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David Ignatius: This Is for Real
The Washington Post ^ | Friday, June 19, 2009

Posted on 06/18/2009 3:47:44 PM PDT by lewisglad

What's happening on the streets of Tehran is a lesson in what makes history: It isn't guns or secret police, in the end, but the willingness of hundreds of thousands of people to risk their lives to protest injustice. That is what overthrew the shah of Iran in 1979, and it is now shaking the mullahs.

This is politics in the raw -- unarmed people defying soldiers with guns -- and it is the stuff of which revolutions are made. Whether it will succeed in Iran is impossible to predict, but already this movement has put an overconfident regime on the ropes.

The regime must be frightened of the forces it has unleashed. The more it attacks its own people, the more vulnerable it becomes.

If you take a step back, you can see a similar process of ferment across the Muslim world these days. Muslim parties and their allies have suffered election setbacks over the past several years in Algeria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Morocco and Pakistan.

The most extreme group of all, al-Qaeda, has alienated former supporters everywhere it has tried to put down roots.

The reasons for these political setbacks vary from place to place. In some countries, Muslim radicals have overreached and created a public backlash; in others, they have been seen as timid and corrupt

The simple fact is that Iran's repressive rulers have overplayed their hand. By manipulating the election results, they have created a popular backlash. Iranians now are voting with their feet, and with their blood. The regime blames Western meddling; they should be so lucky. This is real

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: iran; mullahs; studentmovement

1 posted on 06/18/2009 3:47:44 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

If they succeed I am sure al-MSM will give the 0ne credit for his shrewd, brilliant and brave role. *spit*


2 posted on 06/18/2009 3:49:17 PM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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To: lewisglad

Too bad the people are unarmed. That’s another lesson to be taken from this


3 posted on 06/18/2009 3:50:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: eureka!

4 posted on 06/18/2009 3:50:57 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: paul51

5 posted on 06/18/2009 3:52:02 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Obama the Bum votes present.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 3:52:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: lewisglad

Weirdly, Biden was right


7 posted on 06/18/2009 3:52:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Obama was sound asleep at 3AM, Hilly was right about one thing...


8 posted on 06/18/2009 3:53:08 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Nice. May freedom ring there in due course.


9 posted on 06/18/2009 3:55:13 PM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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To: lewisglad

Computer enhanced?


10 posted on 06/18/2009 3:56:15 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: lewisglad
I am convinced that the reason Obama is not showing outward support for the Iranian demonstrators is because he would hate to have to show that same support to the Americans that are about to take to the streets in opposition to his destruction of America.
11 posted on 06/18/2009 3:58:06 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: lewisglad
Something beautiful about that photo.

I wonder when streets of Washington will look similar.

Lurking govt spies: I'm not advocating anything.

12 posted on 06/18/2009 4:01:14 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: lewisglad

“It isn’t guns or secret police, in the end, but the willingness of hundreds of thousands of people to risk their lives to protest injustice.”

Our turn to step up is coming.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 4:01:39 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: lewisglad

an interesting facet of this is how so far none of Khameini’s buddies like Hezbollah and Hamas and his other allies in the region have stepped up and done anything in his defense.

Presumably if the mullahs and the Pasdaran/IRGC are toppled, Hezbollah and Hamas are in deep you know what. Their funding and support dries up instantly. No more money and weapons coming fro mTehran. No more training in camps in Mashad and Lavistan. No more upkeep of the Abdullah barracks in Baalbek.

You’d think if the regime was really in trouble, it’d reach out to its friends, ask them to stir things up, help them out. Will Hezbollah and Hamas really sit by and do nothing while their patron is removed?

Also, perhaps this is an opprtunity for the US to make hay on Al Qaeda. Supposed Iran knows or has custody of a number of AQ leaders including Bin Laden’s son, his top startegist Saif al-Adel, and others. I bet someone in the Pasdaran probably knows where the big man himself is. They’re vulnerable.

If Obama was smart he;d tell the mullahs that he’d help them out and help to cool things down and keep them in power in exchange for them giving up the AQ info and leaders. Then, once the deed is done, and we have what we need, he simply tells them “guess what fellas, I lied. you guys are finished. thanks for helping us out with AQ, though”.


14 posted on 06/18/2009 4:02:51 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: paul51

Imagine 1 million armed Americans on the streets of DC.


15 posted on 06/18/2009 4:03:22 PM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Beyond the barricade
Is there a world you long to see?
Courfeyrac:
Then join in the fight
That will give you the right to be free!

ALL
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

Will you give all you can give
So that our banner may advance
Some will fall and some will live
Will you stand up and take your chance?
The blood of the martyrs
Will water the meadows of France!

ALL
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs


16 posted on 06/18/2009 4:04:32 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
This is politics in the raw -- unarmed people defying soldiers with guns -- and it is the stuff of which revolutions are made.

Only in America can we ignore the American Revolution.

17 posted on 06/18/2009 4:05:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: lewisglad

The test of whether this goes anywhere is whether the army would take an order to fire on citizens.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 4:08:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: lewisglad
When I was a child I had a needlework sampler with the words "The pen is mightier than the sword".

Always loved that sentiment.

19 posted on 06/18/2009 4:29:32 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Sir Gawain
"Imagine 1 million armed Americans on the streets of DC."

Imagine the Bonus Army.

Read Unintended Consequences.

20 posted on 06/18/2009 4:36:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Sir Gawain
Imagine 1 million armed Americans on the streets of DC.

Reported by the MSM as 150 clingers

21 posted on 06/18/2009 4:36:53 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: lewisglad

God bless these people in their quest for freedom. I relish the day when fed-up Americans take to the streets too!


22 posted on 06/18/2009 4:40:03 PM PDT by cblue55
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To: Churchillspirit; lewisglad
"The pen is mightier than the sword".

Only when the sword is very short and the pen is very sharp. :-)

24 posted on 06/18/2009 4:47:52 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: jeltz25
"Will Hezbollah and Hamas really sit by and do nothing while their patron is removed?"

They're not - they're the ones out there beating on the people.

25 posted on 06/18/2009 4:48:10 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: editor-surveyor

“...Imagine the Bonus Army...”
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The 1932 march of the “Bonus Army” was suppressed by U.S. Army troops under the leadership of Douglas MacArthur and George S. Patton.


26 posted on 06/18/2009 4:59:02 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: lewisglad

The government-run media in Iran is now powerless to shape events. The same fate awaits the US government media.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 5:00:41 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: lewisglad

The pen may be mightier than the sword but when the conflict moves to the streets, I’d prefer a rifle


28 posted on 06/18/2009 5:11:58 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: lewisglad

It makes me sick that the POTUS won’t get behind this movement for freedom in Iran. An opportunity like this only comes once in a generation and he won’t even so much as praise them for their courage. 0bama, you are one pathetic, thumb-sucking, bedwetting little turd. Resign now.

As bad as Biden is, I somehow believe, were he the POTUS, he’d at least give them a verbal pat on the back. 0bama is truly and unequivocally hopeless.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 5:21:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: lewisglad

Ya know, we need to start the drumbeat amongst ourselves that this Iranian freedom movement is a direct result of President Bush’s efforts in Iraq. He showed them the way, so to speak.

It would drive the Bush-haters completely insane.


30 posted on 06/18/2009 5:27:25 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: paul51

In the streets I might prefer a pump shotgun. A rifle is for long range work.


31 posted on 06/18/2009 5:38:52 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: RipSawyer

with a rifle I have close or long options. With a shotgun, my range is limited. If I had to choose one, it’s the rifle. Either is better than a pen


32 posted on 06/18/2009 5:45:00 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: lewisglad

Tell me that woman doesn’t have Five O’Clock shadow!


33 posted on 06/18/2009 7:08:58 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: USMA '71

True dat. Was thinking the same exact thing.


34 posted on 06/18/2009 7:22:21 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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