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Ayatollahs are Running Scared. 500,000 Defy Threats with Rally. Iran's Top Mullah to Beg for Calm
NY Post ^ | June 18, 2009 | PARISA HAFEZI and HASHEM KALANTARI, and ANDY SOLTIS

Posted on 06/18/2009 4:57:39 AM PDT by Scanian

TEHRAN, Iran -- Hundreds of thousands of Iranians marched in quiet defiance on the fifth day of post-election chaos yesterday, setting the stage for a showdown today with the increasingly worried hard-liners.

Trying to stem the uprising, Iran's "supreme leader," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called in representatives of all four candidates in the dubious election, in an effort to quell the angry protests that threaten the 30-year-old Islamic regime.

Khamenei, who backed extremist President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's re-election, has not been seen in a week but is expected to plead for calm tomorrow. Officials said he will make a rare appearance leading Friday prayers in Tehran.

Today, pro-reform activists plan a rally to mourn "martyrs" gunned down by regime thugs at this week's protests.

Among the latest developments:

* Ahmadinejad opponents cited proof of the rigged election, including figures that showed more than 30 Iranian towns cast more votes than they had registered voters.

One town, Taft, had a turnout of 141 percent, an opposition Web site said. Another town, Kouhrang, had 132 percent.

Government officials said there was a record 85 percent turnout nationally.

* At least 500 political activists, journalists and students were reported to have been arrested during the government's post-election crackdown.

Among those seized yesterday was Saeed Laylaz, editor of the business daily Sarmayeh, who warned last week that Iran could be headed for a post-election bloodbath.

* Iran accused the United States for the first time of "intolerable" meddling in the crisis.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; iranviolence2009; khamenei; studentmovement
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1 posted on 06/18/2009 4:57:40 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Iran accused the United States for the first time of "intolerable" meddling in the crisis.

Are you reading this Obama? Do nothing at all, or even supinely support the current Iranian administration, and the Mullahs will still reflexively blame the Great Satan.

2 posted on 06/18/2009 5:00:38 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Scanian

Looks like it’s still going strong after looking at photos on Twitter.

Noticed Amnesty International issued a tepid plea to keep it peaceful.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 5:02:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: agere_contra

Of course, if the students were to prevail, you-know-who will take some credit.

And Mousavi appears to be as bad a Ahmadinejad.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 5:04:18 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Scanian
Let's see...

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei selects several “candidates” for an “election” for head figurehead.

Iranians think they were cheated because the “candidate” they voted for didn't win and so are demanding new “elections” to get another of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s hand picked “candidates” as head figurehead.

Meanwhile the Ayatollah’s are “scared” because the Iranian people are demanding that one of the Ayatollah’s hand picked “candidate's” be selected as head figurehead.

Hmmm...

I must be missing something...

5 posted on 06/18/2009 5:04:30 AM PDT by DB
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To: Scanian

No idea how this is all going to shake out, but at least the Iranians have the will to actually DO something when they see fraud in an election. I can only wish more Americans would have the same energy and courage.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 5:05:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Scanian
Hang in there, brave Iranians. You're making headway.

Don't let them make you retreat. Onward to freedom.

7 posted on 06/18/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: Scanian
Twitter report

palaba: RT state TV & Radio went berserk today, all saying are moosavi's supporters are all criminals & they will stop us at any cost
8 posted on 06/18/2009 5:07:20 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: DB
My gut feeling is that this stopped being about the election a few days ago.

This has been brewing in Iran for a few years now. The election was just the catalyst.

9 posted on 06/18/2009 5:09:06 AM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: DB

“I must be missing something...”

I don’t think this is as much about wanting to actually have Mousavi as president as it is to have a free and fair election. Mousavi would be just a transitory figure. This is something more than just wanting another mullah. We shall see. It’s inspiring to see they aren’t just backing off.


10 posted on 06/18/2009 5:09:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Allegra

“Hang in there, brave Iranians. You’re making headway”

YES!! Even if our feckless, ineffectual, so-called “president” won’t even give you so much as lukewarm support, the great majority of aware Americans support you strongly. Keep up the fight!


11 posted on 06/18/2009 5:10:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Scanian
* Ahmadinejad opponents cited proof of the rigged election, including figures that showed more than 30 Iranian towns cast more votes than they had registered voters.

Sounds like U.S. elections...LOL!

12 posted on 06/18/2009 5:12:53 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Scanian

better if:

“Iran’s Top Mullahs to Beg for life”


13 posted on 06/18/2009 5:15:20 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: agere_contra
Do nothing at all, or even supinely support the current Iranian administration, and the Mullahs will still reflexively blame the Great Satan.

Or obama is having the CIA do overt plans in Iran. The US gov't is not going to come out and flatly say they are trying to get rid of the mullahs.

14 posted on 06/18/2009 5:17:18 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: Scanian

Iranians are looking at Iraq and Trashcanistan and saying why not us? This is the hunger for freedom and Democracy that everybody has. We however are moving towards tyranny.

Pray for America


15 posted on 06/18/2009 5:18:13 AM PDT by bray (Hey America, hows that Hope and Chains goin?)
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To: Allegra
My gut feeling is that this stopped being about the election a few days ago. This has been brewing in Iran for a few years now. The election was just the catalyst.

Yep, the people have had enough.

16 posted on 06/18/2009 5:18:19 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: Allegra
This has been brewing in Iran for a few years now. The election was just the catalyst.

I think that must be a factor. But also: both Mousavi and Khorrubi have made removing the hated Basiji a plank of their platform.

From our point of view Mousavi is a bad guy, but he's enough of an opportunist to make reforms for cynical reasons. And if the Basiji are maimed as a political force then Iran will be much more open to Western influences.

17 posted on 06/18/2009 5:18:38 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ScottinVA

How can you have a “free and fair” election when the Ayatollah picks the candidates?

They want a new “election” with the same candidates...

A point without a difference...


18 posted on 06/18/2009 5:19:54 AM PDT by DB
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To: Scanian
Twitter report

iran88: RT: @lotfan: Demonstrations in Tookphooneh (Imam Khomeini) Sq. is now fully underway
19 posted on 06/18/2009 5:23:24 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Allegra

I think you are correct. It has the smell of a genuine popular uprising. It could be what the world is in store for due to the multiplying digital communications now available.

Freedom. There is nothing so powerful as an idea whose time has come.


20 posted on 06/18/2009 5:26:58 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Scanian

“* Ahmadinejad opponents cited proof of the rigged election, including figures that showed more than 30 Iranian towns cast more votes than they had registered voters.”

Obama must have sent ACORN in to help with their election.


21 posted on 06/18/2009 5:27:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: agere_contra
Iran will be much more open to Western influences.

Yeah, but is that a good thing?

22 posted on 06/18/2009 5:28:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Scanian

They should call their spiritual leader, Jimmy Carter, for advice and council. He did so much to get the regime started and he’ll know what to do now.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 5:29:09 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Scanian

wonder when the u.s. will protest 500000 or more strong in the streets against our gov’t....seems like it gets peoples attention...


24 posted on 06/18/2009 5:30:26 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: tc45a
Yep, the people have had enough.

I think Iran has suffered from high unemployment, high prices and corrupt dictatorial government. The crooked election was just the spark. (Hmmm - this sounds familiar!!!)

25 posted on 06/18/2009 5:31:19 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (A victim of 0bamunist 0ppression!)
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To: Allegra

told my other half the day of the election that this was possibly going to lead to a civil uprising over there....i hope that they don’t back down and that more people here take note and possibly follow suit to bring down obozo and his agenda....


26 posted on 06/18/2009 5:32:37 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: agere_contra

It is not reflex but political advantage that causes the mullahs to blame the US for meddling. They need to create an external enemy to unite the people and defuse the uprising. If most Iranians perceive the opposition to be tools of the West, than support will wane. At least that’s the theory.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 5:38:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DB

“They want a new “election” with the same candidates...A point without a difference...”

That’s a point I don’t believe is accurate. Yes, they’re energized about Mousavi having been screwed, but I believe the bigger issue is they want the current, ayatollah-picks-the-winner system replaced.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 5:38:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: DB

What you are missing is that this thing can get out of control. In 1979 the mullahs hijacked the Iranian Revolution. Something similar could happen this time as you unleash the anti-government forces. No one knows where this will all lead. Plenty of unintended consequences possible.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 5:40:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: BunnySlippers

From what I have read in the past, the students there LOVE the USA (I don’t blame them)


30 posted on 06/18/2009 5:41:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unabel to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: bray
Iranians are looking at Iraq and Trashcanistan and saying why not us? This is the hunger for freedom and Democracy that everybody has. We however are moving towards tyranny.

Thats because Americans haven't experienced what those poor people have experienced. But we soon will.
31 posted on 06/18/2009 5:44:32 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Mr. K

“...From what I have read in the past, the students there LOVE the USA (I don’t blame them)...”

Yeah, and on top of that, they don’t want some idiot, like IMANUTJOB, doing something really stupid that would get their entire country nuked off the face of the map.... Can’t say as I blame em much.


32 posted on 06/18/2009 5:47:45 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Mr. K

Obama takes credit for election
Obama says no meddling
Obama supports students when they are winning
Obama encourages them like Kennedy did the Cubans
Obama sends no support
Students are crushed like Tienamin Square
Obama says he inherited this Iran from Bush


33 posted on 06/18/2009 5:47:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Scanian
* Ahmadinejad opponents cited proof of the rigged election, including figures that showed more than 30 Iranian towns cast more votes than they had registered voters.
One town, Taft, had a turnout of 141 percent, an opposition Web site said. Another town, Kouhrang, had 132 percent.
Government officials said there was a record 85 percent turnout nationally.

Wow, seems our boy Ahmadinejad has been reading the ACORN playbook...

The more obama grabs for power and shoves fascist big government into every facet of our lives...the more I'm starting to wonder how much the US in 2012 will look like Iran '09...

34 posted on 06/18/2009 5:49:16 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: kabar
It is not reflex but political advantage

You are correct. I didn't express myself well. The insular Iranian Mullahs will always blame the Great Satan whenever they are threatened - because it unifies their populace, because it hearkens back to the glory days of the Great Revolution against the Evil Shah AND because blaming America makes confused Democrats eager to help them.

35 posted on 06/18/2009 5:49:54 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Scanian

Islam doesn’t work, unless the goal is to annihilate mankind.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 5:56:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: Scanian

Please be calm so we can execute you more efficiently. Maybe those 17 virgins they’ve been promising will cause the Mullah’s own deaths. Some are willing to die for freedom while we give it up to O and the Dumbocrats.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 5:56:44 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy)
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To: DB

If the Iranian PEOPLE see that they can change Iran by direct action, changing the direction the Ayatollahs have been steering Iran, then the Ayatollahs have let the genie out of the bottle.


38 posted on 06/18/2009 5:56:44 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Scanian
US civil war:

Population- 31,000,000

War dead- 620,000

Iran:

Population 70,000,000..............
39 posted on 06/18/2009 5:58:03 AM PDT by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: tatsinfla

‘wonder when the u.s. will protest 500000 or more strong in the streets against our gov’t...’

We did with our polite ‘tea parties’ and they were derided and ignored by both the media and the POS we have in government. Perhaps something a little more in the style of the Iranians would work better.


40 posted on 06/18/2009 5:58:53 AM PDT by Leg Olam (TOP SECRET! Os plan, 1 invade Poland 2 annex Sudetenland...)
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To: Scanian

* Ahmadinejad opponents cited proof of the rigged election, including figures that showed more than 30 Iranian towns cast more votes than they had registered voters.

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Wow! A-jad must’ve called in ACORN for help.


41 posted on 06/18/2009 6:04:22 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Scanian

After eight years of Reagan, in the fall of 1989, the Soviet empire came down. After eight years of Bill Clinton, in September of 2001, the WTC was destroyed. Could the teetering and possible collapse of the Iranian Theocracy be Bush’s legacy? We’ll know in the Fall.


42 posted on 06/18/2009 6:05:47 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: Scanian

“One town, Taft, had a turnout of 141 percent, an opposition Web site said. Another town, Kouhrang, had 132 percent”

Did ACORN open up a branch in these towns ?


43 posted on 06/18/2009 6:05:53 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Bigg Red
Wow! A-jad must’ve called in ACORN for help.

In Iran it's AHCORN.

44 posted on 06/18/2009 6:07:24 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: tc45a

So far you are the only one I have seen that understands that there may more to this than meets the eye. I was thinking the same.


45 posted on 06/18/2009 6:14:29 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.")
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To: Scanian

The phone rang at 3AM- no one is willing to answer it yet.


46 posted on 06/18/2009 6:18:18 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: Scanian

This ends one of 2 ways depending on the attitude of the current govt.
1. The Chinese option. Take a hard line. Send in the tanks and kill enough demonstraters to get your point across. Effective but requires a brutal and ruthless govt willing to kill its own people to stay in power.

2. The Russian Option. Concede to some demands and hope to stay in power as long as possible. Requires a govt not willing to kill thousands to stay in control. Once the people see the govt will not kill them, they make more and more demands until they force the current leaders from power. Hopefully one day we can call this the “American Option”.


47 posted on 06/18/2009 6:22:49 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead

Good analysis, but you forgot the Rumanian Option, which is “brutally repress the people and still end up shot dead in a gutter”


48 posted on 06/18/2009 6:26:00 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: kabar

In 1979 the mullahs hijacked the Iranian Revolution.

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Different times. Different technologies. I am certainly no expert, but, based on what I have read, it seems that there is a huge segment of the population that is young, hip, pro-West, and itching to get out from the oppression of the ayatollahs. Plus they have technology that allows them to connect with the outside world, so that they know the truth about the Great Satan and not what they are told at the mosque.

My money is on the Persian spirit. Rise up, Persians! Be free!


49 posted on 06/18/2009 6:30:29 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: N. Theknow

In Iran it’s AHCORN.

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LOL!


50 posted on 06/18/2009 6:31:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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