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Before the Battle (Iranian Citizens Preparing to March to Their Deaths Tomorrow)
Atlantic Magazine ^ | 19 Jun 2009 04:34 pm | Andrew Sullivan & unnamed Iranian blogger

Posted on 06/19/2009 2:01:27 PM PDT by lewisglad

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1 posted on 06/19/2009 2:01:27 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

IT IS ABOUT F’ING TIME THE IRANIANS DO THIS. THE US ARMED FORCES ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF YOUR COUNTRY. YOU WILL HAVE NO BETTER FRIEND THAN A US MARINE. THEY ARE THERE. NOT FAR AWAY. THEY OWE THE MULLAHS.

ACT NOW.


2 posted on 06/19/2009 2:07:32 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: steveyp

The US will do nothing for them, the guys that “won” in November support religious totalitarianism.


3 posted on 06/19/2009 2:08:57 PM PDT by omega4179 (America is a Christian Nation.)
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To: lewisglad

The mullahs are going to clamp down tomorrow......so it do or die for the brave Iranians!


4 posted on 06/19/2009 2:08:57 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: steveyp

God these people are inspiring me! I don’t care why they do it, I want the mullahs to go and from many blogs I have read, there is no great love for A’jad’s opponent, the citizens are seizing this opportunity to rise up!


5 posted on 06/19/2009 2:09:07 PM PDT by austinaero ((More Bark, Less Wag))
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To: steveyp

Without orders from their CiC? You know “That One” will never issue such orders.


6 posted on 06/19/2009 2:09:40 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: steveyp

Shore nuff. Part of Bush’s plan was to surround Iran, the principal terrorist nation and then put the squeeze on them. I think he was counting on a right minded president to succeed him. With the guy who plays the president on tv, this situaion may be compromised or be much more difficult that intended. However, there are US forces on two of their borders.


7 posted on 06/19/2009 2:11:37 PM PDT by Texas resident (Texan by birth and by choice.)
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To: omega4179

agreed.

The coward Obama will do nothing for them.
They are on their own.
Of course, if they succeed, a BIG if, Obama will attempt to claim credit for it.
But at this point, succeeding may bring nothing but another effed up regime to deal with. I hope not.


8 posted on 06/19/2009 2:13:14 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: lewisglad

May the spirt of freedom burn in these brave people’s heart tomorrow. And may Gob be with them!

Maybe we can catch the spark as well.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 2:15:16 PM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: lewisglad
"If we must die, we die defending our rights."

Sitting Bull

Meanwhile in the US our government strips our freedoms daily and we riot because the Lakers won.

"Perhaps today is a good day to die."

My Iranian brothers know this - that if it comes to death you do so with honor and your names will be sung by the brotherhood of all who strive for freedom.

Semper Fi.

10 posted on 06/19/2009 2:17:50 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: lewisglad
Maybe we need to follow their example. If we don't act while we can still do it bloodlessly, we'll have to act when it'll get bloody.
11 posted on 06/19/2009 2:23:39 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: omega4179

I concur. But will the mullah’s go quietly? Will their proxies go quietly? Will their provocations be unanswered? I dunno w/Obama.

But the bloodlust in the US will go up if the proxies or Iran itself does something.

One way out for the mullah’s is to unite the country gainst the infidel invader whether he wears a 5 or 6 pointed star.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 2:25:55 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: mad_as_he$$
My Iranian brothers know this - that if it comes to death you do so with honor and your names will be sung by the brotherhood of all who strive for freedom.

Sure does make us look like a pack of wussies (in comparison) for tolerating what we are tolerating.

Semper Fi.

13 posted on 06/19/2009 2:26:02 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: stockpirate

Sorry, “May God be with them”

Had something in my eye.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 2:27:37 PM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: lewisglad

Too bad our joke of a president doesn’t have this kind of strength. Our dear leader is concerned though...


15 posted on 06/19/2009 2:29:14 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: lewisglad
This could turn out to be the defining moment of Obama’s presidency. Biden was right, and the test is now. A president can either rise to the occasion and stand for freedom, or retreat in disgrace.
Our enemies are paying close attention to Obama’s every move, searching for any signs of weakness.

The world is watching. The brave people of Iran are hoping and praying for support in their extreme hour of need.

16 posted on 06/19/2009 2:30:44 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: JoeFromSidney

“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force to preserve their freedom deserves the tyrant that rules them.” Stockpirate 2009


17 posted on 06/19/2009 2:31:55 PM PDT by stockpirate (The 2nd amendment protects all other rights as outlined in our constitution. Without it we fall.)
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To: steveyp

Sounds to me that the Ayatollah has given an ultimatum to the protesters to either stop the protests or there will be blood in the streets. This could get ugly real fast. The next 48 hours will be crucial


18 posted on 06/19/2009 2:32:25 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Deo volente

This guy spent eight years in the Illinois Senate voting “Present”.

What do you think he’s going to do?


19 posted on 06/19/2009 2:33:51 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lewisglad

Revolutions tend to be very bloody and very unpredictable. When you add the hysterical religious element it could go nuclear, (figuratively), very, very quickly.

And, you never know what you’ll see in the end.


20 posted on 06/19/2009 2:35:17 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: lewisglad
Incredible courage on display by people who want hope and change. Unfortunately, our CiC shares none of their desires and possesses none of their character. He won't even support them with his words. Obama is no friend of free people or people who wish to escape totalitarianism.

The events in Iran should be a game changer but the mindless automatons here ignore the world in favor of creating their nanny state utopia. We learn nothing.

21 posted on 06/19/2009 2:39:12 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: lewisglad

I pray blessings upon these brave young people!
Some of them are probably my spiritual relatives.


22 posted on 06/19/2009 2:41:07 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: Texas resident

Even though we may not help. Our presence in the region will prevent any outside forces from helping the mullahs oppress their people. If they start the killing, the people may very well finish it. We should put our troops on the borders to help the good refugees if necessary and to shoot the bad ones if we have the opportunity.


23 posted on 06/19/2009 2:41:29 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: steveyp

Hopefully Israel will take care of some business and get the Mullahs attention istead.


24 posted on 06/19/2009 2:44:43 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

The opposition is shouting Allahu Akbar from their roofs. It is not about freedom. They are and remain Muslims and Muslims often rise from abulia to mob frenzy. This is the same crowd that turned against America. These are still hugely bickering groups (bickering among themselves), with no plan, no clarity, except dissatisfaction for the status quo. These are not the Hungarians fighting Stalinism, East Germans hankering to pull down the wall. They are Muslims shouting Allah is Great. They are the frying pan to fire crowd. It is a Green Revolution - green as in the color of Islam. It might likely inspire similar green revolutions among the restive Islamic brotherhoods of the world. No bill of rights will issue from this, only chaos. The chaos of the Islamic ethos which will - should they be successful - lead to another totalitarian regime.

The US does well to stay out. No lover of democracy, or human rights would shout “Allah is Great” as a battle cry.

Their leader is no moderate. He is practically one of the inventors of Hezbollah.

Persians are political fanatics, imbued with rage and violence.


25 posted on 06/19/2009 2:47:16 PM PDT by Youaskedforit
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To: lewisglad

“By the way, two nights ago I went out to see a few things ... as the general crowds spread into their homes militia style Mousavi supporters were out on the streets ‘Basiji hunting’. Their resolve is no less than these thugs — they after hunting them down. They use their phones, their childhood friends, their intimate knowledge of their districts and neighbours to plan their attacks — they’re organised and they’re supported by their community so they have little fear. They create the havoc they’re after, ambush the thugs, use their Cocktail Molotovs, disperse and re-assemble elsewhere and then start again - and the door of every house is open to them as safe harbour — they’re community-connected.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2275414/posts


26 posted on 06/19/2009 2:47:19 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: lewisglad

Christian prayers for fellow human beings of the world who just want to live free.


27 posted on 06/19/2009 2:47:34 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Youaskedforit
This is the same crowd that turned against America.

No, it is not. Welcome to FR.

28 posted on 06/19/2009 2:50:33 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Truth is a Weapon
Coach K would never put up with the spoiled pro jocks.

There are supposed to be units made up from Arab-extremists (Hezbollah types) that are augmenting the Mullahs' security forces. I don't think that these Arab battalions are going to have any problem slaughtering Persians in pursuit of some hardline Islamic theology.

The wild-card may be the Iranian Army. Whichever side that they come down on will win. I'm sure that the Mullahs are busily reviewing the 'reliability' of units in the Tehran area.

29 posted on 06/19/2009 2:50:45 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: steveyp

You caps lock key is stuck.


30 posted on 06/19/2009 2:51:51 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Tallguy

Wow. Something stuck on my clipboard from another thread ... apologies for not reviewing the post.


31 posted on 06/19/2009 2:52:37 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: steveyp

You go guy. You sure do type a mean post!


32 posted on 06/19/2009 2:52:43 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: stockpirate
May the spirt of freedom burn in these brave people’s heart

EEEwww! A spirt? That's gross.

33 posted on 06/19/2009 2:53:11 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: steveyp
IF, and that's a big if, the US were to send two armored divisions across the Iraq/Iran border 4 hours before the protest is scheduled, this thing would be over in 2 days.

The IRG would head to the battle on the border while the "people" gathered up the despots in Tehran.

The Iranian army might not even leave the barracks.

34 posted on 06/19/2009 2:54:45 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: lewisglad
I wrote about this in my blog. It would be so wonderful to have a real stateman like Reagan, Kennedy or even Bush in office now to stand up and speak for freedom.

Instead we get these powerful words that surely will be quoted by Iranian children for decades from Obama:

And my hope is that the regime responds not with violence, but with recognition that the universal principles of peaceful expression and democracy are ones that should be affirmed.

This could have been Obama's "tear down this wall moment." But he feels more affinity for islamic dictators and thugs than the Iranian people yearning to be free.

35 posted on 06/19/2009 2:55:32 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Youaskedforit

I did not ask for it and I do not want any of it.

Gentle hint: Try to know at least a little about what you spew about. Saves embarrassment.


36 posted on 06/19/2009 2:56:08 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: sissyjane
Too bad our joke of a president doesn’t have this kind of strength.

Strength to do what?

Tie a green rag on your head and run around hollering?

What does that accomplish exactly? (Besides creating a neat photo op?)

Better they arm themselves and blow away the mullahs.

37 posted on 06/19/2009 2:56:16 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: stockpirate
And may Gob be with them!

All hail Gob!

38 posted on 06/19/2009 2:57:01 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

You’ve hit the mother lode here, I do believe!


39 posted on 06/19/2009 2:57:57 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: don-o

Gob bless you.


40 posted on 06/19/2009 2:58:51 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: lewisglad

41 posted on 06/19/2009 3:00:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: DuncanWaring
This guy spent eight years in the Illinois Senate voting “Present”.

Except, of course, when it came to the wanton slaughter of innocent children. Then he was all active for the cause.
42 posted on 06/19/2009 3:00:42 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Hail Obama! Kill da white peoples!)
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43 posted on 06/19/2009 3:01:42 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Kandy Atz

Obama’s popularity has nosedived with this crsis going on... maybe the American people will finally wake up


44 posted on 06/19/2009 3:03:20 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

WHile Iranians are bravely marching for their freedom that is the time to bomb the nuke plants... Bomb them already...strike while the wind is still swirling over the mullahs heads. Bomb the nukes and eff the UN and world reactions!


45 posted on 06/19/2009 3:04:03 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: lewisglad

Best of luck.


46 posted on 06/19/2009 3:04:15 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Mariner

Invasions have frequently had the opposite effect in that it has given license to the invaded country to crackdown on dissent. I don’t claim to know what would happen in the unlikely event that the US Army rolls, but I think that it is more likely to harden the Iranian response rather than weaken it.

Then your sitting there with a thin slice of Iranian territory an no “Plan B.” Iran is a pretty vast & rugged country.


47 posted on 06/19/2009 3:05:12 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: don-o

Hello don-o,

Are they not shouting God is Great from the rooftops, the same as when the protests were anti-Shah and anti-American? Is their leader not virulently anti-Israel, pro-nuclear, pro-Hezbollah?

My conclusion is that this is not really about democracy, but merely another instance of Islamic chaos.. which I’m more than happy to say is good for the world. Wonderful if the Iranians are too busy to further harm Israel and Lebanon. But I see no good coming from shouting Allahu-Akbar from the rooftops and the use of the color green.

It’s messy and confusing and I think it’s something that they should sort out entirely among themselves.


48 posted on 06/19/2009 3:07:01 PM PDT by Youaskedforit
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To: Youaskedforit

This is Top Secret, but I have intuited that you are trustworthy.

He a tool; as in wedge. Understand?


49 posted on 06/19/2009 3:15:40 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: Youaskedforit

If the street demonstrations were to really get out-of-hand, the Mullahs might lose political power. It would appear that Khameni has cut the cord with the loser of the election. If that individual were to benefit, and consolidate power, Khameni & his crew might be out.

I agree that this wouldn’t mean a ‘friendly’ Iran, but it certainly would be an improvement for the average Iranian — especially females.


50 posted on 06/19/2009 3:17:41 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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