Posted on 06/18/2009 4:37:03 AM PDT by Libloather
Prepare for Canadian Health Care
June 17, 2009
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RUSH: Windsor, Ontario, Ed -- this is in Canada -- great to have you on the program, sir. Thank you for waiting.
CALLER: Yes. Thank you for taking my call.
RUSH: Yes, sir.
CALLER: I have a concrete example of the effect of the Ontario, Canada, health care system on one family unfortunately. Today's Windsor Star newspaper, page five, this gentleman, he's 30 years old, husband, father, has been in the system treated for cancer, but it's come back. He has stage four melanoma. He has inoperable tumors on his heart and his colon. There's one treatment available to him now, it's Interleukin 2. It's essentially unavailable in Canada. He and his wife, after hassling with the bureaucrats of the Ontario, Canada, health care system, which is so praised, two months of hassling, they got approved to go to the United States and have the treatment done and paid for. There are two world-class treatment centers in Detroit, about a half hour from his house. I'm looking at GM building in Detroit right now across the river.
RUSH: Right.
CLARK: Okay. He did not get approved for Harbor Hospital or Karmanos Cancer Center in Detroit. He got approved by the Ontario system for the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York. Instead of a half hour trip there and a half hour trip back -- I've had cancer treatment and I'm --
RUSH: Wait a second. There's one word in what you're saying --
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: -- that ought to send chills up people's back and the word is "approved." Here you're describing a Canadian citizen with stage four melanoma and only a couple treatments available.
CALLER: One treatment.
RUSH: One treatment available. And he has only been approved to go to one hospital that happens to be in Buffalo, approved. That's where we're headed -- "approved." You mean to tell me this guy cannot get in his car and cross the border because if he goes someplace unapproved Canada won't pay for it?
CALLER: Oh, no, he'd be hooked for it, and no follow-up care because he didn't do an approved procedure.
RUSH: Approved procedure at an approved location, Canada single payer health care.
CALLER: Yes, sir. When you've had cancer treatment, and I've had it, a half hour ride home is plenty. But four hours I can't imagine, that's going to affect his -- well, his shot. You know, your immune system is weakened by everything --
RUSH: Yeah. Yeah.
CALLER: -- just the survival. That is not the only story. It happens to be right here on the page. The guy was not a person who abused his own health. He used to run the Detroit marathon. He is a kinesiologist, he works in the health system.
RUSH: Who cares if he abused his own health?
CALLER: Well, he didn't.
RUSH: I know he didn't but --
CALLER: Right.
RUSH: -- in my version of freedom, who cares if he did? Health care ought to be available. There's nobody that doesn't abuse their health. Some might say that doing all that jogging is an abusive treatment to joints and this sort of thing, who the hell knows? This is all absurd. This is just 1984ish absurd.
CALLER: The worst absurdity, Rush, is -- and I've listened to you for a long time -- people do not understand, we have freedoms in Canada more than almost anyone in the world, but we have a lot of them just through cultural exchange with you people. They're here because they're here. You have these freedoms in law. You have the Constitution. You have all these things written down. No one in the world has these, and you're letting them get taken away. It drives us completely crazy.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. And you know why it's happening? Because people think that letting go of their liberty is giving them security.
CALLER: Well, we know the phrase about that, that you'll have neither.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: I wish I had a better story to tell you.
RUSH: It's a great story, it's a great story in the sense of it's instructive. Details are not happy for this guy, but, for crying out loud, one treatment is available, it isn't available in Canada, he has to be approved. In other words, to take a step, save his life, requires the government approving it. That is going to happen whenever there's a government-run health care system. I'll tell you where this is headed, I can make this story worse. At some point, somebody's going to say, "Look, stage four, tumor heart, tumor wherever, only a couple places will do it, we're not going to approve any treatment, it's a waste of money, we don't have the money for it. I mean, this guy's near the end of life anyway, give him a patch and that's it." That's where we're headed with this because everything's going to be based on money and how we can't afford this, can't afford that, and a lot of people are going to get a death sentence that today don't. Thanks Ed. Appreciate the call. A lot of gold-mine calls on the EIB Network today.
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Wow.
I absolutely guarantee this will happen in America if obamacare becomes law. There is nothing, nothing to prevent this. Government, actually obama, will run health care, as we know it, into the ground!
Does anyone have any doubt whatsoever, that this means that the elderly will be denied treatment for life-threatening illnesses?
Government “healthcare” is run by leftists. One of the dogmas of the left is that the elderly should just die.
For example, if "they" sought to impose a Canadian type system on us with all of its prohibitions on seeking care outside the plan I'd simply join a group that's willing to kidnap a doctor to keep for our own purposes.
Lots of Americans would be willing to do that ~ millions of them in fact!
You couldn't get otherwise lawabiding Canadians to even think of dealing with a medical emergency that way, but we are a much more resourceful people.
Three days ago I called my doctor to have him take a look at a finger injury that didn’t seem to be healing right. Figured, I might as well ask for a full physical, since I was due. He said “How about tomorrow at 7:00 a.m.?”
While I was there I mentioned some mild pain/pressure in my side, and he said “Let’s do an ultrasound of your abdomen. How about tomorrow at 9:00 a.m.?”.
Granted, I may have been a little lucky with the scheduling, but tell me again what the crisis is with American healthcare?
Got a clean bill of health BTW.
This is what the Baby Boomers wanted back when they chanted “Don’t trust anyone over 30”. Well. they’re 65 now.
In Kanada this is called the "Halloween" health kare system. By Halloween all the money in the budget has been spent and any procedure needed will have to wait until next budget year. So basically if you get sick after Halloween and require a major test or procedure like an MRI or even a new hip or knee its "Tough it out" till next year or just die in pain. This is what Obama promises or worse.
We might as well say it now -
if you oppose the power of the statist,
you will be denied health care.
Period. This is what it’s about. Using the power of the state to punish ideological enemies.
Leftists always use the power of the state to punish their ideological opponents.
When they don’t have enough power to do so, they seek justification (”hate speech” laws).
When they DO have enough power, it’s “to the wall, all you counter-revolutionaries”.
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