the canoli)
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Hey Liz,
What’s the problem? You seem on edge about your name. Can’t handle the woman monthly stuff? C’mon, you’re not a man. So not to worry. Have a good cry. You’ll feel better.

Please remember also: both you and the Congressman work at the tax payer’s discretion and he (not you) is elected to serve the American people.

Now be a good gal Friday and get me a cup of coffee.

XXXXXX
Olympia, WA


17 posted on 06/17/2009 7:14:25 PM PDT by llevrok (A feral conservative in my own land.)
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To: llevrok

May I suggest Betty as her new nickname?

I think she’ll really like that one.

Mrs. AV


18 posted on 06/17/2009 7:20:45 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (Vim Toot!)
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To: ExpatGator

Hi Liz,
Liz, I read about you and Rep. McDermott on the internet. It sounds like you’re both doing a great job, Liz. Please, Liz, keep up the good work, Liz. Thanks again, Liz.

Sincerely, Liz.

*** ******


19 posted on 06/17/2009 7:21:01 PM PDT by Krankor ("Quit talking about the eight men, or there's gonna be nine.")
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To: exit82
She's just a typical LIB.....
Always looking for ways to be "offended".....
Libs just have to be "victims".....
It's a given.....
20 posted on 06/17/2009 7:22:26 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Atomic Vomit
May I suggest Betty as her new nickname?

How about "Beth, baby"?

21 posted on 06/17/2009 7:23:32 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: llevrok

They all seem to be morons concerned with only themselves.

Liz, Liz, Liz, Liz, Liz, Liz

Ya think I will get an appointment with her boss? :)


22 posted on 06/17/2009 7:26:18 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: llevrok

She’s under the influence of “self-importance”.


23 posted on 06/17/2009 7:42:38 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: freekitty
LOLOLOL!!!

Let's INUNDATE the pompous self-important old meanie. It's not even her importance by right, she just works for a self-important old guy.

I wouldn't call her a bitch, my dogs are respectable females who always treat visitors politely.

24 posted on 06/17/2009 7:43:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Couldn’t agree more. I have some very important bitches living with me. LOL


25 posted on 06/17/2009 7:52:49 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: llevrok
Lizzie Becton, battleax
Call her Liz and she attacks
Call her Lizard just for fun
Send her running for a gun
26 posted on 06/17/2009 7:56:53 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Lizzie Becton took an axe,
And gave Strategic forty whacks.
And when we saw what she had done,
We had a little Email fun . . . .
27 posted on 06/17/2009 7:58:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: freekitty

"I just took care of Lizzie's Emails."

28 posted on 06/17/2009 8:02:28 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
We should have a poe-try contest.

Send 'em to Liz and she can judge...

29 posted on 06/17/2009 8:04:35 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK
LOL!

As Black Bart, the PO-8 of Crime, said when a reporter asked him upon his release from prison (for robbing a couple of Wells Fargo stagecoaches) if he was going to be writing any more poetry,

"Son, didn't you hear me say I've given up a life of crime?"


30 posted on 06/17/2009 8:06:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: llevrok

It is bitches like Liz who give the rest of us women a bad name.

:)


31 posted on 06/17/2009 8:12:46 PM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

ROTFLOL.

Good one. I like that you called her Lizzie too. I can hardly type, I am laughing so much.


32 posted on 06/17/2009 8:39:20 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: JRochelle

Maybe Liz should go work for Barbara Boxer:

Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) to a General at a hearing yesterday: “Do me a favor,” she said. “Could say senator instead of Ma’am It’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it, thank you.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2273865/posts

Like you JRochelle, I’m getting tired of women who are perpetually offended. It does make the rest of us women look bad. If no offense is intended, why make a big deal out of it?


33 posted on 06/17/2009 8:40:12 PM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: AnAmericanMother

This is a really good thread.


34 posted on 06/17/2009 8:41:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: JRochelle
It is bitches like Liz who give the rest of us women a bad name.

If I may... Women have a great name. B*tches are b*tches.

Confident Men and Women know the difference.

35 posted on 06/17/2009 8:46:32 PM PDT by llevrok (A feral conservative in my own land.)
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To: llevrok
For what it is worth, Here is the e-mail I sent her....

Hi Liz,
I read about your e-mail exchange in the news. Wow, you must have some real anger issues. Why is it that all liberal Democrats are so angry?
You know I have a daughter named Elizabeth. When she was growing up she did not like her name so she went by her middle name. Then while in High School she decided she did not like her middle name and wanted to be known as Elizabeth. But now she has graduated from college and we laugh about the things she did as a teenager.
I don't think I read in the article; but how old are you?
Well, I am sorry you don't like to be called Liz; but think of it this way you could be called by a name a whole lot worse...
Maybe you should think about some anger management counseling. Maybe its your boss. I know I have had some real embarrassing bosses in my life time.
Anyway, lighten up after all we are paying your salary; which from what I read, you appeared to be highly overpaid.

Take care Liz

Sincerely,
Donald

BTW, people have also called me Don, Donny, and Donna but its okay because I am a grown up :)

36 posted on 06/17/2009 8:56:01 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: llevrok; freekitty

Having worked in politics and as a Human Resources employee, my recommendation for dealing with this twit would be to send a letter reporting this snot assistant to the Congressman. I would inform him that you have all the emails sent by his twit assistant and that you plan to post them on blogs on the Internet so the world can read what rude employees he has representing him. I would also say that I’m sending the emails to Glenn Beck and Hannity at Fox News. Further, you will be keeping the emails to be used by his opponent when he runs for re-election. I would tell the Congressman that he was sent to Washington to serve the citizens of his district and they should be able to contact him without be subjected to a rude, arrogant, snot.


37 posted on 06/17/2009 9:48:45 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: okie01

She would love that one. ROTFLOL


38 posted on 06/17/2009 10:14:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: keepitreal

Boxer was a loser a long time ago.


39 posted on 06/17/2009 10:22:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yep, she’s a real peach, isn’t she? LOL


40 posted on 06/17/2009 11:01:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“she has every right to ask to be treated respectfully by someone that she doesn’t know. I am also very irritated by someone presuming intimacy when I have just met them.”

Give me a break. People in positions of power may have the luxury to “Demand respect”, but this is an administrative grunt job, her duties are to provide assistance and customer service to constituents. She might prefer Elizabeth and has every right to request that for the future. She has no right to berate, become angry, and then demand she quit apologizing. Geez.......

A polite - “Thanks for your email, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Elizabeth and I am in charge of ....... I will get back with you as to the times and dates of the meeting.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth.


41 posted on 06/17/2009 11:49:52 PM PDT by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: Texas Eagle

“And I don’t like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I’ll kill you. Also, I don’t like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I’ll kill you”


42 posted on 06/18/2009 12:20:59 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: DJ MacWoW
She may have gone overboard but it is irritating to be addressed by your first name let alone a diminutive by someone that you don't know.

I have never understood people who throw a hissy fit over things like that.

43 posted on 06/18/2009 12:32:23 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: llevrok

This lady is more than just rude, she has real mental issues that need to be resolved. How she manages to get any real work done while obsessing on non issues like this, is beyond me. If I were Rep.McDermott I would, perhaps temporarily, remove her from her position or at the very least suggest that she take an obviously much needed break from the job. She’s really too thin skinned to be associated with politics in any way.

I myself have gone through life with an almost unpronounceable Gaelic first name. When I married, on top of my first name, I took on an often mispronounced French last name. Seldom, if ever, are these names said correctly the first time I am addressed by strangers. Do I care? No. I laugh and tell people not to worry about it. As long as I can figure out that they are addressing me and respond appropriately, its all good.


44 posted on 06/18/2009 2:32:31 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Mila

McDermott is a wackjob, too.


45 posted on 06/18/2009 4:10:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ODDITHER; Junior_G
Her reaction was out of line but it is also very rude to presume a familiarity that doesn't exist.

Oddither, whether a government employee or a housewife, it is rude to use a nickname that has never been offered.

Junior_G, it's called good manners and we've lost them.

46 posted on 06/18/2009 4:12:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: llevrok

Hello Liz,

Sorry to hear, Liz, that you’re offended by people calling you Liz. You shouldn’t be, Liz.

Dear Liz, Liz as a term of endearment has a long and proud history, Liz.

For example, Liz, lizards carry the prefix “Liz” in their name. But one should never call a lizard a “Liz” because it might confuse people into thinking you’re a lizard, Liz. We don’t want that, nor do we want to belittle lizards by being identified with you, Liz.

To avoid confusion amongst people thinking you’re a lizard, Liz, try adding a few “Zs” to your name, like this - Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Hiss out the last dozen or so “Zs” for good effect so everyone knows it’s you, and not a lizard.

This new pronounciation should garner the necessary attention you seek, Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Anyway, Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, I am so happy to be of service to you. If I can be of further assistance, don’t hesitate to call.

Goodbye, Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

PS - you might find flies tasty. But get them with your tongue.


47 posted on 06/18/2009 5:30:10 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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48 posted on 06/18/2009 5:57:55 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: llevrok

Poor Lizzy.


49 posted on 06/19/2009 10:54:13 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Junior_G, it’s called good manners and we’ve lost them.”

On the face of it, I agree with you.

However, how many times must one apologize?
1?
2?
10?

Perhaps there is more to the story.
However, she corrected him.
He apologized.

Elizabeth was rude to belabor the point.

“it’s called good manners and we’ve lost them.”


50 posted on 06/19/2009 6:27:19 PM PDT by M0sby (T)
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