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New Ruger in Hand(Massad Ayoob)
backwoodshome ^ | 11 June, 2009 | Massad Ayoob

Posted on 06/19/2009 4:30:52 AM PDT by marktwain

A few entries ago, you were promised that as soon as we got our hands on the latest new Ruger rifle, you’d hear back. Well, we muckled onto three or so of ‘em this past week, so here we go. As noted here earlier, the rifle is designated SR556, for Sturm, Ruger 5.56 millimeter. It takes standard AR15/M16 magazines, and comes with three of them, produced by Magpul, one of the best makers.

It’s the most “vendor-outsourced” firearm this company has ever assembled – really, pretty much everything but the barrel and barrel extension come from outside the factory – but it’s an AR15 clone, after all, and that’s the logical way to make one given the nature of the industry.

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Ruger’s switchover to “lean manufacturing” has changed the look of the factory dramatically in the last few years. SR556s were literally flowing off the production line.

But, enough of that: how does it SHOOT? The subtle feel of the mechanism as it cycles is different from your usual Stoner-type AR15, because the Ruger entry works of a piston design, specifically a proprietary two-piece piston. One of my fellow shooters said, “It feels like a whoosh, not a sproing.” That about describes it, even if it ain’t engineer terminology. My buddy Russ Lary threw a 6.5-20X variable power Leupold Tactical scope onto his T&E SR556, and cranked it all the way up. Twenty power magnification ain’t much for sophisticated bench rest shooters, but for us meat n’ potatoes riflemen, think “Hubble telescope with crosshairs.” At about 100 yards, he found sub-one-inch groups easy, with Match grade 69 grain and 77 grain loads from Black Hills Ammunition shooting the tightest.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ayoob; banglist; rifle; ruger
Interesting rifle. I wonder if Ruger will get it out in time to catch some of the current bubble.
1 posted on 06/19/2009 4:30:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
SR556s were literally flowing off the production line.

This seems to suggest they will.

2 posted on 06/19/2009 4:39:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain
"I’m told by folks I trust at Ruger that this thing has gone 20,000 rounds without a malfunction OR a cleaning in factory torture-testing."

WOW!!!! You would NOT be able to do this with your traditional AR15/M16 type rifle! The rifle also has great accuracy right out of the box. Of course accuracy is expected of AR type rifles. I have yet to see one that wasn't accurate.

3 posted on 06/19/2009 4:44:27 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

aarg! the bastards wasted 20k rounds!

:)


4 posted on 06/19/2009 4:47:13 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: marktwain

I preferr the Mini-14. Like AK-47 has loose rattling parts when shook, but all that space allows for dust, sand and dirt so the weapon can keep firing without jamming. Only complaint is the barrel is too thin, and it tends to get soft if you use high capacity mags and shoot 30 plus rounds rapidly. Screws up the long range accuracy. Later versions of the Mini-14 have thicker barrels and eliminated the soft barrel problem as many rounds are shot thru at rapid rate.


5 posted on 06/19/2009 4:50:13 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: marktwain

pant pant pant

Can I get one in 7.62 or 7mm-08?


6 posted on 06/19/2009 4:51:22 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: MrB
"aarg! the bastards wasted 20k rounds!"

Yeah that hurt! Couldn't they have done a computer simulation, and used the rifle in Call of Duty on the PS3 or something? lol

7 posted on 06/19/2009 4:54:22 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: marktwain
Twenty power magnification ain’t much for sophisticated bench rest shooters, but for us meat n’ potatoes riflemen, think “Hubble telescope with crosshairs.”

Funny

8 posted on 06/19/2009 4:56:04 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: wastedyears

Yep, I chuckled at that one, too. Ayoob comes up with a good one, every now and then. On the main, though, I’ve found him to be quite ‘readable’ for many years.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 4:58:51 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: taxcontrol

Yeah, it’s called the AR-10.


10 posted on 06/19/2009 5:03:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: taxcontrol

Or 6.5 Grendel?


11 posted on 06/19/2009 5:03:11 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Fee

Um, that wasn’t the only problem with the Mini-14. There were *many* other issues corrected in the recent “580” redesign:

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/featured_rifles/rugranch_071807/index1.html

“Soft barrel” was the least of the problems.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 5:05:05 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: taxcontrol

How about a Beowulf upper?


13 posted on 06/19/2009 5:05:22 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: KoRn

Would’ve been better off testing it in SOCOM.

Call of Duty is sub-par to me.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 5:06:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: KoRn

Guess you never had the misfortune to shoot a Hesse AR, then.

All this is is a commodity AR clone with one of the new gas piston systems on it. They’re becoming quite common in the aftermarket and have appeared in makers’ catalogs for several years now.


15 posted on 06/19/2009 5:07:19 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

16 posted on 06/19/2009 5:09:21 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: shooter223

But, the most important question: Does it come with a pink stock?


17 posted on 06/19/2009 5:11:42 AM PDT by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: Fee

Mini-14’s are the Glocks of the rifle world. They can fire every time under every condition. My problem is I have never known of one first hand that could hit anything.

I asked a new owner if his Mini was accurate and he replied he was able to hit what he was aiming at. I noticed his target was a tree stump at 30 yards away.

I don’t consider a rifle that can’t hit at 200 yards anyway as reliable. If you can’t hit, you’re wasting your time.


18 posted on 06/19/2009 5:11:54 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Mrs. P

Or can it cook breakfast?


19 posted on 06/19/2009 5:14:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Um, no, they're not the Glocks of the rifle world. Glocks are at least reasonably accurate, and the Mini-14 prior to the 580=series revamp isn't.

This, on the other hand, is.

Not as accurate as the M-14/M1A or the AR, but demonstrably able to hit and take down a man at 600 meters. Can be made more accurate through application of modern tech and gear. Like Glocks, magazines are everywhere and cheap. And they still make them, some right here in the USA. .308/7.62 NATO, for those that don't know.

And I just bought one. :D

20 posted on 06/19/2009 5:15:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Sounds like the Mini-14 is finally what it should have been all along. Well done Ruger!


21 posted on 06/19/2009 5:20:11 AM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

Yeah, it only took them, what, forty years and one huge sellout of all gun owners to do it!


22 posted on 06/19/2009 5:21:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I was commenting on the fact they fire every time.


23 posted on 06/19/2009 5:24:24 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Thanks, but I’ll keep my trust in the M-1 Garand. It too will fire every time, in all conditions AND what you hit, stays dead. Just ask anyone who has ever fired one, combat or range.


24 posted on 06/19/2009 5:27:06 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I classify the Mini-14 a carbine. It will hit a dog size target at 100 yards. Definitely not a sniper qualtiy carbine. Especially if you use high capacity mags. Barrel tends to heat up and flex.


25 posted on 06/19/2009 5:27:11 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Just FYI, here is a USA-made unit complete with all the modernizations - Picatinny rail on top, Magpul PRS stock, freefloat handguards over a 21" bull barrel, etc, etc. It's not mine, but it's an example of what you can get these days:

I'm going to model my 'new' FAL after that guy's FAL - most of those accessories are bolt on. :D

26 posted on 06/19/2009 5:27:17 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
It would help if I could successfully add the picture. :P


27 posted on 06/19/2009 5:28:11 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NTHockey

One problem - BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGclackPIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!


28 posted on 06/19/2009 5:29:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Fee

The barrel whips under rapid fire of even 5 and 10 round mags. High-caps have little or nothing to do with it.


29 posted on 06/19/2009 5:30:20 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

How long until they issue a recall as they did with the LCP and SR9?


30 posted on 06/19/2009 5:35:15 AM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: Spktyr

The Free World’s Right Arm, as it has been called. I sure do like mine. It’s an Austrian StG 58 built on a DSA receiver.

Learn to use that sling. My last Appleseed taught me a whole new perspective on loop slings and hasty slings.


31 posted on 06/19/2009 5:37:12 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Noumenon

That’s not my rifle. I’m just starting to build up my L1A1 variant and right now it doesn’t have a sling mounted.


32 posted on 06/19/2009 5:39:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NTHockey

Now and then there comes along Mi’s and 1911’s and
BMG’s that are hard to replace.
barbra ann


33 posted on 06/19/2009 5:47:07 AM PDT by barb-tex (He will simply soak the filthy rich and help the common man.)
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To: barb-tex

Wait till I tell my wife I “need” another rifle!


34 posted on 06/19/2009 5:55:36 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: NTHockey

Now and then there comes along Mi’s and 1911’s and
BMG’s that are hard to replace.
barbra ann


35 posted on 06/19/2009 5:56:45 AM PDT by barb-tex (He will simply soak the filthy rich and help the common man.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
After 24 years and only about 2k rounds, mine will now shoot MOA. Out of the box, it started out at 2" @100yrds. I knew right off to never heat it up and not to abuse the bore with excessive scrub'n. The break in period took about six years & 1k rounds. I now have confidence that it will always put a round behind the ear of a pig @200yrd if I use a good rest. Beyond that, the energy drops. As a result of the energy drop, we now have a three legged ‘yote running around the ranch that I knocked down @325 yrds but he didn't want to stay down.

I do note that my M1A tends to make them stay down.

36 posted on 06/19/2009 6:22:20 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (I spent all my money on women & booze, the other rest I just plain blew.)
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To: shooter223

Damn! The price is an issue!


37 posted on 06/19/2009 6:27:48 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: Spktyr

You’ll want that sling. Just a simple canvas one with a quick-detach front. the reason for which you will discover if you haven’t already.


38 posted on 06/19/2009 10:00:48 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Spktyr

Hard to beat a FNFAL! I used to have one, and I loved it.

I recently purchased a PTR91. It too seems to be a great battle rifle. It was awesome to see a brand new pristine HK91 type rifle, with all new American made parts. I almost hated to shoot it, until after I fired the first round. :p


39 posted on 06/19/2009 11:06:18 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: marktwain

I want one bad, but not bad enough to spend $1995 for it when I can get a nice colt post ban police carbine for about a grand that has plenty of good features.


40 posted on 06/19/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: wastedyears

You should see him in person - hysterical. Constant deadpan flow between amazingly insightful commentary and ROTFLOL jokes & colorful descriptions.


41 posted on 06/19/2009 12:26:49 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Fee
"Later versions of the Mini-14 have thicker barrels ..."

How "late" is later? Mine are from the 2001-2002 years.

42 posted on 06/19/2009 1:53:03 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: NTHockey

You just have to remember to maintain it. There’s a reason the service manual is over 300 pages.


43 posted on 06/19/2009 3:19:40 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Spktyr

That is so nice. I have one and after having it refinished in grey it looks brand new. I just don’t have a good enough reason to drag it out of the toybox enough.


44 posted on 06/19/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: marktwain

Love the gas piston design.

Had a Mini 14. Thing would shoot anything and go bang every time. Couldn’t hit a basket ball at 50 yards with it though.


45 posted on 06/19/2009 3:22:54 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Fee

Exactly. It’s too bad the barrel doesn’t warp so you can track a running coyote without changing the sights. I think my barrel always drooped downward.

Maybe I should have suicidal targets that get closer as I shoot?


46 posted on 06/19/2009 3:24:57 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: redgolum

Some of that inaccuracy was the fault of the owners. A new owner would swap out the wooden stock for something really cool looking and not realize the screws on the gas block could only be tightened to 14 INCH pounds. Not Foot pounds. The barrel would get sqeezed and goodby simply bad accuracy to something truly horrible.


47 posted on 06/19/2009 3:28:28 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Brucifer

*Bang ping*


48 posted on 06/19/2009 3:29:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Never checked that. It was a “stock” stock, but didn’t check the screws.

Sold it for a wedding ring, and then bought an AR!~


49 posted on 06/19/2009 3:30:04 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Spktyr

>>One problem - BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGclackPIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!<<

No problem - eight dead bad guys i what — 10 seconds. Reload in 10; eight more bad guys; repeat until there are no more bad guys.

Clean her up; run a couple of patches through the barrel; a light coat of oil; a couple of more patches. Time for a beer. Wait for a new batch of bad guys who want to die.


50 posted on 06/20/2009 7:32:51 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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