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Woman illegally downloads 24 songs, fined to tune of $1.9 million (RIAA "pleased")
CNN ^ | 6/19/2009 | Elianne Friend

Posted on 06/19/2009 5:28:53 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each -- a total of $1.9 million -- for 24 songs.

Jammie Thomas-Rasset's case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said.

Attorney Joe Sibley said that his client was shocked at fine, noting that the price tag on the songs she downloaded was 99 cents.

She plans to appeal, he said.

Cara Duckworth, a spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said the RIIA was "pleased that the jury agreed with the evidence and found the defendant liable."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: riaa; thomasrasset

1 posted on 06/19/2009 5:28:53 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

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2 posted on 06/19/2009 5:30:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Sorry. Mods can delete.


3 posted on 06/19/2009 5:30:46 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There are high school kids who have downloaded thousands of songs and they get fined $0.


4 posted on 06/19/2009 5:31:01 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Unusual punishment.”


5 posted on 06/19/2009 5:31:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Another example of corporate companies that gouge people in prices but when joe public does something slight against them, its a wall of lawyers.

CD’s and dvds cost so much to buy and so little to make and the artist gets so little from it, i find it hard to feel sorry for corporate music companies.


6 posted on 06/19/2009 5:32:27 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Red in Blue PA

WTF?!!


7 posted on 06/19/2009 5:33:02 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: Pearls Before Swine

ask for a bailout and 2 have government control record industry


8 posted on 06/19/2009 5:33:07 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Insanity!


9 posted on 06/19/2009 5:37:13 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

She should be fined (and pay costs). But the fines should not be thousands of times the cost the stolen items.


10 posted on 06/19/2009 5:38:42 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Red in Blue PA

She must not have made enough contributions to Obama’s election...


11 posted on 06/19/2009 5:40:15 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all!!!)
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To: sunmars

How do corporations gouge you in prices? Have the put a gun to you head and forced you to buy their stuff?

If a company charges “too much” for something, do you think you should be allowed to steal it?

Do you think that 99 cents is too much money to ask for a song someone wants to listen to?

Do you think that if you write a song, someone else should be allowed to take that song, and put it up for distribution to others on the internet so that you don’t get paid for it?

About the only thing I agree with on these threads is that $1.9 million is too much to be fined.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 5:42:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red in Blue PA
Did you catch that link at the bottom of the CNN story?
"French face tough new Internet downloading law"
They'll cut off your internet service - Ooooooo! ("Tough" for a Frenchman, I guess - everything's relative)

Anyhow, this is so absolutely ridiculous. I am ALL for prosecuting illegal downloads, but this kind of fine is PERsecuting. I'm sure that the Pleased-as-Punch RIAA is thinking, "Yeah, it's a sad story and a harsh fine, but we have to make an example of someone." Hell, why not cut off her hands?

13 posted on 06/19/2009 5:48:35 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Better not have been a William Hung song.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 5:51:02 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Geeze...I had better stop shoplifting CD’s from record stores because at $80K a song...and the typical CD has 15-20 songs....
15 posted on 06/19/2009 5:51:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t download music (legally or illegally)so I don’t know how it works but I’m curious as to what evidence a record company would have to produce that the song was,in fact,downloaded (that is,was actually saved to the hard drive) and how do they prove that it was not,in fact,paid for?


16 posted on 06/19/2009 5:55:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: vladimir998
“There are high school kids who have downloaded thousands of songs and they get fined $0.”

Counting the jerk who stole my cell phone and downloaded $193 worth of songs before I was able to get the account suspended. I get stuck with the bill and the bother of getting the bill charges dropped, and this punk is walking around Scot free laughing about how he got away with something.

17 posted on 06/19/2009 5:57:37 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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18 posted on 06/19/2009 5:58:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I would further want to know how they prove WHO was the person doing the downloading. Just because someone owns a computer, it is possible there are other users.


19 posted on 06/19/2009 6:07:12 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Nevermore

The thing is, if you allow it to proceed to trail, anything can happen, there are no sure outcomes in trial. The way the prosecution normally fights most of these copyright cases is that they offer to settle for $X,000. What happens is that the accused goes to find a lawyer only to find out that the ones licensed to practice in Federal courts, usually want $7-10,000 just for the retainer, so most of them settle as low as the petitioner will accept; and most of the settlements include a clause which can default to the highest award possible under the law.

Fact is, the petitioner would rather settle them like this because it’s sure money, just like it’s better for the accused because anything can happen in a trial, as this poor woman has just learned. Sad part is, she probably won’t win on appeal either.


20 posted on 06/19/2009 6:24:16 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: ShadowAce
Hi Shadow -- could you ping my original post of this please? The original is up around 115 comments from last night and still active. Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2274872/posts

21 posted on 06/19/2009 6:32:54 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
And they wonder why we look suspiciously at our judicial system.
22 posted on 06/19/2009 6:34:12 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Do you think that if you write a song, someone else should be allowed to take that song, and put it up for distribution to others on the internet so that you don’t get paid for it?

During the first 14 years after it's published (the original statutory term of copyright), that sort of behavior should be illegal.

After that it should be public domain time.

23 posted on 06/19/2009 7:24:47 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Chains you can believe in...)
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To: Red in Blue PA
it won't survive first contact with Obama’s new Federal Courts which have empathy (or servers in Europe, where pro-music piracy activists are winning court cases and seats in Parliaments)
24 posted on 06/19/2009 8:10:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red in Blue PA
The RIAA has been eagerly awaiting this decision. Now they can resume filing John Doe suits against college kids and extorting their savings as a settlement to avoid going to trial. This business model had been dropped last year on grounds that it was bad publicity at a time when Hollywood's control of the justice system was not yet complete.

Today, bad publicity is no longer an issue.

25 posted on 06/19/2009 10:08:12 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Red in Blue PA

They’d have to throw my ass in prison. So help me, I’d withdraw every nickel and throw it to a bunch of random nameless charities before RIAA would see a dime from me.


26 posted on 06/19/2009 5:42:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: agere_contra

You can buy the songs on iTunes for a buck each. Make her pay 10 times that and call it good. It is a total travesty that the government is this far in bed with the entertainment industry.


27 posted on 06/19/2009 5:44:09 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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