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Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case
Associated Press ^ | June 18, 2009 | STEVE KARNOWSKI

Posted on 06/18/2009 8:36:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

MINNEAPOLIS – A replay of the nation's only file-sharing case to go to trial has ended with the same result — a Minnesota woman was found to have violated music copyrights and must pay huge damages to the recording industry.

A federal jury ruled Thursday that Jammie Thomas-Rasset willfully violated the copyrights on 24 songs, and awarded recording companies $1.92 million, or $80,000 per song.

Thomas-Rasset's second trial actually turned out worse for her. When a different federal jury heard her case in 2007, it hit Thomas-Rasset with a $222,000 judgment.

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KEYWORDS: 8thamendment; excessivefines; lping; riaa
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21 posted on 06/18/2009 9:52:42 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: OneWingedShark

She was caught sharing songs, i.e. offering them, not downloading them.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 10:17:34 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Ken H

That’s why here in Colorado they impose fines on homeless people with no income and then sentence them to jail for about 10 dollars per day until the fine is paid. Around here sometimes people go to jail for an unpaid fine for jaywalking!


23 posted on 06/18/2009 10:46:16 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: LuxMaker

The security bureaucracy industry is one of the few growth centers in the new new American economy.

Every year more laws are passed making what was once liberty, illegal. Also what was once a single crime, baloney sliced up into multiple crimes.

All this provides work for Cops, clerks, legal secretary’s, District Attorney’s and staffs, court officers, Defense attorneys, copy repair men, office supplies, jailers, counselors, judges.

All this ‘economic’ activity filters down to the community thought donut shops, bars, car repairs, prison construction.

Frankly, there is no limit on the ‘wealth’ that with more laws and more arrests can be generated.

/sarc


24 posted on 06/18/2009 11:30:15 PM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: KoRn

Well I think this ruling is outrageous it is like you kid going to the store and shop lifting! They don’t through the parents in jail or fine them $25,000! The kid goes to juvenile detention center! No wonder nobody buys CD’s anymore and most of them have copy protection on them!!!!! I don’t buy them haven’t bought any in years!


25 posted on 06/18/2009 11:46:10 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Ken H
...nor excessive fines imposed... Amendment VIII

This is not a fine, but a civil award.

26 posted on 06/19/2009 2:56:43 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: tallyhoe
"I don’t buy them haven’t bought any in years!"

I haven't either.

27 posted on 06/19/2009 4:18:11 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn
Nearly 2 million dollars for 24 songs on your home PC?
Wasn't exactly '24'. She had 1,700 songs on her pc. They just sued over 24.

And 1,700 songs isn't exactly 'for personal use'. She was guilty as hell.

28 posted on 06/19/2009 5:11:18 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: iowamark

Well then, that makes the claim that much more outrageous if the DID have the media legally beforehand.


29 posted on 06/19/2009 7:36:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Always Right
This is not a fine, but a civil award.

Good point.

30 posted on 06/19/2009 8:09:51 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: tallyhoe
Well I think this ruling is outrageous it is like you kid going to the store and shop lifting! They don’t through the parents in jail or fine them $25,000!

Except it was $80,000 each!

31 posted on 06/19/2009 8:16:59 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Condor51
And 1,700 songs isn't exactly 'for personal use'. She was guilty as hell.

Lots of people have iPods with a heck of a lot more songs than that on them.

32 posted on 06/19/2009 8:20:22 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Ken H
Good point.

Unfortunately, most civil suits don't have such outrageous criteria. Lots of civil cases might have extra awards of 3 times damages or something. For some reason the music industry has special protection and is about to get thousands times any provable damage. So much for equal protection under the law.

33 posted on 06/19/2009 8:22:35 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

i WONDER . . .

did that jury realize they had wholesale authority to rule as they saw fit?

What’s that technically called?


34 posted on 06/19/2009 8:33:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I believe that you’re thinking of the term “nullification”.


35 posted on 06/19/2009 9:57:08 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Thanks.

I don’t really recall.

I just understand . . . or think I understand! LOL

that essentially, Juries in our system . . . have more or less overwhelming carte blanche to decide a case and the consequences thereof

but that they are snookered to believe otherwise

????


36 posted on 06/19/2009 10:01:54 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: KoRn
24 songs was a misprint from that article, it was 24 different publishers., 1700+ songs.
37 posted on 06/19/2009 10:05:16 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Ah! That makes more sense.


38 posted on 06/19/2009 10:13:26 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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