Skip to comments.New Ruger in Hand(Massad Ayoob)
Posted on 06/19/2009 4:30:52 AM PDT by marktwain
A few entries ago, you were promised that as soon as we got our hands on the latest new Ruger rifle, youd hear back. Well, we muckled onto three or so of em this past week, so here we go. As noted here earlier, the rifle is designated SR556, for Sturm, Ruger 5.56 millimeter. It takes standard AR15/M16 magazines, and comes with three of them, produced by Magpul, one of the best makers.
Its the most vendor-outsourced firearm this company has ever assembled really, pretty much everything but the barrel and barrel extension come from outside the factory but its an AR15 clone, after all, and thats the logical way to make one given the nature of the industry.
Rugers switchover to lean manufacturing has changed the look of the factory dramatically in the last few years. SR556s were literally flowing off the production line.
But, enough of that: how does it SHOOT? The subtle feel of the mechanism as it cycles is different from your usual Stoner-type AR15, because the Ruger entry works of a piston design, specifically a proprietary two-piece piston. One of my fellow shooters said, It feels like a whoosh, not a sproing. That about describes it, even if it aint engineer terminology. My buddy Russ Lary threw a 6.5-20X variable power Leupold Tactical scope onto his T&E SR556, and cranked it all the way up. Twenty power magnification aint much for sophisticated bench rest shooters, but for us meat n potatoes riflemen, think Hubble telescope with crosshairs. At about 100 yards, he found sub-one-inch groups easy, with Match grade 69 grain and 77 grain loads from Black Hills Ammunition shooting the tightest.
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This seems to suggest they will.
WOW!!!! You would NOT be able to do this with your traditional AR15/M16 type rifle! The rifle also has great accuracy right out of the box. Of course accuracy is expected of AR type rifles. I have yet to see one that wasn't accurate.
aarg! the bastards wasted 20k rounds!
I preferr the Mini-14. Like AK-47 has loose rattling parts when shook, but all that space allows for dust, sand and dirt so the weapon can keep firing without jamming. Only complaint is the barrel is too thin, and it tends to get soft if you use high capacity mags and shoot 30 plus rounds rapidly. Screws up the long range accuracy. Later versions of the Mini-14 have thicker barrels and eliminated the soft barrel problem as many rounds are shot thru at rapid rate.
pant pant pant
Can I get one in 7.62 or 7mm-08?
Yeah that hurt! Couldn't they have done a computer simulation, and used the rifle in Call of Duty on the PS3 or something? lol
Yep, I chuckled at that one, too. Ayoob comes up with a good one, every now and then. On the main, though, I’ve found him to be quite ‘readable’ for many years.
Yeah, it’s called the AR-10.
Or 6.5 Grendel?
Um, that wasn’t the only problem with the Mini-14. There were *many* other issues corrected in the recent “580” redesign:
“Soft barrel” was the least of the problems.
How about a Beowulf upper?
Would’ve been better off testing it in SOCOM.
Call of Duty is sub-par to me.
Guess you never had the misfortune to shoot a Hesse AR, then.
All this is is a commodity AR clone with one of the new gas piston systems on it. They’re becoming quite common in the aftermarket and have appeared in makers’ catalogs for several years now.
But, the most important question: Does it come with a pink stock?
Mini-14’s are the Glocks of the rifle world. They can fire every time under every condition. My problem is I have never known of one first hand that could hit anything.
I asked a new owner if his Mini was accurate and he replied he was able to hit what he was aiming at. I noticed his target was a tree stump at 30 yards away.
I don’t consider a rifle that can’t hit at 200 yards anyway as reliable. If you can’t hit, you’re wasting your time.
Or can it cook breakfast?
This, on the other hand, is.
Not as accurate as the M-14/M1A or the AR, but demonstrably able to hit and take down a man at 600 meters. Can be made more accurate through application of modern tech and gear. Like Glocks, magazines are everywhere and cheap. And they still make them, some right here in the USA. .308/7.62 NATO, for those that don't know.
And I just bought one. :D
Sounds like the Mini-14 is finally what it should have been all along. Well done Ruger!
Yeah, it only took them, what, forty years and one huge sellout of all gun owners to do it!
I was commenting on the fact they fire every time.
Thanks, but I’ll keep my trust in the M-1 Garand. It too will fire every time, in all conditions AND what you hit, stays dead. Just ask anyone who has ever fired one, combat or range.
I classify the Mini-14 a carbine. It will hit a dog size target at 100 yards. Definitely not a sniper qualtiy carbine. Especially if you use high capacity mags. Barrel tends to heat up and flex.
I'm going to model my 'new' FAL after that guy's FAL - most of those accessories are bolt on. :D
One problem - BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGclackPIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!
The barrel whips under rapid fire of even 5 and 10 round mags. High-caps have little or nothing to do with it.
How long until they issue a recall as they did with the LCP and SR9?
The Free World’s Right Arm, as it has been called. I sure do like mine. It’s an Austrian StG 58 built on a DSA receiver.
Learn to use that sling. My last Appleseed taught me a whole new perspective on loop slings and hasty slings.
That’s not my rifle. I’m just starting to build up my L1A1 variant and right now it doesn’t have a sling mounted.
Now and then there comes along Mi’s and 1911’s and
BMG’s that are hard to replace.
Wait till I tell my wife I “need” another rifle!
Now and then there comes along Mi’s and 1911’s and
BMG’s that are hard to replace.
I do note that my M1A tends to make them stay down.
Damn! The price is an issue!
You’ll want that sling. Just a simple canvas one with a quick-detach front. the reason for which you will discover if you haven’t already.
Hard to beat a FNFAL! I used to have one, and I loved it.
I recently purchased a PTR91. It too seems to be a great battle rifle. It was awesome to see a brand new pristine HK91 type rifle, with all new American made parts. I almost hated to shoot it, until after I fired the first round. :p
I want one bad, but not bad enough to spend $1995 for it when I can get a nice colt post ban police carbine for about a grand that has plenty of good features.
You should see him in person - hysterical. Constant deadpan flow between amazingly insightful commentary and ROTFLOL jokes & colorful descriptions.
How "late" is later? Mine are from the 2001-2002 years.
You just have to remember to maintain it. There’s a reason the service manual is over 300 pages.
That is so nice. I have one and after having it refinished in grey it looks brand new. I just don’t have a good enough reason to drag it out of the toybox enough.
Love the gas piston design.
Had a Mini 14. Thing would shoot anything and go bang every time. Couldn’t hit a basket ball at 50 yards with it though.
Exactly. It’s too bad the barrel doesn’t warp so you can track a running coyote without changing the sights. I think my barrel always drooped downward.
Maybe I should have suicidal targets that get closer as I shoot?
Some of that inaccuracy was the fault of the owners. A new owner would swap out the wooden stock for something really cool looking and not realize the screws on the gas block could only be tightened to 14 INCH pounds. Not Foot pounds. The barrel would get sqeezed and goodby simply bad accuracy to something truly horrible.
Never checked that. It was a “stock” stock, but didn’t check the screws.
Sold it for a wedding ring, and then bought an AR!~
>>One problem - BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGclackPIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!<<
No problem - eight dead bad guys i what — 10 seconds. Reload in 10; eight more bad guys; repeat until there are no more bad guys.
Clean her up; run a couple of patches through the barrel; a light coat of oil; a couple of more patches. Time for a beer. Wait for a new batch of bad guys who want to die.