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A Tale of Two States: Texas Vs. California
Reason Foundation ^ | March 25, 2009 | Leonard Gilroy

Posted on 06/18/2009 11:11:13 AM PDT by floridavoter2

Having had the pleasure of living several years in Houston earlier this decade, I was constantly amazed at the many things that Texas gets right that other states routinely bungle (see here, for starters). Friends' eyes have been known to glaze over as I tell them that cities like Houston and Dallas are poised to be the powerhouse cities of the 21st century, and in tandem, that Texas is going to blow away most, if not all, other states in economic performance in the next few decades.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bluestates; redstates
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Interesting article...
1 posted on 06/18/2009 11:11:14 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: floridavoter2

It’s funny, whenever one gets the intellectual better of Minnesota liberals their only sneering rejoinder is: “Why don’t you just go live down in Texas?” As if that’s some kind of insult.


2 posted on 06/18/2009 11:15:33 AM PDT by MNSlim
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To: floridavoter2

To the point-

the late Ric Williamson summed it quite well in this 2007 Reason interview:

“We are a very low tax state, we’re a very low regulation state, and we have a very limited welfare system in our state. What that means is, individual entrepreneurs want to live in Texas because they don’t pay any income tax. Businesses want to locate in Texas because they’re not overly regulated. And people don’t come to Texas for welfare because none exists. So people who show up in Texas show up to work, generate wealth, and contribute to the overall economy.”


3 posted on 06/18/2009 11:16:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: floridavoter2

That is of course if we can keep the !@#$ing liberals in Austin from screwing it all up.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 11:16:54 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: floridavoter2

As a Native Texan going back at least four generations, I can tell you this article is bogus. Don’t believe it. Don’t even bother to check it out. You won’t like it here at all. Just stay in your own state. Please.


5 posted on 06/18/2009 11:20:06 AM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: floridavoter2

I live in MA and travel to Texas and California many times a year. The only criteria that CA is better in is natural beauty, it is a stunningly gorgeous landscape. In every other measure Texas is way better. When I land in Houston my faith in America is reinvigorated and there is evidence of dynamism and growth all around. I did the math and I would be 300% better off living in Tx, now if I can only find someone to buy my overpriced home in MA.............


6 posted on 06/18/2009 11:20:51 AM PDT by Maneesh
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To: floridavoter2

Nope, nope, nope.

Here is Texas we have roaches the size of Rottweilers and they fly.

Californians should stay far, far away.


7 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:06 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: San Jacinto

Haha


8 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:16 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: San Jacinto
I can tell you this article is bogus. Don’t believe it. Don’t even bother to check it out. You won’t like it here at all. Just stay in your own state. Please.

I agree.

Not to mention it's bloody hot.

Folks wouldn't like it.

Best they stay where they are.

Really.

9 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:44 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Snickering Hound; Maneesh; tx_eggman

Not so fast, pardners. I’d trade a registered Freeper from any state over any politican in Austin. In a one-fer-one swap, of course.


10 posted on 06/18/2009 11:25:32 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: humblegunner

Skeeters, chiggers.... ugh!


11 posted on 06/18/2009 11:25:44 AM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: floridavoter2

I live in one of the worst, bluest, most socialistic states in the Union (CA). There are many things I have always liked about Texas:

(1) It is a red state-CA is a very left leaning blue state.
(2) Texas has no state income tax-CA has the nation’s highest state income tax rates.
(3) In Texas you can drill for oil—In CA you cannot.
(4) Texas is very entreprenerial and pro free enterprise—In CA there is a very pro-union and very hostile business environment.

The one negative thing I have heard about Texas is very high property taxes. Even higher than in CA.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 11:26:33 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: humblegunner

Hot, humid, makeup drips down your face, bugs, poisonous snakes a go-go, cockroaches big as your fist, tornado’s, floods, droughts, high property taxes, illegals building your homes and leaving behind little “presents”. Yep. Don’t move there.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 11:27:07 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: floridavoter2

Houston has a very bad fishwrap paper, the Houston Chronicle. You have to go look at some of the lib bloggers on there ASAP. Namely, eljefebob and desperado. They plug away daily and spew leftist talking points unfettered and they censor all the time.

Eljefebob is a guy named Bob Cavnar, a democrat fundraiser. He is a dandy. Desperado appears as a redneck liberal if that can happen.


14 posted on 06/18/2009 11:28:48 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: humblegunner
Here's one Californian you won't have to worry about - used to travel to Irving on business... 105 degrees at 50% humidity do not agree with me.

Besides, with Obama and the democrats running the entire country we all get to enjoy marxist lunacy while I get the same ol' great weather.

15 posted on 06/18/2009 11:29:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: humblegunner

Yeah, fourth generation here too and we have hurricanes that will blow you to bits; rattlesnakes all over and quick sand. Lots of chiggars where you itch all summer.


16 posted on 06/18/2009 11:29:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: San Jacinto

That’s right. They won’t like it here. We still carry guns and have this funny thing called a “Make my day” law.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 11:30:57 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Yep, the high property taxes take care of any state income tax. Wait until you see all the copperheads.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 11:31:19 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Having visited Houston, there are apparently no zoning or signage regulations in that part of the state. It was an eyesore.


19 posted on 06/18/2009 11:31:53 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: MNSlim

Hey now, I’m a Minnesota Conservative with Family in Texas ;)


20 posted on 06/18/2009 11:32:04 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Snickering Hound

>> Here is Texas we have roaches the size of Rottweilers and they fly. Californians should stay far, far away.

Yankee liberals will be miserable down here too. It’s hot. H. O. T. And the humidity makes it utterly miserable every single month but April and part of October. And that’s when the mosquitoes come out.

And snakes. Did I mention the snakes?

Oh, and don’t forget the scorpions. They’re everywhere. They particularly like to hide in the blankets and sheets on your bed, and there’s no pesticide that’s worth a darn in fighting them. You just have to get used to the golf-ball sized pus-filled welts.

Speaking of golf-ball sized, let’s take a moment to discuss the hail...


21 posted on 06/18/2009 11:32:47 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

They shut the wells in Texas too just like they do all over the country. And we are right next to border with the drug wars and no protection.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 11:33:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: humblegunner

Except during the winter, when its really, really cold, and the winds blow across the rolling hills like icy hurricanes (courtesy of my visits to San Antonio).


23 posted on 06/18/2009 11:33:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I want to move to Texas before I need a visa to come in. I feel right at home in Texas and am confident that I would pass the conservative “Texas-qualified” litmus test. Connect me with some libs in Texas and I will convince them to move to Kennedy and Deval land. That will a win-win..MA is a lost cause and some more libs won’ hurt..Texas was scarily close in 2008 and we need to keep it red.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 11:33:40 AM PDT by Maneesh
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To: MNSlim

“...whenever one gets the intellectual better of Minnesota liberals”.

I can do that just be sneezing out loud.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 11:34:02 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: San Jacinto

I tell transplants all the time they won’t like the nests of flying scorpions we have, and bite-back rattlesnakes (with the heads on each end), hoping they will come to their senses and stay away.


26 posted on 06/18/2009 11:34:08 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: floridavoter2

Stay away from Texas!

Feral hogs a ‘very bad problem’

There’s a joke about feral hogs in the Rio Grande Valley.

If a sow has a litter of six, eight will survive.

Epimeno Atkinson doesn’t think it’s that funny.

The hogs are a constant irritation for Atkinson, who has a 1,500-acre cattle ranch east of Rio Hondo, and other Valley farmers.
Two million feral hogs, half the number that live in the entire United States, are found in Texas, according to Texas Cooperative Extension estimates.
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/hogs-27690-feral-texas.html

;o)


27 posted on 06/18/2009 11:34:24 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Texas Fossil

Perfect.

Now, the only problem that exists is that a power structure remains such that liberal busybodies may attempt to get elected and undo all of that.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 11:34:49 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Nervous Tick

Down here in Houston, we have alligators in all the swimming holes as well as the lakes on the golf courses. You never know when you will meet one. Have a lot of coyotes that government protects too and they can live right next to your house.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 11:35:17 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Maneesh

Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled conservative patriots!


30 posted on 06/18/2009 11:35:24 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: San Jacinto

Plenty of us with plenty of “freedom tools” that you might need in the near future...

don’t be excluding legitimate folks that want to live just like you do.


31 posted on 06/18/2009 11:36:00 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: skeeter

There is just one difference between what is currently happening in Sacramento and what is happening in Washington: In Sacramento they are spending billions of dollars we don’t have. In Washington they are spending trillions of dollars we don’t have.

The liberals now have carte blanche to destroy America much as they ruined California.

We are ALL in the same boat now.


32 posted on 06/18/2009 11:36:21 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: freekitty

Oh yeah, black widow spiders reign.


33 posted on 06/18/2009 11:36:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Nervous Tick

None of these threats are going to keep me away. I have been to Texas about 50 times in the last 4 yrs and know that it is the land of milk and honey. I will take the snakes and the hurricances because it comes with freedom and responsibility. Here in MA there are zip codes where you can’t even have a BBQ because some neighbors whined and they start teaching about gay sex at 4 yrs old and the sales tax is going up to 6.25% and the gas tax and tolls are about to go up and there are only 8% elected Republicans in the state legislature.......do you people feel pity for me yet ?


34 posted on 06/18/2009 11:37:57 AM PDT by Maneesh
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To: Nervous Tick; Welcome2thejungle; Snickering Hound; San Jacinto; humblegunner

Y’all done fergot to mention the fahr aintz. We got tons of fahr aintz.


35 posted on 06/18/2009 11:38:53 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: freekitty

>> Have a lot of coyotes that government protects too and they can live right next to your house.

Yep, us too, that’s why even the house cats around here have to be so mean. Reach down to pet one and she’s liable to bite and claw all the skin clean off your hand. And that’s just the smaller females like mine... a big Tom’ll likely take your arm off at the elbow.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 11:39:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Yep. Anyone who believes we don’t need to “hang together” in the sense intended by Ben Franklin is whistling past the graveyard.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 11:39:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Maneesh

You must take at least 2 firearms with you and 500 rds of ammo for each in order to be allowed entry... :)


38 posted on 06/18/2009 11:39:28 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Maneesh

>> I will take the snakes and the hurricances because it comes with freedom and responsibility.

Well, OK, but do yourself a favor and buy your return ticket... before you spend all your money on calamine lotion, sunburn ointment, and benadryl for those nasty infections... and getting your roof replaced after every thunderstorm...


39 posted on 06/18/2009 11:41:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Sarajevo

That reminds me of a Christmas joke: why did the 3 wise men smell like smoke?


40 posted on 06/18/2009 11:42:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I can attest to that. Nothing like a tom ripping your arm off.


41 posted on 06/18/2009 11:43:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Nervous Tick

They came from “afahr”.


42 posted on 06/18/2009 11:43:42 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Nervous Tick

And make sure you can pay the high premiums for auto insurance. When the illegals run into you they DO NOT have any insurance and never show up to court. Where we lived the cops never even bothered ticketing them. There was no point.


43 posted on 06/18/2009 11:44:24 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: floridavoter2

Bump


44 posted on 06/18/2009 11:44:28 AM PDT by DFG
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To: freekitty

>> Nothing like a tom ripping your arm off.

The only good news is, it can only happen to you twice in your whole life...


45 posted on 06/18/2009 11:44:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: MrB

I did go to a shooting range the last time I was in Houston and am all ready to procure said hardware, have been a long time NRA member.


46 posted on 06/18/2009 11:45:22 AM PDT by Maneesh
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To: freekitty

I would put up with the gators, snakes, feral pigs, scorpions, and oversized mosquitoes and roaches to live in a pro-capitalist state like Texas.

You want to talk about ornery critters: Look at California’s elected officials.


47 posted on 06/18/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: freekitty
Have a lot of coyotes that government protects too and they can live right next to your house.

P'shah. Call me when you see a Grizzly Bear in your back yard.

48 posted on 06/18/2009 11:45:49 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: floridavoter2
Having had the pleasure of living several years in Houston

If he thinks living in Houston is a pleasure, I am suspect of any other opinions he may have.....

49 posted on 06/18/2009 11:46:32 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Bush was the dumbest sounding smart President, and Obama is the smartest sounding dumb President.)
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To: freekitty

Don’t let your cats outside. Not very many cats survived in our neighborhood.


50 posted on 06/18/2009 11:46:34 AM PDT by bonfire
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