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Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
Washington Post ^ | 6/20/2009 | Krissah Thompson

Posted on 06/19/2009 6:19:13 AM PDT by mikelets456

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Sorry, but this is ridiculous. How many times does there need to be an apology. Why don't the Muslims apologize for killing 90% of the slaves they took on. Don't people realize the Muslims started black slavery? Don't the Blacks realize the white Christian male died to fight for them...wasn't that enough? Also, blacks had black slaves...how will that work? This is total BS!
1 posted on 06/19/2009 6:19:13 AM PDT by mikelets456
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Now when does Rome apologize for the gladitorial games and all that lion-feeding they did with Christians?


2 posted on 06/19/2009 6:20:16 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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An apology??? hmmmm, are we being set up for more $$$$$ donations to the minority community ?


3 posted on 06/19/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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Oh, I guess they would be better off in Africa and were not brought to this great land. Read the story of “Joseph” in Genesis....did he cry when he was sold into slavery and ended up being second in command in Egypt? He could have complained and got no where....but he did not and became second in command. Get the point?


4 posted on 06/19/2009 6:22:19 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Blue Turtle

Yep! Money is the end game, count on it!

And, I agree that all “debts” were paid, by the Civil War, still the bloodiest tragedy ever to befall this great country.


5 posted on 06/19/2009 6:23:27 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mikelets456

Democrats still practice the ancient tradition of father’s sin becomes the son’s sin


6 posted on 06/19/2009 6:24:36 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: mikelets456
Already happening. Reparations = Stimulus + Health Care. IMO
7 posted on 06/19/2009 6:25:02 AM PDT by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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If the Democrats pass any legislation giving cash reparations to blacks as payment for slavery that will result in the immediate death of the Democratic Party.


8 posted on 06/19/2009 6:25:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mikelets456

This is a set up for reparations. Maybe we should do it to finally to shut off the debate give each former slave $1,000,000,000.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 6:25:20 AM PDT by Comanche
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To: mikelets456

Yet another trillion welfare/alimonious fraud or some slave commune of which this congress critter belongs to.

TJust as they blame their parents for not aborting them, they are blaming the liberators.


10 posted on 06/19/2009 6:26:36 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Blue Turtle

Absolutely- reparations have been talked about for years.

What about the 618,000 American soldiers (Union and Confed) who died in that little tiff (battle death, disease, etc) called the Civil War? Wasn’t that fought mostly over the slavery issue?

Does that count for nothing?

Apologies over slavery were not an issue because of the obvious violence of the war. 360,000 Union soldiers died in the struggle to free those slaves. An apology seems redundant when one considers that...


11 posted on 06/19/2009 6:27:14 AM PDT by Clarence (back to lurking now...)
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Joseph understoood that it was God’s will that he would be sold into slavery by his brothers. He carried no grudge against his brothers, for it was God’s plan that Joseph would rise to power in Eygpt after years of slavery and prison.

This plan will never work. Because when you expect something from others, your worth is lower than you think.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 6:27:23 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: mikelets456
The Racist History of the Democratic Party
13 posted on 06/19/2009 6:28:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Comanche

A proper slavery reparation would be to arm every citizen with a howitzer targetting DC.

Now that would be real repair and not some of the bull crap you hear everyday.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 6:28:54 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: mikelets456

Populism = mobocracy. We need to repeal the 17th Amend.


15 posted on 06/19/2009 6:29:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: mikelets456

Harkin needs to pay attention to the water bill that Russ Feingold is trying to force thru Congress instead of worrying about slavery.

Iowa will be a dust bowl if Feingold gets this passes. Iowa’s farmers won’t be happy if Harkin does NOT fight this bill==S 787.


16 posted on 06/19/2009 6:34:16 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: mikelets456

I always get a laugh out of the whole “your ancestors benefited from slavery and Jim Crow” talking point... even though my parents did not move to the USA (from Africa) until 1972.


17 posted on 06/19/2009 6:34:45 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Comanche

Maybe we should do it to finally to shut off the debate give each former slave $1,000,000,000.”

Do you expect to issue Zimbabwe dollars for this payment?


18 posted on 06/19/2009 6:35:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Non-Sequitur

“If the Democrats pass any legislation giving cash reparations to blacks as payment for slavery that will result in the immediate death of the Democratic Party.”

For that reason and that reason only, I wish they WOULD push for it. The backlash would be beautiful!


19 posted on 06/19/2009 6:37:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Comanche

I remember watching a sci-fi show of a parrallel world of former slavemaster children’s become slaves to the former slaves’s children. They have to repay the damage their parents did to former slaves parents. This goes on for many generations


20 posted on 06/19/2009 6:38:56 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: mikelets456

There is still slavery in the Sudan. Black on black slavery. If these black people really cared about the issue of slavery they would want to end what is going on in the Sudan. Apparently an apology to them is worth more than the enslavement of fellow black people.


21 posted on 06/19/2009 6:39:42 AM PDT by rick11
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To: Blue Turtle

An apology??? hmmmm, are we being set up for more $$$$$ donations to the minority community ?

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I hope so. They need the money to pay me for invading Portugal years ago.


22 posted on 06/19/2009 6:39:53 AM PDT by Radl (sai)
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To: mikelets456

To be blunt, if the black community ever wants to achieve true equality, then a very big first step would be to stop portraying themselves as victims.


23 posted on 06/19/2009 6:41:04 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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What most never seem to understand about slavery, is that the vast majority of slaves throughout history were captives of conflicts. If there had been no financial incentive to keep them, they would of just been slaughtered, which is what happens today in places like Rwanda.

Personally, if I was on the losing end of a war and had the option of living as a slave or being executed on the spot, I'd have chosen life. I understand that some, possibly many would choose death, but is it really more humane to outlaw slavery than to remove the hope of the defeated to at least continue to live, even as slaves?

24 posted on 06/19/2009 6:43:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Harkin will be signing copies of his new autobiography, “Wings Over Hanoi.”
25 posted on 06/19/2009 6:49:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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No surprise that Harkin, the Vietnam fighter Pilot Liar, is in the middle of this farce.


26 posted on 06/19/2009 6:52:47 AM PDT by mortal19440
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You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago,

Because back in 1861 we apologized for it at a cost of more lives lost than all other wars fought by this country before or since. Hows that for an apology Senator Harkin?

27 posted on 06/19/2009 6:53:44 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Non-Sequitur

If the Democrats pass any legislation giving cash reparations to blacks as payment for slavery that will result in the immediate death of the Democratic Party.


Don’t be so sure about that. The same thing could have once been said for Gay Marriage or any manner of idiocy. The fact is that once these loony ideas have been around for sufficiently long, they tend to get adopted. They better watch it on this issue though.


28 posted on 06/19/2009 6:56:56 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: ridesthemiles
Maybe we should do it to finally to shut off the debate give each former slave $1,000,000,000.”

I'd be all for that, every 150 year old ex slave line up at the White House and have Barry write them out a check.

29 posted on 06/19/2009 6:57:18 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: mikelets456
I have never owned a slave. Nor would I want to.

I have nothing to apologize for.

31 posted on 06/19/2009 6:59:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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Good grief. This crap will never end.


32 posted on 06/19/2009 7:03:04 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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An apology??? hmmmm, are we being set up for more $$$$$ donations to the minority community ?

Yup. It'll make the billions of dollars that ACORN has stolen look like chump change.
33 posted on 06/19/2009 7:04:12 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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The apology would have been more historically accurate if it had mentioned the role of the Democratic Party in supporting and enforcing both slavery and segregation.

Send the reparations bill to the DNC.


34 posted on 06/19/2009 7:05:24 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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“Democrats still practice the ancient tradition of father’s sin becomes the son’s sin”

Not exactly. You see, the Democrats were the party that supported both slavery and Jim Crow.


35 posted on 06/19/2009 7:06:54 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: 4rcane

Actually...the Constitution prevents Congress passing crimes through bloodlines.

Of course, now that we have a wise Latina woman on the Court I can see reparations being upheld 5-4.


36 posted on 06/19/2009 7:07:38 AM PDT by kjo
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My ancestors fought to free the slaves. I’m holding out for a ‘thank you’ from the slaves descendants...

Frankly, I think the only apology needed was given during the Civil War.


37 posted on 06/19/2009 7:09:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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So descendants of those who fought and died fighting for the Union have to apologize for slavery?

So the majority of the country descended from immigrants who came here after the Civil War have to apologize for something they nor their ancestors had a part of?

The current Dems are total buffoons...of course we all here know that.

38 posted on 06/19/2009 7:12:51 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Comanche
Maybe we should do it to finally to shut off the debate give each former slave $1,000,000,000.

We're all becoming slaves to the government. The productive part of society, that is.
40 posted on 06/19/2009 7:16:37 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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Do you expect to issue Zimbabwe dollars for this payment?

Speaking of that, my daughter just returned from Zimbabwe and brought a bunch of trillion and billion dollar bills back. So, we're set for life. I quit my job and am going to buy my own private island.
41 posted on 06/19/2009 7:18:45 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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“....My ancestors fought to free the slaves. I’m holding out for a ‘thank you’ from the slaves descendants...”

Exactly!!! Hundreds of thousands of White males gave their lives for these “slaves”.....your welcome!

The apology tour continues and it ain’t about principal it’s only about MONEY!


42 posted on 06/19/2009 7:19:19 AM PDT by mikelets456
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Apparently an apology to them is worth more than the enslavement of fellow black people.

Most of them couldn't care less about an apology. They just want the Benjamins.
43 posted on 06/19/2009 7:19:54 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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I did a bit of searching and found some interesting info that you probably will not see on the Communist News Network.



In order to win over the majority of the public, Lincoln, at his inaugural address in 1861, vowed not to interfere with the institution of slavery. Contrary to present belief, the general public in the North approved of this attitude. However, at the same time, Lincoln set forth an idea to purchase all 4 million slaves (at a cost of between one-half billion to 2 billion dollars) and also to colonize them abroad. Such an economically unreasonable suggestion was unnecessary as events paved the way for true emancipation without financial compensation.
http://www.rain.org/~karpeles/EmancipationPr.html

Some more, (there was a LOT of info out there)

Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!
http://www.rulen.com/myths/



And there is a concise explanation of the true nature of the war here.
44 posted on 06/19/2009 7:30:37 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Did Senator Byrd apologize for being a Kleagle in the KKK and opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Seems to me the Democrat Party should be the one’s apologizing, since they not only fought to keep slavery but fought to keep segregation as well.


45 posted on 06/19/2009 7:31:26 AM PDT by stratman1969 (IMPEACH OBAMA for putting terrorist security ahead of American security)
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To: domenad
"Now when does Rome apologize for the gladitorial games and all that lion-feeding they did with Christians?"

The Roman Empire was built and maintained on the backs of slaves.

Not only was it largely Muslims capturing and selling the Africans to white slave traders back in the day, some Islamic countries condone slavery today.

Where's the righteous indignation over that fact?

It was as British colonies that slavery was established on the U.S. continent. It was widely recognized as a blight in need of addressing at the time the colonies struck out as an independent nation, but was seen by many who were far wiser than any liberal in government today as a problem that needed to wait until the nation was at least on it's feet as an actual entity before addressing completely overhauling it's economic infrastructure.

And as an aside, as slavery goes in history, those in the American colonies and the first decades of the United States did not have it so bad in terms of treatment. I know that's an affront to argue this to someone stuck subject to the whims of another human being who "owns" you, but since "relative" morality is in vogue today, it's worth keeping in mind.

And no black born in this nation alive today has ever personally experienced being owned by another human being, any more than I have.

Should Egyptian Muslims be allowed to sue for reparations for having their lives, culture and freedom stolen from them when Islam invaded, along with every other nation Muslims like to pretend were always dominated by that oppressive cult? Their claim would be at least as legitimate as African Americans'. Maybe more legitimate since they're still subject to a system that, through censorship, oppression and lies, keeps them virtual slaves to this day.

Maybe "moveon.org" will apply the same logic it used when it was founded to help get the nation to move on past the fact that we had a scum bag doing scummy things in the oval office, and say "come on, don't we have enough to deal with on today's problem?"

Or maybe Congress' time would be more nobly spent addressing the fact that the human flesh industry (slavery of all sorts, from labor to sex) is the single largest industry in our pseudo-enlightened, "Progressive" world today?

Nah, that makes too much sense.

46 posted on 06/19/2009 7:32:42 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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http://www.juneteenth.us/
Cheer up folks. It’s time to celebrate!
God Bless Texas!


47 posted on 06/19/2009 7:34:21 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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It will come to reparations no matter what the final bill says and when it does, I hope someone insists that in order to qualify, their lineage must be documented back to a slave. Also, once the amount to be awarded is determined, from that they subtract the cost of welfare, affirmative action, the Watts(, Detroit, Newark, et al) riots, gang violence, etc. When the final figure is tabulated, it should be adjusted for the economic conditions in Africa today that they would be living (possibly) under today had their ancesters been allowed to remain in Africa.


48 posted on 06/19/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by Free_SJersey (Liberty can promote equality- manditory equality will kill liberty. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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Carol M. Swain, a professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University who had pushed for the Bush administration to issue an apology, called the Democratic-controlled Senate's resolution "meaningless" since the party and federal government are led by a black president and black voters are closely aligned with the Democratic party.

"The Republican Party needed to do it," Swain said. "It would have shed that racist scab on the party."


A little Bing-ing reveals Carol M. Swain homepage and this little factoid:

Carol Swain is now a contributing political blogger for The Huffington Post.

So, before you go dropping a quarter million dollars on an education at Vanderbilt University, you might want to consider that they employ partisan dishonest politcal hacks as "PhD's". The Democrat party is the party with richest history of slavery, racism, and segregation in the USA.

Obviously a knowledge of true history is not a qualification for idiots like Carol M. Swain, "PhD", or Vanderbilt University.
49 posted on 06/19/2009 7:45:35 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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I guess the trillions stolen by Big Brother and redistributed as welfare don’t count.


50 posted on 06/19/2009 7:54:22 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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