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Khamenei tells Mousavi to toe the line over election or be cast out
Times UK ^ | June 19, 2009 | Ella Flaye in Tehran, Catherine Philp and Martin Fletcher

Posted on 06/18/2009 3:54:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The moderate Iranian leader who says that he was robbed of victory in last week’s presidential election faces a fateful choice today: support the regime or be cast out.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s Supreme Leader, has told Mir Hossein Mousavi to stand beside him as he uses Friday prayers at Tehran University to call for national unity. An army of Basiji — Islamic volunteer militiamen — is also expected to be bussed in to support the Supreme Leader.

The demand was made at a meeting this week with representatives of all three candidates who claim that the poll was rigged, and it puts Mr Mousavi on the spot. He has become the figurehead of a popular movement that is mounting huge demonstrations daily against the “theft” of last Friday’s election by President Ahmadinejad, the ayatollah’s protégé.

Mr Mousavi, 67, is a creature of the political Establishment — a former revolutionary and prime minister who would like to liberalise Iranian politics but has never challenged the system in the way his followers are doing. It was unclear last night what he would do or even whether the protests would die away if he backed down. Yesterday tens of thousands of demonstrators packed into the Imam Khomeini Square in Tehran — named after the founder of the Islamic Republic — for another massive rally, this one to mourn protesters killed in Monday’s clashes with pro-government militias.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranviolence2009; khamenei; mousavi; studentmovement

1 posted on 06/18/2009 3:54:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: G8 Diplomat; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; SolidWood

News ping


2 posted on 06/18/2009 3:55:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is why I don’t care about what’s going on in Iran: it doesn’t matter if Ahmadinejad or Mousavi wins, because the mullahs are still in control.

Let’s see some mullahs swinging from lampposts. That will be real revolution.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 3:56:39 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Khamenei tells Mousavi to toe the line over election or be cast out

Is the unrest in Iran right now really going to be quelled because Mousavi falls in line? Seems like a lot of Iranians are objecting to the ayatollahs, not the fact that Mousavi was robbed.
4 posted on 06/18/2009 3:57:09 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SolidWood; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat; Man50D; SunkenCiv

fyi


5 posted on 06/18/2009 3:59:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe Khamenei tells Mousavi that he won the vote, but he lost the election, so shut up!


6 posted on 06/18/2009 4:00:15 PM PDT by rawhide
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fyi

Could get bloody!

7 posted on 06/18/2009 4:00:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Democrats are taking notes for 2010...


8 posted on 06/18/2009 4:00:45 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Cast out?


9 posted on 06/18/2009 4:01:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m beginning to think this is the real deal -and that’s scary for the Iranians in the streets.

Godspeed to all those who fight for freedom..


10 posted on 06/18/2009 4:03:11 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe they’re thinking of exiling him to Paris. Of course, that didn’t work out so well 30 years ago...


11 posted on 06/18/2009 4:05:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe it was Michael Ledeen who said on an interview, that Mousavi has only two options left to him now,

Get enough people behind him to pull this off.....

or die.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 4:05:49 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Terpfen
This is why I don’t care about what’s going on in Iran: it doesn’t matter if Ahmadinejad or Mousavi wins, because the mullahs are still in control.

Yeah, but enough popular anger has been put into motion that it might end up challenging the mullah's control of the country.

13 posted on 06/18/2009 4:05:51 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: GeronL

Is it going to be like Surivor? “I’m sorry, Mir, the tribe has spoken”

Is it like the Garden of Eden? Will there be some angel with a flaming sword east of Tehran?


14 posted on 06/18/2009 4:05:53 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The people are telling Khamenei to tow the line or be cast out.


15 posted on 06/18/2009 4:06:17 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So the slaves are fighting over the scraps off the tyrants table instead of going after the tyrants themselves...

How every tyrant keeps themselves in power...


16 posted on 06/18/2009 4:09:58 PM PDT by DB
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To: dirtboy

I’ll believe it when I see it.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 4:12:43 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Looks like Khamenei wants to cool this down and Mousavi realizes that he's in the position of the man holding the tiger's ears -- whatever you do, don't let go.

Mousavi CAN'T make nice at this point. It's gone too far. There's too much bad blood regarding the Basijis. The pro-Ahmadinejad faction among the mullahs is scared.

If this quiets down, the rebel leadership will be quietly "disappeared" at leisure.

18 posted on 06/18/2009 4:18:51 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Terpfen

Me too, but that is the main hope for me. The young folks have got to be getting sick of the mullahs.


19 posted on 06/18/2009 4:19:21 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Is the unrest in Iran right now really going to be quelled because Mousavi falls in line? Seems like a lot of Iranians are objecting to the ayatollahs, not the fact that Mousavi was robbed.

The mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard run Iran for their own profit. They don't want to give up the sweet deal they have. But the people are getting fed up over being poor so that the ruling elite can stay rich, and it's past the boiling point -- something for us to study, with the way DC has been pissing away our wealth and future.

20 posted on 06/18/2009 4:22:35 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: All
Access to The Twitter news... @ iranelection :

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http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection

Need eyes watching the Tweeter network..@iranelection

21 posted on 06/18/2009 4:29:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One young male demonstrator yelled at the camera - ‘WE WANT A SECULAR GOVERNMENT!’


22 posted on 06/18/2009 4:31:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
FIGHT IT, Iranians. Keep standing up.

This is NOT about Mousavi or the election.

This is about so much more.

23 posted on 06/18/2009 4:32:28 PM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: SE Mom

Right—election results like that insult the intelligence. It would have been like Bush carrying EVERY precinct by a 2 to 1 margin in 2004. Every thinking Persian knows its NOW—or NEVER looking yourself in the mirror for letting these klutzes get away with it.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 4:32:55 PM PDT by qwertyz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WARNING TO ALL US Inspector Generals........Obama is taking notes here. You guys need to toe the line or you will be cast out.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 4:35:19 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Fred Nerks
Multiple messages ....

hospital source - severe shortage of blood supplies accross ALL Iran hospitals

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hospital source - severe shortage of blood supplies accross ALL Iran hospitals - pls donate blood - #Iranelection - RT RT RT

half a minute ago from web

Nazanin

26 posted on 06/18/2009 4:41:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; M. Espinola; Travis McGee

Supporters of Reformer Mousavi Stage a Final Protest in Tehran

Unless somebody feels obliged to take out corrupt Mullahs. Here in America we are in a similar position. Obama quietly builds his totalitarian government and readies his FEMA prison camps. Already he has ABC news on board with talking heads all lined up in the White House.

Talking heads like True Believer Georgie Stepalloverus will toe the line without pause for Obama.

Images Joseph Goebbels and Treblinka echo in my mind. Any doubts now about what is about to happen to your fundamental right of free speech _________ ? It will be shattered into a million pieces and cast to the winds. Just like ashes.

27 posted on 06/18/2009 4:42:12 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: All
Tweet message yields this:

The Herald's street eye view of the protests in Tehran

And this:

Guardian news blog....

28 posted on 06/18/2009 4:46:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mousavi's facebook:Mr.Mousavi & Mr.Karoubi ask supporters NOT to attend Friday prayers (which is being delivered by supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei) (posted 52 minutes ago)
29 posted on 06/18/2009 4:46:57 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

There are also messages saying that is a bogus message...so I am not sure....


30 posted on 06/18/2009 4:50:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: PapaBear3625
DO NOT BELIEVE NO FRIDAY PRAYER REPORTS

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DO NOT BELIEVE NO FRIDAY PRAYER REPORTS. THEY ARE LIES MOUSAVI WOULDN'T CUT HIS OWN THROAT #IRANELECTION #gr88

10 minutes ago from web

Awesome Persian Dude

31 posted on 06/18/2009 4:52:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Khamenei tells Mousavi to toe the line over election or be cast out

Be cool, or be cast out...

32 posted on 06/18/2009 4:52:48 PM PDT by Professional Engineer ("A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin. Sorry Dr. Franklin)
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To: PapaBear3625
And this:

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Unless you SEE Mousavi say don't go, presume this is hack attempt on his facebook page.

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RT: @oxfordgirl: Unless you SEE Mousavi say don't go, presume this is hack attempt on his facebook page. Go to rally FRiday. #iranelection

1 minute ago from web

C.K.

33 posted on 06/18/2009 4:56:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's on his facebook, and PersianKiwi also has it as "CONFIRMED - MOUSAVI & KAROUBI ask supporters NOT to attend Friday prayers inTehran"

PersianKiwi also has Sea of Green will continue on Friday - time and location will be confirmed 1 hour before

From all this I'm guessing that the rebels will do their rally elsewhere from Khamenei's address, to show rejection of Khamenei's authority. Mousavi and the rebels know they will be "disappeared" if this quiets down. Like Julius Caesar, Mousavi has crossed the Rubicon, and knows it's now win or die.

34 posted on 06/18/2009 5:00:23 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625
And:

Serious confusion over rally

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Serious confusion over rally: 1 trst source says no go (from Moussavi site) other trst source say go, Moussavi site hacked. #iranelection

1 minute ago from web

Thea Mann

35 posted on 06/18/2009 5:00:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: PapaBear3625

Real example of cyberwarfare.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 5:01:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For the reasons I posted in #34, I’m thinking these messages are disinformation from pro-government sources. The only reason to show up at a Khamenei-controlled venue is to make nice with Khamenei, and it’s too late for that. I think it’s Khamenei’s side trying to disrupt the rebellion.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 5:04:20 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Terpfen

“Let’s see some mullahs swinging from lampposts. That will be real revolution.”

That may come. I believe these protesters want something more than a cosmetic change at the near-top.


38 posted on 06/18/2009 5:11:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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or be cast out? Wow, exiled from Iran... dang, that would JUST TERRIBLE.

;’)


39 posted on 06/18/2009 5:41:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow...he just told Musavi to shut it. Khamenei’s digging his own grave...this will only upset people more. They’re sick of the mullahs telling everyone what to do.


40 posted on 06/18/2009 5:52:17 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: PapaBear3625
Got a thread:

Iranian opposition launches organized cyber attack against pro-Ahmadinejad sites

41 posted on 06/18/2009 6:06:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SolidWood; Army Air Corps; AdmSmith; Valin

FYI - there’s no rally planned for tomorrow. I suspect Khamenei will make a statement tomorrow telling people to stay home and wait for election recount results. And then threaten people with arrest if they try to gather.
Mousavi may be told to tell people to stay home now.

We’ll see what happens....


42 posted on 06/18/2009 6:49:18 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Khamenei tells Mousavi to toe the line over election or be cast out


43 posted on 06/18/2009 7:00:03 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Notice the current president of Iran seems to be saying nothing but letting the old man dictate policy. Grant you, Mad Dog just returned from Russia. But it does appear more and more this is a fight between the clergy and elements within the upper clergy as well as the politicians.
It is a shame the people of Iran are not killing off as many of the brown shirts as they can. They could always make correct claim to the Mullahs as having sent foreigners against the citizens of Iran. Which one could assume perhaps correctly would really piss off a lot of the more conservative Iranians who adhere to rule under the clergy and Shia Islam at large. A few dozen extra million pissed off Iranians could really get things going for a total civil war or a peaceful exit of the mullahs and Mad Dog's gang.
Time for a military coup I am afraid. But one where a democracy bound by a re-written constitution excluding any power of Islam over the people comes about.
A note. This whole affair could screw up the gains made in Iraq. If we start to see a lot of Iranians fleeing to Iraq it could be bad.
44 posted on 06/18/2009 7:12:44 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iranian protestors should DUMP Musavi and run out the entire gang out of town. Musavi has nothing to offer. He should go away just like the rest of the gang.


45 posted on 06/18/2009 9:42:00 PM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: ex-Texan; george76; Thunder90
Imagine what Iranians languishing under the fanatical Shia-Islamic dictatorship feel who want to topple the Islamic régime, but knowing the muzzie cohort in the White House actually supports maintaining Rat Boy's dictatorship. Absolutely sickening!


46 posted on 06/22/2009 7:35:39 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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