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Robert Fisk: Secret letter 'proves Mousavi won poll' -The Independent http://bit.ly/t5wJq
Twitter Message ^ | Thursday, 18 June 200 | .....

Posted on 06/18/2009 1:21:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

RT @AbahJake: - Robert Fisk: Secret letter 'proves Mousavi won poll' -The Independent http://bit.ly/t5wJq #iranelection (via @DougCurran )

Other messages say heavy clashes are under way in locations away from Tehran...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fisk; iran; iranviolence2009; letters; mousavi
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Robert Fisk: Secret letter 'proves Mousavi won poll'

1 posted on 06/18/2009 1:21:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Too bad it’s Fisk saying it. Not a word that idiot writes can be trusted.


2 posted on 06/18/2009 1:22:15 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: All
reports of heavy clashes in cities of #Isfahan & #Tabriz

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rt @iranbaan reports of heavy clashes in cities of #Isfahan & #Tabriz - #IranElection

half a minute ago from web

Winston

3 posted on 06/18/2009 1:23:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This whole Iran thing is a joke. Who cares who won or lost? The clerics will still be in charge. Ill be glad when this non story fades to the background?


4 posted on 06/18/2009 1:24:58 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess the s#!t has hit isfahan................


5 posted on 06/18/2009 1:25:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (Inquiring minds want to know, but American Idol minds could care less...)
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To: Lurker
Well how about this then:

Tahzadeh and Ramazenzadeh (fromer Government Spokesperson) are being torchured in Evin prison

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Tahzadeh and Ramazenzadeh (fromer Government Spokesperson) are being torchured in Evin prison #IranElection

11 minutes ago from web

Unicorn

6 posted on 06/18/2009 1:27:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Red Badger
Just found this:

More on Attac(k) on Mosavi's office

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More on Attach on Mosavi's office #iranelection #gr88 http://bit.ly/R0o5G /6/1WMcoqTSor8

17 minutes ago from web

one handyman

7 posted on 06/18/2009 1:30:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: DogBarkTree

== Ill be glad when this non story fades to the background? ==

The Iranian people aren’t really protesting the vote.

The theft of the election by the ruling mullahs was only the straw that broke the camel’s back for the Iranian people, and it’s what caused them to finally stand up to demand a major change in their government.

That’s why they’re protesting in the millions. They want the mullahs out.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 1:30:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It’s only a matter of time before the mullahs do a Tienanmen Square on the protesters. Once they kill 10 or 20 thousand of them like the Chinese did the people will fall back into place.


9 posted on 06/18/2009 1:34:48 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Lurker

Fisk seems to have missed the news that the author of that letter was just recently killed in a “car accident”.

Hahaha, try reading some of his readers comments,
my blood boiled after the first one, But then they ARE
Fisk’s readers.


10 posted on 06/18/2009 1:35:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Lurker

I concur...Fisk is documented lying Leftist scum.


11 posted on 06/18/2009 1:36:24 PM PDT by DGHoodini (The New York Times, are lying 'Rats!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is an unconfirmed report that the protest today was not just a couple hundred thousand, but over a million Iranians strong. Not just students, but middle aged, families, old, rich, poor, city fols, country folks, reformers and mullahs. There have even been 3 major Ayatollahs that have spoken out against not only the rigged vote, but the whole ligitimacy of the Iranian governmenrt as it is now.

And the protests on Satuday are expected to be even bigger, and held in many more cities as well.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 1:42:34 PM PDT by DGHoodini (The New York Times, are lying 'Rats!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Debka is now on Twitter?


13 posted on 06/18/2009 1:43:07 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: All
Regarding link at post #7....seems to be a series of video clips...been thru half a dozen still listening...thought they said there was an attack...yet to see a clip showing what I recognize as an attack....
14 posted on 06/18/2009 1:43:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
New message....not sure what is at links:

Tehran 2day:

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RT @TwitPersia: Tehran 2day: http://is.gd/15swu http://is.gd/15sx9 Mousavi n black: http://is.gd/15svp http://is.gd/15stW #IranElection

15 posted on 06/18/2009 1:56:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Al


16 posted on 06/18/2009 1:59:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; SolidWood; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat; Man50D; SunkenCiv; ...

more tweet messages.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 2:01:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Windflier
My biggest question on that score is WHY THE H### DID THEY WAIT UNTIL ZERO WAS IN OFFICE?!?!!!! He'll side with the mullahs, overtly or covertly. GW would have sided with the people. We actually had assets on the ground according to some stories I've read, the key word being HAD!
18 posted on 06/18/2009 2:03:23 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: DGHoodini

The Mullahs might be getting concerned.


19 posted on 06/18/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just heard that the Saturday protest will be lead by a group of prominent reformist mullahs.


20 posted on 06/18/2009 2:07:10 PM PDT by DGHoodini (The New York Times, are lying 'Rats!)
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To: DogBarkTree
It's not actually a joke. Many citizens of Iran have been outright butchered. The mullahs are in danger of losing their power. In fact the lesser of the two evils, Mousavi, wants to eliminate the Basij, which is a good thing.

At any rate, it is never a joke when people who go onto the streets, no matter what country, and peacefully demonstrate their dissatisfaction with an election that they are gunned down, beaten to death and stabbed to death.

21 posted on 06/18/2009 2:14:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: All
Access to The Twitter news:

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http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection

22 posted on 06/18/2009 2:21:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
More:

Keep those #Iran proxies up and running!

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Keep those #Iran proxies up and running! All the info you need at http://is.gd/15Chc #iranelection

2 minutes ago from Tweetie


23 posted on 06/18/2009 2:25:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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I just want to make a quick post about best practices when running a proxy to help those on the ground in Iran get access to social networks, the outside world, and their families. It is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that this be a secure effort that is thought out and executed in the safest possible manner.

As a general rule, and I know I didn’t point this out in the original guides, all proxies should be setup with the following options in the Squid config file:

* Blocking of IRI government ipblocks [1]
* Allowing of Iran ipblocks [2]
* 10 random chosen inbound ports
* CONNECT support
* No X-Forwarded-For headers
* No client stats
* Logging to /dev/null
* Turn SSL off — it’s blocked from Iran anyway

If you’re running a proxy already, please change these settings. If you’re running a proxy on a default port (81/8080/8181/9090/3218) then change the port and shoot me off an e-mail at update@austinheap.com.

I will post a sample configuration file, as I know there have been a lot of concerns.

Also, I want to say sorry for not being able to respond to all the tweets and e-mails yet, although I’m going as fast as possible given all the other pressing demands! I’ve got thousands of emails to sort out, and the outpour of support and people helping out has been amazing. Together we’re capable of doing amazing things so thank you to everyone who is helping make a difference.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

#allmylove2iran

[1] Based on ripe data found on RIPE

[2] Based on Country IP data found on CountryIPBlocks

24 posted on 06/18/2009 2:27:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Windflier

HA! don’t you just love an optimist like Dogbarktree?

Yeesh...how does he think a change occurrs...Oh, I know...the Mullahs tyrannically control a country for decades and one morning .....POOF !..the regime has become a secular democracy.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 2:28:40 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's tough to be on the same side as this nut job
26 posted on 06/18/2009 2:30:02 PM PDT by philo
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To: Windflier

“That’s why they’re protesting in the millions. They want the mullahs out.”

That is how I am reading it. I don’t think they liked either choice for president, they want to return to their Persian roots. I met several Iranians in 1979 after their families sent them to the US when all hell broke loose and the mullahs took over. They want their country back!

I can relate to them very well at this time in history.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 2:54:00 PM PDT by mickey finn
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To: mickey finn

It comes as no surprise to me that the Mullahs have been forced to recruit fanatic goons from other Arab nations to try and keep the lid on dissent in their own country.

An alienated and alien shock force, totally dependent on the goodwill of their sponsors and secretly or openly despising the native population of the country can be counted on to use maximum force in their sponsors interests — because they know full well they will be the first exterminated if those sponsors do lose power.

I have been watching for any indication of which way the regular armed forces of Iran are going to jump. They have never been trusted by the Mullahs who choose to rely on the Revolutionary Guards for security.

Anyone seen any indicators?


28 posted on 06/18/2009 3:05:00 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: DogBarkTree
It’s only a matter of time before the mullahs do a Tienanmen Square on the protesters.

Some protesters have already been killed by government police squads. I read somewhere today that the military machine is mobilizing/gearing up to force the protesters to stand down.

If the mullahs do this, they still lose, as they will have proven that they're running an iron-fisted dictatorship, without question.

From that point forward, they will have zero legitimacy in the eyes of the people, and things will go downhill from there.

As if they weren't bad enough already.

29 posted on 06/18/2009 3:27:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump!


30 posted on 06/18/2009 3:28:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: calex59
"At any rate, it is never a joke when people who go onto the streets, no matter what country, and peacefully demonstrate their dissatisfaction with an election that they are gunned down, beaten to death and stabbed to death."

Remember that our DOD considers them to be "low level terrorists" for protesting.

31 posted on 06/18/2009 3:31:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The people of Iran are most definitely expressing their desire for regime change. It’s what people do when they just can’t take another injury from their government.

Nothing will change there (or here) without an overwhelming show of resistance from the people.

The Founders were absolutely correct, that all power rests with The People, whether codified into that country’s constitution, or not.


32 posted on 06/18/2009 3:32:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Torchured = Tortured?


33 posted on 06/18/2009 3:33:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach



Musavi: "Move over, Obama. You may walk on water, but I walk on crowds"
34 posted on 06/18/2009 3:33:33 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: piytar
WHY THE H### DID THEY WAIT UNTIL ZERO WAS IN OFFICE?

Remember that the Iranian people live under a tyrannical government. They don't have the same rights codified into their country's constitution as we do.

It took a very long train of usurpations, abuses, and offenses against them to bring them to the point of mass protests against their government.

Sadly, as far as US support for their cause is concerned, the timing couldn't have been worse for them.

35 posted on 06/18/2009 3:37:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The first photo looks like 50 or 60 thousand in view by proportional count, and with the bad angle, it could be double that.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 3:38:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Lurker

Yeah, now I have to figure Ahmanutjob won.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 3:39:03 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: editor-surveyor

I post them as they come up....folks don’t always have editors and spell checkers.


38 posted on 06/18/2009 3:43:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: G8 Diplomat

LOL!


39 posted on 06/18/2009 3:43:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: G8 Diplomat
More:

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Mousavi &Karoubi ask supporters NOT to attend Friday prayers

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RT: Mousavi &Karoubi ask supporters NOT to attend Friday prayers (being delivered by supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei) #IranElection

1 minute ago from web

Aimee Lanning

40 posted on 06/18/2009 3:47:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: G8 Diplomat
On the 6 ET Foxnews it was said that the times of London is saying that Khamenei has told Mousavi that he should be at the Friday prayer with him to show unity...otherwise....

Will go looking for the report...

41 posted on 06/18/2009 3:51:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow...very interesting


42 posted on 06/18/2009 3:54:05 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Posted it:

Khamenei tells Mousavi to toe the line over election or be cast out

43 posted on 06/18/2009 3:57:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; SolidWood; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat; ...
latest tweets from PersianKiwi in Tehran:

unconfirmed reliable source - several commanders of Revolutionary Guard Force arrested today - #Iranelection

We have unconfirmed reports that there is dissent among commanders of the Revolutionary Guard Force - #Iranelection

MOUSAVI HAS ASK THE WORLD TO PARTICIPATE IN SEA OF GREEN IN ALL CAPITAL CITIES THIS SUNDAY - #Iranelection - confirmed

44 posted on 06/18/2009 4:04:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
On the 6 ET Foxnews it was said that the times of London is saying that Khamenei has told Mousavi that he should be at the Friday prayer with him to show unity...otherwise....

From what I'm seeing, it looks like demonstrators will instead go to some other location. Looks like Khamenei wants to cool this down and Mousavi realizes that he's in the position of the man holding the tiger's ears -- whatever you do, don't let go.

If this quiets down, the rebel leadership will be quietly "disappeared" at leisure.

45 posted on 06/18/2009 4:10:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625
unconfirmed reliable source - several commanders of Revolutionary Guard Force arrested today - #Iranelection

Twitter report

Sep_normal GreenVote_Iran: Rt # Khamenei told Rev Guard to take over from security forces next week and crack down, but some commanders said no.
46 posted on 06/18/2009 4:11:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Twitter report

CONFIRMED: Several generals in Army that have promised to back Rafsanjanji
47 posted on 06/18/2009 4:12:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Youtube of clash with students on 14 June
48 posted on 06/18/2009 4:12:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Twitter report

BreakingNews:Mousavi&Karoubi ask supporters NOT 2 attend Friday prayers (s:Mousavi FB Group)
49 posted on 06/18/2009 4:13:02 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Twitter report

RT confirmed - the wife of Saeed Rajaie, a prominent Iranian wartime martyr, has been arrested while praying in Qom
50 posted on 06/18/2009 4:13:50 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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