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Breaking Our Terrible Addiction to TV
Straight Talk Newsletter ^ | June 18, 2009 | Chip Wood

Posted on 06/18/2009 10:49:38 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

One of the more thought-provoking columns I make sure I read every week is called Spiritual Wealth. It's written by my good friend Alex Green, who is Investment Director of the Oxford Club. Alex gave me permission to share one of his columns with you, with the request that I also tell you about his new book. I'm delighted to do both. See the end of today's column for details on how you can receive his column every week and learn about The Secret of Shelter Island, his inspiring and informative new book.

According to A.C. Nielson Co., the average American watches more than four hours of TV each day. That's two months of nonstop television per year.

In a 65-year life, that person will have spent nine years glued to the tube.

The same study found that the amount of time per week that parents spend in meaningful conversation with their children is 3.5 minutes. The average time children spend watching TV each week? 1,680 minutes.

Parents often wonder how they can better relate to their kids, how they can combat the coarsening effects of modern culture.

May I suggest the off button?

Surrounded by cable television, DVDs, CD players, cell phones, PDAs, iPods, satellite radio, video games, and the Internet, a young person might reasonably ask what adults did before the age of electronic media.

In truth, we spent more time visiting friends and neighbors, took long walks, learned musical instruments, gave dinner parties and dances, went fishing, played chess or checkers.

And we read.

We read to become informed. We read to be entertained. We read as a noble intellectual exercise.

And because reading is to the mind what exercise is to the body, we thought better, expressed ourselves more clearly, wrote with greater style and refinement.

This kind of literacy can turn everyday communication into a kind of poetry. (Compare the Lincoln/Douglas debates, for example, to the current quality of political discourse.)

We also engaged in the lost art of conversation. In language filled with wit and intelligence, we spent time talking about our interests, argued the pressing issues of the day, wondered aloud about great mysteries, told each other our dreams, and let those around us know how we felt about them.

As an example of both the higher sentiments and greater literacy of an earlier age, here is a letter from Sullivan Ballou, a 32-year-old soldier in the Union Army, to his 24-year-old wife:

July 14, 1861

Camp Clark, Washington

My very dear Sarah:

The indications are very strong that we shall move in a few days-perhaps tomorrow. Lest I should not be able to write again, I feel impelled to write a few lines that may fall under your eye when I shall be no more...

Sarah my love for you is deathless, it seems to bind me with mighty cables that nothing but Omnipotence could break; and yet my love of Country comes over me like a strong wind and bears me irresistibly on with all these chains to the battle field.

The memories of the blissful moments I have spent with you come creeping over me, and I feel most gratified to God and to you that I have enjoyed them for so long. And hard it is for me to give them up and burn to ashes the hopes of future years, when, God willing, we might still have lived and loved together, and seen our sons grown up to honorable manhood, around us. I have, I know, but few and small claims upon Divine Providence, but something whispers to me — perhaps it is the wafted prayer of my little Edgar, that I shall return to my loved ones unharmed. If I do not my dear Sarah, never forget how much I love you, and when my last breath escapes me on the battle field, it will whisper your name. Forgive my many faults and the many pains I have caused you. How thoughtless and foolish I have often times been! How gladly would I wash out with my tears every little spot upon your happiness...

But, O Sarah! If the dead can come back to this earth and flit unseen around those they loved, I shall always be near you; in the gladdest days and in the darkest nights... always, always, and if there be a soft breeze upon your cheek, it shall be my breath, as the cool air fans your throbbing temple, it shall be my spirit passing by. Sarah do not mourn me dead; think I am gone and wait for thee, for we shall meet again...

Ballou was killed in the first battle of Bull Run a week later.

Carpe Diem,

Alex Green

If you'd like to receive Alex Green's inspiring and thought-provoking column, Spiritual Wealth, in your in-box every week, sign up at www.spiritualwealth.com/about-us/. To learn more about Alex's powerful new book, The Secret of Shelter Island, just click here.

Chip Shots

* Please let us pay you back. So say 10 of the country's largest financial institutions, which very much want to return the $68 billion they received in TARP funds. Seems they are beginning to chaff a bit at all the "oversight" that came with taking all those taxpayer funds. Not everyone wants to see the money repaid, however. The New York Times says, "allowing bailout money to be repaid now is premature. Without reforms in place, the Obama Administration is weakening its hand in reining in the banks."

* A fitting memorial in D.C. I was touched by the ceremony in Washington last week, when Nancy Reagan unveiled a statue of her husband in the Capitol Rotunda. The last time Mrs. Reagan visited Washington was in 2004, for the memorial service for Ronald Reagan. With a tear in her eye this time, she said, "It's nice to be back under happier circumstances." She declared that the seven-foot statue, which contains pieces of the Berlin Wall, was a "wonderful likeness" of her late husband. I look forward to seeing it in person next time I'm in D.C.

* How do you say "Hummer" in Chinese? In one of the strangest deals in an era of very strange arrangements, an obscure Chinese industrial company has purchased the Hummer truck line from General Motors. In theory, the Hummer plant in Shreveport, Louisiana will continue to churn out those ego-stroking gas guzzlers for at least a year, while its Chinese owners try to develop manufacturing and distribution facilities on the mainland. Time will tell if the deal succeeds; I suspect it may not even close.

* How about some respect for our Holy Book? ABC News has confirmed that Bibles sent to U.S. troops in Afghanistan for distribution to locals there (the Bibles had been translated into the most popular Afghan languages) were confiscated and destroyed by military officials. The Pentagon justified the actions by saying the Bibles were a violation of military regulations prohibiting proselytizing and could have risked the lives of our servicemen by offending the Muslim majority. How is it that when a Koran is mishandled, there is rioting all over the world? But when Bibles are burned or otherwise destroyed, there is hardly a peep of protest?

This Week in History

The Continental Congress was struggling to find funds and provisions for Revolutionary forces when it decided to issue its own currency. On June 22, 1776, it issued $2 million in paper money. The currency featured the likeness of Revolutionary soldiers and carried the inscription, "The United Colonies."

The "Continentals," as the bills were known, were not backed by gold or any other assets. Merchants distrusted their value and demanded more and more of them for the same amount of goods. General George Washington complained that, "A wagonload of currency will hardly purchase a wagonload of provisions."

By the end of the war, the new currency was virtually worthless. The bills were ultimately redeemed by the new U.S. government at one/one hundredth of their face value. Because of this experience, the phrase "not worth a Continental" became a way to describe something that had no value.

The lesson also convinced our Founding Fathers to insist that any currency issued by the U.S. government be fully redeemable in gold or silver — a requirement that became part of our Constitution and was honored for the next 100 years. Today, of course, our currency is only backed by "the full faith and credit of the United States," which some cynics (this writer included) say explains why the value of the dollar continues to fall.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

Chip Wood

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; calea; journalism; propaganda; reading; thinking; tv
AMEN!! It's more that probable that the loss of critical thinking skills and the ability to clearly express thoughts and ideas is how we got the current crowd of elitist statists in Washington and many state capitols.
1 posted on 06/18/2009 10:49:38 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

“Breaking Our Terrible Addiction to TV”

I broke my addiction to TV (not that I had a big addiction anyway... LOL).

But, now, I’m trying to figure out how to break my addiction from Free Republic...., but do I really want to do that? :-)


2 posted on 06/18/2009 10:51:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Dick Bachert

We got rid of ours over a year ago,

Haven’t missed it once.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 10:53:32 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Dick Bachert

Unplug it. Cancel the service. Get Netflix.
I did 3 years ago. One of the best things I ever did.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 10:54:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Last I knew, [being born in 1957], televisions had an “off” button.


5 posted on 06/18/2009 10:54:21 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass resistance.)
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To: Dick Bachert

I’m having cable disconnected until January.

Gotta have NCAA Basketball, you know.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 10:55:01 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Dick Bachert

I read regularly and watch tv as well. The two pastimes are not mutually exclusive.


7 posted on 06/18/2009 10:55:38 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Dick Bachert

I stopped watching tv years ago, what complete garbage. Occasionally I see it when a friend has it on at their house and that just re-affirms that it is complete garbage. Especially the fellatojournalism that passes as news these days.....ugh! God help us.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 10:56:43 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Dick Bachert
I've been overseas for over five years and while we have satellite TV, I've just lost interest in it.

Except during football season - and then the dang games are on so late at night. ;-)

I don't believe I have ever seen any of the popular shows that have premiered since I've been away. And when I'm home on visits, there are always so many much better things to do than watch TV.

9 posted on 06/18/2009 10:58:10 AM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: Star Traveler
I broke my addiction to TV

Not that Hard these days with the Terrible Programming. Obama 24 hours a day on a News Channel - Give me a break. ABC White House Infomercial - Barf. American Idol - needs a Rod of Iron (to smash the Idols). Freinds - None of Mine. Cheers - A serious lack thereof.

Just bought "Love Boat - Season One" - Laughed my head off. Before that "Fantasy Island - Season One" - glued to the Screen. Where has good acting and writing gone?

10 posted on 06/18/2009 10:58:21 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Star Traveler

I have a hunch it’s the libs who watch too much tv. It’s probably why they have such a warped sense of reality.

The only tv I watch is the news. I don’t even have cable.
There are plenty of other things I’d rather be doing than watching the idiot box.....like spending time with my family!


11 posted on 06/18/2009 10:59:34 AM PDT by derllak
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To: Dick Bachert

My daughter and son in law have hooked up a parking meter to the TV and the kids have to pay to watch.
They are little so its one penny per minute.
The only exception is if mom and dad turn the TV on for them to watch.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 10:59:56 AM PDT by svcw (<b>O</b>)
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To: mysterio

I agree.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 11:00:41 AM PDT by svcw (<b>O</b>)
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To: Allegra

You know, I just a moment.

I’ve long thought that if the MA TV gambling game in bars, KENO, was available on cableTV, they could raise a ton of money.

My eureka moment......they should tax watching TV.....


14 posted on 06/18/2009 11:00:45 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: sr4402

I actually still watch “programs”, but not in the style of some (or a lot) of people and/or relatives I know.

Usually, the way to watch TV is to sit there and just stare at it, and whatever comes on and whatever channel you surf through. And after a few hours of that, you may get tired and quit or do something else.

As for me, I may be interested in a particular program (a series, let’s say) and I’ll basically not see it for several weeks or a month or more. And then, I’ll download a bunch of those programs, at one time, sit through them all at one or two “sittings” and then be done with it for another month or two... LOL...


15 posted on 06/18/2009 11:01:42 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: ex91B10

“Last I knew, [being born in 1957], televisions had an “off” button.”

And we needed the “off” allot less back then.

WHEN TV WAS COOL

http://www.billsretroworld.com/tv.htm


16 posted on 06/18/2009 11:02:29 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Star Traveler

If you consider that a DVD set of a particular series is probably $90 to $150,

and that cable is about $40 to $50 per month.

It’s cheaper to buy and resell the DVD set and watch them at your leisure without commercials.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 11:03:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: mysterio

Depends on the household. A lot of people crank their TV way up to super loud, which pretty much excludes all other activity including thinking. The rule in my household is the TV must be low enough to be able to be talked over at normal conversational levels, that way I can still read, we can have meaningful conversations, all that great multi-tasking type stuff.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 11:03:48 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: swarthyguy
My eureka moment......they should tax watching TV.....

The Brits already thought of that. ;-)

19 posted on 06/18/2009 11:05:19 AM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: Dick Bachert

By choice I don’t have a TV or computer in my home. After working all day with various technologies I like to go to 1946. I turn off the cell phone, crank up the victrola ( yes, I do have one) or turn on my big old Stromberg Carlson radio and concentrate on fixing a nice dinner. TV sucks.


20 posted on 06/18/2009 11:06:38 AM PDT by Leg Olam (TOP SECRET! Os plan, 1 invade Poland 2 annex Sudetenland...)
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To: sr4402
Why buy? With HULU and YouTube, et al, there is more than enough entertainment for free. I saw those and other oldies listed as available.

High speed access required, then surf, baby, surf!

Click here for

21 posted on 06/18/2009 11:07:53 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad. - Henry Kissinger)
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To: Lee Heggy123
By choice I don’t have a TV or computer in my home. After working all day with various technologies I like to go to 1946. I turn off the cell phone, crank up the victrola ( yes, I do have one) or turn on my big old Stromberg Carlson radio and concentrate on fixing a nice dinner.

Now, that's impressive. I'll bet your blood pressure and stress levels are in a very healthy range.

22 posted on 06/18/2009 11:09:12 AM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: Allegra

No, they’re amateurs. All they do is charge a yearly license fee for your TV(s).

This is more along the lines of the mileage fees for all miles driven as touted in MA and some other enlightened places.

Get the cable, dish guys to add a TV meter, or like Gore’s lowflow toilets, implement by EO or something and make a meter standard on all new TV’s.

Then you get a bill for hours and minutes watched, or least the time the TV is on.

Shouldn’t be that hard from an implementation angle.

PS: Another phenom Bette Davis Chick Flick, Jezebel, about a southern belle who leaves chaos in her wake. Vintage 1938!


23 posted on 06/18/2009 11:11:04 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Star Traveler

My addiction to TV was never that intense-—but I am addicted to the internet and talk radio.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 11:12:10 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (First Atlas Shrugged, now he's screaming his a$$ off.)
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To: svcw

Wow, that is great.

Can we call the IRS or the Bureau of Media and Propaganda and Truth or the WH to tell them an innovative new revenue tool is available.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 11:13:36 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Star Traveler

Everyone who voted for Reagan must immediately cancel all cable TV subscriptions and tell the cable company that they will not resubscribe until an “American Freedom” package is offered that DOES NOT INCLUDE ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, etc. Y0U ARE PAYING FOR THE ABOVE IF YOU DON’T.
If one is not willing to give up their leisure diversions on the cable in order to save the country, then it is indeed the end. Our children are doomed to be tax-slaves.

I cancelled mine right after the election and have not missed it.

DIRECT TV could make millions by offering such a subscriber package. Call it the Palin Plan or something.

FIRE LETTERMAN!!


26 posted on 06/18/2009 11:21:41 AM PDT by Huebolt
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To: MrB

You said — It’s cheaper to buy and resell the DVD set and watch them at your leisure without commercials.

I’ve used NetFlix before (for quite a while), don’t have it now, but will get it again later on. They have an *absolutely huge* library of DVDs, and you can have them mailed out to you, you watch them and mail them back.

http://www.netflix.com/

It’s quick and the turnaround is great. You can pick the “volume” that you like to watch in a month and the pricing varies on how much you want to have. I sure got a lot of stuff through them, that way. It was great and I got stuff that you would never find in the corner video store, because the corner video store could never keep that kind of inventory.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 11:21:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Huebolt

You said — Everyone who voted for Reagan must immediately cancel all cable TV subscriptions and tell the cable company that they will not resubscribe until an “American Freedom” package is offered that DOES NOT INCLUDE ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, etc. Y0U ARE PAYING FOR THE ABOVE IF YOU DON’T.

Well, you call and ask the government regulators to *require* that cable companies *must* give “a la carte” choice to consumers... LOL...


28 posted on 06/18/2009 11:24:41 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Dick Bachert
I canceled cable in Jan. they disconnected me on Super Bowl Sunday right before the game.
Never got the digital converter.
Watched 24 with rabbit ears until Tony turned bad guy.
Didn't watch again until Stanley Cup finals. The last game was on June 12. We watched the Penguins win the cup and the post game show until the little guy pressed the button and killed the signal.
Netflix and Redbox now.
We're surviving fabulously.
29 posted on 06/18/2009 11:37:02 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Dick Bachert
Dumped it 15 years ago. Use it for movie playback only, and the way Hollywood has been during the "withdrawl" period, precious little of that.

Unregulated Internet Forever!

30 posted on 06/18/2009 11:39:20 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Glenn
I hear ya. I watch about 8 channels total.. none of them network except for big sporting events.

I get most of my news items from links here at FR and Breitbart and Drudge. If it ain't on here I figure it's not all that earth shaking.

If it weren't for baseball and football and the occasional LIVE news event, I would have little need for the box at all.

Though Brett Baer's show on Fox has become a favorite.

31 posted on 06/18/2009 11:59:21 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Dick Bachert
Television accomplishes the following: #1 It keeps our minds off the hijacking of our country. #2 It keeps us out of the Bible, the only book God ever wrote to his creatures. #3 It tends to make us people who judge everything by the cover - the visual life is promoted. Shallow. #4 It feeds us what the world (in the negative sense) wants us to think about. #5 It is mind-numbing in its effect - just the opposite of reading. "Open your eyes and we'll pour it in. Where do you think all the numbed minds came from that voted for Obama? They were conditioned to respond to commercials without thinking. Remember all the minutes (not just commercials but media adoration) adding up to hours his face was on the screen last fall?

#6 Most of the actors are idealized physical specimens. They set a standard none of us can live up to. That's programming for failure. #7 The government wants as many people as possible to have televisions. They will even buy you a conversion box. Doesn't that make you wonder? #8 Everything is condensed on TV, leaving us with shortened attention span expectations and less patience. #9 Our time shared together consists of sitting side by side staring at a flickering screen. There's nothing there to provoke thought, so there's no human exchange. #10 TV keeps us up late, robbing us of sleep, wasting our time, and gives us nothing in exchange.

32 posted on 06/18/2009 12:42:02 PM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: Lee Heggy123

I like the way you think. My studio is nicknamed “the Fortress of Nostalgia”. Inside, it’s always 1945-1965 (except for the computer). I retreat to the Real America when the America of today gets to me.

Where on earth do you find parts for a tube radio?


33 posted on 06/18/2009 1:05:24 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Dick Bachert
I remember not having TV. At the time, it was quite common for older persons to warn the younger ones that "TV will rot your mind."

The past 50 years have confirmed that prediction.

34 posted on 06/18/2009 1:09:12 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Dick Bachert
the average American watches more than four hours of TV each day.

You Have Got To Be Kidding! So who's watching 8 hours a day to offset me? *\;-)

35 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: Star Traveler

LOL that’s right. The govt. is the LAST thing you want to involve. Finding a reason NOT to do something is too easy, one could find a good reason NOT to get up in the morning.

There is no good reason not to cancel cable TV. Keep internet if you must, as I have, but dump the package till FOX-ONLY is offered. If they don’t offer it, stay off.

You know the drive-bys will scream bloody murder if cable drops by even 5%. Think what a beautiful sound THAT would be!


36 posted on 07/01/2009 6:11:33 AM PDT by Huebolt
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To: RoadTest

Great post! It is so true. My 15 year-old is in “must have it on” phase and it’s time to do something.

A national strike that would dump cable subscriptions by even 5% would be a real coup, to use the jargon. (or is it coupe? I think that’s a car.)

The left media would scream, what a beautiful sound! (sigh)


37 posted on 07/01/2009 6:18:17 AM PDT by Huebolt
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To: Huebolt
A national strike that would dump cable subscriptions by even 5% would be a real coup, to use the jargon. (or is it coupe? I think that’s a car.)

Yeah. If subscriptions were to drop by 10%, then it would be a sedan.

38 posted on 07/01/2009 6:20:10 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: ctdonath2
Unplug it. Cancel the service. Get Netflix. I did 3 years ago. One of the best things I ever did.

Cheaper, too, and you control what you watch. This afternoon will be Bell, Book, and Candle.

39 posted on 07/01/2009 6:22:02 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

And I’m on the hairy edge of cancelling Netflix as well. We tend to sit on the movies for a while before watching them (often up to a month). With a RedBox ‘round the corner and the rate we watch movies, $1/disc/night is cheaper than $18/month/”unlimited x 3”.

Only reason I keep Netflix now is we’ve spent so much time putting 300+ movies in our queues that I hate to waste that effort.


40 posted on 07/01/2009 6:37:30 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ctdonath2

In my family it has been worth it, since we have a high turnover most weeks.


41 posted on 07/01/2009 6:41:00 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: ctdonath2
We love netflix because we can stream a lot of old movies and British tv.......other than that its on for nothing but background noise, except during Indy car and NFL
42 posted on 07/01/2009 6:45:36 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Dick Bachert

I don’t watch much TV unless it’s something on History or Discovery. I DVR Glenn Beck and watch it while I’m working out.

Sometimes I feel like a hermit when I hear people at work or my friends talk about a TV show and I don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

I remember I was looked at like I was a space alien when I didn’t know what Grey’s Anatomy was.

I watch almost no network TV at all. The only time I have ABC on is in the morning when I’m getting ready for work and hear it in the background and that’s because we only have 13 channels on my TV in the bedroom.


43 posted on 07/01/2009 6:53:33 AM PDT by JenB987
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To: RoadTest

Nice job. That’s a very solid list. A Keeper.


44 posted on 07/01/2009 7:02:45 AM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M. Thatcher)
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To: Dick Bachert

We lost TV...mostly...on June 12th. We do have a TV that has a built-in digital converter, but the only signal we get is TBN. You think I’m going to watch that?? We have Netflix as well.


45 posted on 07/01/2009 7:06:56 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: Ladysmith

Thank you for taking the trouble to tell me!


46 posted on 07/01/2009 1:13:07 PM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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