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MOUSAVI APPEALS TO THE WORLD TO PARTICIPATE IN 'SEA OF GREEN' IN IN ALL CAPITAL CITIES THIS SUNDAY
Live Tweeting the Revolution-Atlantic Magazine ^ | 18 Jun 2009 04:17 pm | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/18/2009 2:29:58 PM PDT by lewisglad

MOUSAVI APPEALS TO THE WORLD TO PARTICIPATE IN SEA OF GREEN IN IN ALL CAPITAL CITIES THIS SUNDAY

Tehran is alive with the sound of people on their balcony shouting Hearing MUCH much stronger than any other day... Waiting for tomorrow!

Strange.. this night the power of Down With Dictator and Mousavi is at least tripled!

It is Down with Dictator time. U dont need a clock to tell it,a window to a street and an ear will do.

confirmed: Mousavi asked his supporters don't go to Friday prayer, next scheduling is Saturday in Enqlab sq @ 4 pm

BBC Caller:I voted 4 Ahmadinejad,wanna know why they kill innocent kids?my vote become a bullet&I'm responsible 4 the blood.

Hospital source - increase in admission of people injured and beaten by Baseej - all Tehran hospitals in high alert

Hospital source - 12 killed and 29 injured on Monday in Azadi Sq

Ignore rumors that Khamenei is not attending Friday prayer. He is: http://bit.ly/49uG6Y protestors to attend wearing black.

Facebook these days is acting as the mosques during the Islamic revolution!

Big traffic jam in Modarres highway and most of the cars are showing V sign from the windows(not the OS!viva Linux!)

eyewitness:"each time I decide to go I think maybe this time there aren't that much people...but each time there is even more!"

Police presence was EXTREMELY high in today's Toopkhune rally. Witnesses reporting uncountable number of gaurds

People carrying pictures of the martyrs of recent days in the rally today.

Imam Khomeini Sq. was great ... slow start but when things got on their way, there was no stopping the Green Wave!! Mousavi showed up too!!

According to contacts, today's demonstration was amazing. Basij and Ansar now fear massive retaliation by the public.

(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; mousavi; studentmovement
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1 posted on 06/18/2009 2:29:59 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Let me be the first to say NO. I don’t follow would be Islamic apologist. I want to be clear, freedom is good, protest for freedom is great but Mousavi is not denouncing the ideology and only wants power. Again I say, NO


2 posted on 06/18/2009 2:32:58 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: lewisglad

Think I’ll get some green out.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 2:32:58 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: lewisglad

It’s a nice gesture, but keep in mind Mousavi’s green is the color of Islam.
And Mousavi is still Ahmadinejad-lite.

Hopefully, though, the revolution in Iran will see the complete downfall of the Theocracy, and the birth of true secular democracy there.
That would be useful.
Simply replacing Ahmadinejad with Mousavi and keeping the Ayatollahs and the “Supreme Leader” would not be.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 2:33:33 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Republic
Austin, Texas this afternoon...


5 posted on 06/18/2009 2:35:16 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
Ah yes! Let's have a sea of pro- pan-arab green in DC?!!?!

It is believed that each color of the 4 Pan-Arab Colors represent a certain Arab Dynasty or era: the Black was the color of the flag of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, while white was taken by the Umayyads to be their Symbol, as a reminder of the Battle of Badr, Green was taken by the Fatimids to symbolize their support to Ali Bin Abi Talib, while red was the flag held by the Khawarij, and then became the symbol of rulers in North Africa and Al-Andalus.

No thanks.

6 posted on 06/18/2009 2:37:52 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: counterpunch
Hopefully, though, the revolution in Iran will see the complete downfall of the Theocracy, and the birth of true secular democracy there.

Yes, that's the point, and why the Supreme Leader is having his personal militia shoot protesters dead in the street.

7 posted on 06/18/2009 2:38:03 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: lewisglad

“We are Human not Hooligan” would be a good tagline.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 2:38:44 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: counterpunch; wiseprince
from the protestors on Twitter: "I want more than just a new president, I want an end to this brutal regime!"


9 posted on 06/18/2009 2:38:45 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
No thanks buddy, we're working on our own revolution over here.
10 posted on 06/18/2009 2:40:25 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: lewisglad

I support the Iranians and wear an Iran flag ping (old flag, with lion). I do not support the person of Musavi. He is IMO just the vehicle to break up the system.


11 posted on 06/18/2009 2:40:30 PM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: lewisglad
Obama has no comment. Wouldn't want to meddle you know.
12 posted on 06/18/2009 2:40:44 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: lewisglad

Do we know whether this violent protest is really pro-Mousavi or simply anti-theocratic regime or even just anti-corruption?

It’s not clear to me that we should color ourselves green until we know this.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 2:41:37 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: lewisglad

I’m unable to take one twitter statement and extrapolate that all these people want the same. It seems to me that they have been asking for their vote to count (within the system). Personally, I put little to no credit in “twitter” reports. It can just as easily be propaganda.


14 posted on 06/18/2009 2:43:09 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: lewisglad

Mousavi sails into sun, searchung for sea of green...

15 posted on 06/18/2009 2:44:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: paulycy

Well, at this point it’s pretty clear that this goes beyond who becomes the President of Iran. If the regime fails to contain this uprising, they are toast. Sadly, they probably won’t fail. But we should all hope and work for that the protestors succeed.


16 posted on 06/18/2009 2:44:26 PM PDT by oscars300
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To: Buck W.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 2:45:38 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: wiseprince
Well the alternative might not be much better in the short term but just the fact that we are having this revolution bodes well for the long term. Because if it can happen once, it can happen again.

Since the Tianaemen Square crackdown in 1989, the Chinese people never got a chance to try it again. Hopefully that situation does not repeat in Iran. Basically it's now or never for the Iranian people.

18 posted on 06/18/2009 2:47:01 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: lewisglad
"Austin, Texas this afternoon..."

As a Texan and an American, I find those Austin liberals supporting democracy for Iran offensive! Where were they for the past 6 years of the Iraq War?

I can't stand liberals.

19 posted on 06/18/2009 2:47:27 PM PDT by avacado
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To: oscars300
But we should all hope and work for that the protestors succeed.

Yes, and I do. It's gonna take awhile before we know what the true motivations of this protest are. I just hope that, if the fatalities mount up, it's not the current regime that triumphs. (Yes, I know the odds of that, too.)

20 posted on 06/18/2009 2:49:31 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: ScreamingFist

If the Ayatollahs are smart, they will ultimately move to protect their own existence by calling for a new election and installing Mousavi. That would end the uprising and they would cling to their power.

It looks like they’ve realized that their initial violent reaction was only strengthening the revolution, and it looks like they may — may — have stepped back. But Mousavi is apparently directly challenging the authority of the “Supreme Leader” now. If the Ayatollahs continue to resist the revolution, then they will be swept away. And it may — again, may — be too late for them to strike a bargain with Mousavi to give up some of their control in order to retain power, diminished as it may be.


21 posted on 06/18/2009 2:51:16 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: SolidWood

Ditto.

My support if for Persia with an Ataturk at the helm, and the Islamofascist clerics at the business end of a noose.

Hopefully the people realize that this guy isn’t all he’s cracked up to be.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 2:52:26 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Enemy of the state since 1978!)
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To: SamAdams76
The Iranians need their own 'Goddess of Democracy'!


23 posted on 06/18/2009 2:52:29 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
These are Iran's version of America's civil rights protests of the 1960’s.

Many of those civil rights protesters in the 1960’s put Obammie in office.

Where are they now?
Where is he now?

Oh, that's right, it was only an anti-establishment movement, topple those in power and replace them with leftists...who are the enemy of civil rights.

24 posted on 06/18/2009 2:52:35 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: counterpunch

Good post....


25 posted on 06/18/2009 2:52:44 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: lewisglad

Whatever happens THE ONE will claim it is all good and he is responsible for it.


26 posted on 06/18/2009 2:54:10 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://web.me.com/pac8185/Site_2/Podcast/Podcast.html)
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To: lewisglad

A Statue of Liberty.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 2:55:27 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: lewisglad

What the US and NATO need to do is to tell the Islamic Republican Guards to either stay out of this or face military action against the IRCG and other regime targets. Any mass action against protesters will be met with a swift response.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 2:55:51 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lewisglad

Oust the mullahs. Oust Islam. Then you can have real change.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 2:56:32 PM PDT by BigFinn (Guilt by Obamassociation.)
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To: lewisglad

Oust the mullahs. Oust Islam. Then you can have real change.


30 posted on 06/18/2009 2:56:32 PM PDT by BigFinn (Guilt by Obamassociation.)
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To: BigFinn

bttt


31 posted on 06/18/2009 2:57:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Thunder90

Usama Bin Laden

Don’t support a would be tyrant (Mousavi)


32 posted on 06/18/2009 2:58:44 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Thunder90

Now would be a really good time for Israel to consider an attack...


33 posted on 06/18/2009 2:58:56 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

34 posted on 06/18/2009 2:59:51 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: counterpunch
works for me, since the Chinese example was brought up I used theirs..


35 posted on 06/18/2009 3:00:01 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Yes, the Chinese protesters based it on our own Statue of Liberty.
Not bad for a time when Clinton was going around the world apologizing for America, much as 0bama is doing now.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 3:01:50 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: avacado
As a Texan and an American, I find those Austin liberals supporting democracy for Iran offensive! Where were they for the past 6 years of the Iraq War?

kinda sad, isn't it

37 posted on 06/18/2009 3:02:05 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
Now would be a really good time for Israel to consider an attack...

That's a heck of an idea...can you imagine how interestingly complex life would suddenly become if that happened???

Words do not serve....

Wow.

38 posted on 06/18/2009 3:02:11 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: lewisglad

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Moussavi is a pawn of the mullahs just like Ahmadinejihad. Any support I’d offer would be for the Iranians born after 1979. The rest can go to hell.


39 posted on 06/18/2009 3:05:14 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: counterpunch
looks like its was moved to Washington..


40 posted on 06/18/2009 3:05:45 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

I believe that is a replica.
There are a few.


41 posted on 06/18/2009 3:06:57 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: paulycy

When the protestors start storming gov’t military buildings I think it becomes anti regieme. They cant shoot 1,000,000 people even the police would refuse to do that


42 posted on 06/18/2009 3:07:54 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: Thunder90
What the US and NATO need to do is to tell the Islamic Republican Guards to either stay out of this or face military action against d other regime targets. Any mass action against protesters will be met with a swift response.

Times like these makes me wish someone else was POTUS right now...

43 posted on 06/18/2009 3:10:39 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: wiseprince

I noticed that their green looked just like the Hamas green when they show up for their funerals and rallies.


44 posted on 06/18/2009 3:12:25 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: HonestConservative

Obama has already lost on this issue, his inaction is very teling.


45 posted on 06/18/2009 3:15:59 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: avacado

I know what you mean. GWB would have gladly lent his voice to this uprising if it had occurred during his term and he even spoke of supporting any country crying for freedom. What do we get, a closet muslim fascist who won’t support free expression in Iran, or anywhere else. But he is the world’s choice and they can deal with the consequences.


46 posted on 06/18/2009 3:16:43 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: lewisglad

The question is, how do demonstrations in the streets transform into an overthrow of an entire oppressive dictatorial system?

Right now, they can only achieve what the Theocracy is willing it give them.
It would take an outright revolt of the various security apparatuses, which may be very difficult. Just as Hitler had the SA to keep the people in line, and the SS to keep the SA and regular army in line, the Ayatollahs have a similar structure with the Revolutionary Guard, also bearing some similarities to Saddam’s Elite Republican Guard.

So while the regular police and army may sympathize with the revolutionaries, as had been the case in the successful peaceful revolutions that brought down communism, it is far more unlikely that the fiercely loyal Revolutionary Guard is going to turn on the Ayatollahs. If so, how can true revolution ousting the Theocracy be obtained? And are these protesters ready, willing, and able to do what is needed?


47 posted on 06/18/2009 3:20:24 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: wiseprince

Whose puppet Moussavi is


48 posted on 06/18/2009 3:20:50 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Ulysse
Whose puppet Moussavi is

Maybe he's Vito Rizzuto.

49 posted on 06/18/2009 3:25:30 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: counterpunch
So while the regular police and army may sympathize with the revolutionaries, as had been the case in the successful peaceful revolutions that brought down communism, it is far more unlikely that the fiercely loyal Revolutionary Guard is going to turn on the Ayatollahs

If Tweets are to believed, the regime has brought in Arab Hezbollah thugs......if true, I hope this unites Iran like never before. Persians killing Persians is one thing, foreigners killing Persians is totally different.

50 posted on 06/18/2009 3:30:50 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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