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(Arab) Leaders Worried By The Rise of People Power In Iran
UK Guardian ^ | Thursday 18 June 2009 22.08 BST | Rory McCarthy in Jerusalem, Martin Chulov in Baghdad, Hugh Macleod in Beirut and Ian Black

Posted on 06/18/2009 4:09:07 PM PDT by lewisglad

Arab states are watching intently as Iran's political convulsions continue, seeking clues to how the unfolding crisis will affect the strategic picture in the Middle East, especially the key issue of the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions.

In a region where democratic politics are the exception, there is nervousness about the implications of people power on the streets of Tehran. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is deeply unpopular – but mass protests worry all autocrats.

Recently emerging from their own political upheavals, savvy Lebanese see much of themselves in the people politics unfolding in Tehran.

"It reminds me of our protests," said Haitham Chamas, an activist who helped organise protests in 2005 that brought a million Lebanese on to the streets calling for democratic reforms and the fall of the government.

Just as in Tehran, that opposition was swiftly answered by a huge rally in ­support of the incumbent regime, organised then by Hezbollah, which is allied with Iran and Syria.

Chamas and friends have spent the last week talking of little else but what the historic events unfolding in Iran could mean for Lebanon, where Iranian financing of Hezbollah has divided opinion like never before. The western-backed government, known as March 14, recently beat Hezbollah and its allies in undisputed elections.

"I think if Mousavi's supporters stay on the streets for a week the regime will fall and that will seriously affect Hezbollah," said Chamas.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabworld; iran; middleeast

1 posted on 06/18/2009 4:09:07 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

As well they should be...


2 posted on 06/18/2009 4:10:42 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: lewisglad
TO: THE PEOPLE OF IRAN....THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA SUPPORT YOU! YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION TO THE WORLD!!!!!
3 posted on 06/18/2009 4:11:19 PM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: shalom aleichem

4 posted on 06/18/2009 4:11:35 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: NordP

5 posted on 06/18/2009 4:14:01 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
Is that an authentic photo from Iran ?? Especially the quote from Braveheart ??

I hope it is because it captures a spirit that will eventually triumph.

6 posted on 06/18/2009 4:14:50 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: lewisglad

And from the Whine House?

[the sound of crickets]


7 posted on 06/18/2009 4:15:17 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 150 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: mick

Lebanese babes are HOT.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 4:16:45 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mick
3 year ago in Lebanon...


9 posted on 06/18/2009 4:17:44 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: tet68

Iranian babes are hot too, under all that stuff.

Free the puppies!


10 posted on 06/18/2009 4:17:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

11 posted on 06/18/2009 4:19:30 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

My yes.
And what do we get from our fearless leader?
Bupkis.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 4:21:27 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lewisglad

So does this mean that 0bama is an Arab leader?


13 posted on 06/18/2009 4:21:54 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: tet68

Where is hope and change when you need it??


14 posted on 06/18/2009 4:23:09 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
but mass protests worry all autocrats.
So this is why 0bama is worried...
 
15 posted on 06/18/2009 4:23:49 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: lewisglad

I have said it before and I will say it again. There are some really beautiful women in that part of the world. That if nothing else is grounds for a free democratic society!


16 posted on 06/18/2009 4:24:32 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: mick

That picture was from the protests in Lebanon back in 2005.


17 posted on 06/18/2009 4:24:44 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: mick
From Lebanon.

Don't you remember those...er...um...ah...red-and-white-political-buttons?

18 posted on 06/18/2009 4:26:28 PM PDT by Does so (Rename the GOP to "Stop-The-Obama-Party"....(or, "STOP" for short)...)
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To: counterpunch

19 posted on 06/18/2009 4:27:42 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: counterpunch

Yeah. OTOH, no one will stand up for his czar-y azz when it’s his turn...


20 posted on 06/18/2009 4:27:43 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 150 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: lewisglad

Bush’s fault.


21 posted on 06/18/2009 4:29:39 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: lewisglad

Looks to me like the young people in Iran are getting fed up with the Yaba daba Doos running their country and their lives. To keep young people under wraps you have to keep them stupid. If they get educated and have excess to the outside (inter-net) they find out how the rest of the world lives they will revolt when they realized they are being lied to.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 4:30:11 PM PDT by kempo
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To: NordP

even though our Pres is a wussy p****y.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: kalee; lewisglad
Roger that.

Yrs ago I knew some Iranian officers and their families when the Shah was in charge. Very fine people and strongly pro American. It would be a tragedy if we or Israel ended up in a military conflict with Iran. I pray these brave folks can overthrow the Mullahs in time.

24 posted on 06/18/2009 4:32:53 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: USAFJeeper

25 posted on 06/18/2009 4:34:34 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: kempo

26 posted on 06/18/2009 4:36:00 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
The Lebanese election was huge. To destabilize Hezbollah is to weaken the mullahs in Iran, that effort against Israel having cost Iran far in excess of any obvious return. Exporting revolution can be an economy-breaking process as Cuba and the Soviet Union can attest, and as Huey Chavez will soon learn.

Now this. The point of the entire sham Iranian electoral system is to ensure the mullahs a new front man every so often and unbroken control. Given Mousavi's history that might have been the case this time around (and it's an even bet whether it will turn out that way even now). But that's an awful lot of people in the street to ignore in the hope that the whole thing will return to the way it was before.

Should this seriously weaken the mullahs the credit will no doubt be given to 0bama by a fawning press but in fact it should be given to a fellow named Bush, because Iraq is sitting there in quiet solidity at the moment and that's not the way the mullahs wanted that to turn out either. Interesting times.

27 posted on 06/18/2009 4:36:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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28 posted on 06/18/2009 4:50:26 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: lewisglad
YOU GO GIRLS!!!

Oh..I'm soooooo proud of you all!!!!!

Sons and Daughters of LIBERTY!!!

29 posted on 06/18/2009 4:58:05 PM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: Tamar1973

X 100


30 posted on 06/18/2009 4:59:59 PM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: mick

Oh no.. no way is that pic from Iran. Women don’t get to dress like that!


31 posted on 06/18/2009 5:03:30 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: lewisglad

People of Iran, we hope and pray for your freedom. Your time is now! Go for it! I only wish we had a president who had the moral courage to support your efforts!


32 posted on 06/18/2009 5:08:06 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: ScottinVA

Yes they do, from what I’ve seen.

In Iran, Turkey, and some other places. I admit I was surprised to see woman so free to show their hair in Iran.


33 posted on 06/18/2009 5:15:27 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: mick

No way. Must be from Lebanon.

Iran is a Mullocracy. Women must be covered up including all hair.


34 posted on 06/18/2009 5:23:09 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

Would this be a good time for Iraq to invade Iran?

*looking entirely too innocent*


35 posted on 06/18/2009 5:30:14 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 150 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: lewisglad

If they’re worried it means it’s time to fall back on the time-tested approach of using Israel as scapegoat for all their ills, round up some of the last remaining members of their country’s once thriving Jewish society, accuse them as Israeli spies, have Al-Jazeera televise their foaming-at-the-mouth barbarian citizenry in full Jihadist mode across the vast barren wasteland that is the circa 7th Century Arab, Muslim World, mete out life sentences to all and soon have their illiterate, pre-historic society back in hibernation for another decade or so.


36 posted on 06/18/2009 5:38:49 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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"It reminds me of our protests," said Haitham Chamas, an activist who helped organise protests in 2005 that brought a million Lebanese on to the streets calling for democratic reforms and the fall of the government. Just as in Tehran, that opposition was swiftly answered by a huge rally in support of the incumbent regime, organised then by Hezbollah, which is allied with Iran and Syria. Chamas and friends have spent the last week talking of little else but what the historic events unfolding in Iran could mean for Lebanon, where Iranian financing of Hezbollah has divided opinion like never before. The western-backed government, known as March 14, recently beat Hezbollah and its allies in undisputed elections. "I think if Mousavi's supporters stay on the streets for a week the regime will fall and that will seriously affect Hezbollah," said Chamas.

37 posted on 06/18/2009 7:23:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: kempo
If they get educated and have excess to the outside (inter-net) they find out how the rest of the world lives they will revolt when they realized they are being lied to.

I remember an anaylsis at the time of the fall of the Soviet Union speculating that the satellite dish at Moscow University was more important than SDI in bringing down the regime.

38 posted on 06/19/2009 1:00:36 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: lewisglad

I don’t think it’ll take just one week. Might take a serious, drag out fight.


39 posted on 06/19/2009 1:51:26 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: kempo

It was university students who first put Khomeini in power. Our university students, apparently, have plenty of acredited courses specifically designed to keep them stupid. A-jad at Colombia U. comes to mind as an example. When he said the question of whether or not to destroy Israel should be put to a Palestinian vote, the cretins actually applauded him.


40 posted on 06/19/2009 1:56:16 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Eleutheria5

I think the internet is more powerful than any class room.


41 posted on 06/22/2009 8:13:31 PM PDT by kempo
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